Posted: 17 October 2005 at 7:03pm | IP Logged

Glen, thanks for what you said and its OK -  please don't worry about it.

We obviously don't agree on some things perhaps, and at times we can all 'lose it' in the heat of the moment.  I know I do sometimes and can be quite a pain in the ....  but when I do, I'm fortunate that people I know understand,  and its over as fast as its begun.

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Posted: 17 October 2005 at 7:07pm | IP Logged

Davidornado wrote: Hey, you're welcome! I heard the square ones get $50.00 each in Japan! Wow! Yeah, I was floored when I saw the stats on these studies. The other ongoing one is running at 98% still. CvC could end up better than polio (which still flares up if not vaccinated for in Africa). I'd rather see all like Small Pox. Globally eradicated, except for the BioWarfare stockpiles in certain countries, like your southern neighbor... and northern neighbor... hey, you're in the middle!!! Btw, it was one of the girls that found this article over in where' ya from. I thought the bashers would enjoy a new front. hehe.

Even if they stay in the low 90s for efficacy - it's almost a record. 

Polio - wow there's one place George W. could be flooding money into.  If he paid for all of africa's polio shots - and sent UN forces over to get it done the whole continent could be polio free in a generation! But - there's no oil thar!!

Smallpox - yeah.  Scares the bejeezus out of me.  I just know that some bozo is experimenting with it to make some interesting bugs for us.  Can anyone say "The Stand"?  Not that they need the smallpox - there was a contraversial article in a science journal that showed how a modestly talented scientist could modify monkeypox or chickenpox to become a version of smallpox.  I had to shake my head and look twice before I got that one and the impact of it.

It's a good topic for sure.  Who knows - as they delve deep into our troubles they might find that many problems of the mind are viral in origin.  We'll see.

Posted: 17 October 2005 at 7:17pm | IP Logged

It's all good.  I like that you feel strongly about this.  People in the middle are either kidding themselves - or us about their true feelings.  We all have deep feelings - but it takes guts to lay it out for others to see - and take apart.

I'm all for warning labels, and for informing people about the hazards (and benefits) of any given approach to this.  I even endorse people to check out things as varied as you mention like meditation and alternative medicine (though herbalists lost my trust when a herbal company poisoned thousands when they bought siberian ginseng from russian harvesters that couldn't tell a poisonous local root from the genuine article! I believe it was the silk vine plant - but can't find the original article as of yet - but will!)

Anyway don't get discouraged at what you do.  It's always valuable to get all aspects of anything.  It's only when fear tactics and hyperbole is used rather than empirical science that I get really really pissed off!!!!

Posted: 17 October 2005 at 7:48pm | IP Logged

Immune builders?  Sadly - the herbs claiming to hop up your immune system are being proven to be far less than effective during tests in the labs worldwide. 

There are lots of regular foods that keep our immune system working fine.  I try - but it's a hassle and sometimes I end up getting more protein and fiber than anything else.  But I try!

My immune system is working overtime - it's one of the only nice thing about having allergies to dust and environmental factors.  Studies have shown those of us with hay fever, pollen and dust allergies tend to get sick from viral infections less than the general population - and speculate that it's the T cells in the body going overboard to protect us from imagined threats due to the allergen sensitivity.  So I guess the sniffles aren't so bad!!

Posted: 17 October 2005 at 8:10pm | IP Logged

Garlic is ok - in small amounts.  I tend to sweat buckets at work - and that would include all the savories I eat during the day.  Not a good thing in an enclosed space let alone outdoors!

So - I go it mostly garlic free.  I don't take the pills - frankly my immune system is pretty good so I don't bother!

Every few years I get one of the lovely flus going around - but the last couple years I have taken my company up on their flu shot drives so I haven't gotten one yet (touch wood LOL).  So far so good!

Posted: 22 October 2005 at 4:36am | IP Logged

Lots use it well - others not so much.

It works on a different receptor group in the mind - so I think some who have plenty of one will be helped by the other.  Trial and error like most meds.

It's like anything reviewed.  People eat out - and the restaurant is lousy - they tell all.  Restaurant is good and they keep it to themselves.  I think it can be like that - we tend to be more likely to voice criticism than to voice compliments.  Sad but true.

Posted: 22 October 2005 at 6:25am | IP Logged

juliemom wrote: ANy positive reactions to Strattera?? It seems, for the most part all MED's get bashed, probably rightly so but is there any med that is well tolerated? We are trying strattera this weekend out of desparation.

As I mentioned earilier in this thread, my son is doing wonderfully on Strattera, has been for 2 years.  My son cannot handle a stim, but does very well on Strattera.  He is happier, sleeps better, gets straight A's, is more creative, better at sports, & handles social situations so much better on then off. 

Just to let you know, we gave him a month off meds this summer.  When we started up again, just like the very first time we started, my son slept through most of the first day.  After that it was smooth sailing.  Since it is a ramp med, you will see different (positive) changes in him each week.  For us, the 6th week the first time going on, & the 4th week were where he really clicked with it. 

I wish you the best.