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ummagumma Groupie

Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 51
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| Posted: 06 July 2006 at 9:46pm | IP Logged
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I don't think anybody's arguing that it won't work because it's not conventional. It won't work because the notion that you can somehow react to a substance by *holding a vial of it* is just plain ludicrous, and the "reaction" induced is nothing more than a parlor trick.
I don't understand why so many people are so closed-minded about conventional treatments, yet the moment some quack comes along and says the magic word ("natural"), they completely lose all sense of skepticism or critical thinking.
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Joined: 01 October 2003 Posts: 236
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| Posted: 06 July 2006 at 11:55pm | IP Logged
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I think I'll start promoting knee reflexes as a way to tell if you are allergic to something. I'll just use my little hammer and tap on a part of the knee cap that doesn't make your leg flex out. Then have them hold something I want them to be allergic to and tap in the right spot. Whella!!! I could make millions.
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flowercrafter Groupie

Joined: 20 October 2005 Location: United States Posts: 75
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| Posted: 16 July 2006 at 6:16am | IP Logged
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Maybe it's not that were not skeptical but that we so want to help our kids get better that we're willing to try it all. I think it's within reason to try alternative things. Hopefully, by being able to read so much on this message boards that at least some people will get results.
Lisa
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| Posted: 16 July 2006 at 10:23am | IP Logged
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flowercrafter wrote:
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Maybe it's not that were not skeptical but that we so want to help our kids get better that we're willing to try it all. I think it's within reason to try alternative things. Hopefully, by being able to read so much on this message boards that at least some people will get results.
Lisa
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Flowercrafter, I am all for finding alternative ways to treat our kids (in my case my niece) but you HAVE to research these things to weigh the pro's and con's. I just hate when people are so desperate they throw their money away on scams like this and in some cases some really dangerous things.
As posters I think we all need to be responsible and not suggest a "cure" or product that hasn't been proven by scientific study. Or at the very least doesn't cost a lot of money and can't harm anyone.
Again, I believe accupunture/pressure can work for pain and other things.
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flowercrafter Groupie

Joined: 20 October 2005 Location: United States Posts: 75
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| Posted: 25 July 2006 at 2:27pm | IP Logged
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The thing is, kinesiology could be disproved so easily by going to two different drs. and seeing if you get the same results. If I get an extra $100 to blow, I'll do it. Also, how do doctors stay in business for 10 years or more if they are faking it? Somebody is getting positive results. Do you think there are thousands of dr.s willing to take classes and compromise their career by scamming patients? I guess the proof is personal. I'll keep you posted if it works for me & then my son.
Lisa
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flowercrafter Groupie

Joined: 20 October 2005 Location: United States Posts: 75
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| Posted: 02 August 2006 at 4:02am | IP Logged
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I decided to take my son on Monday and we went through 70 vials of allergens. He shows he is allergic to about 15-20 of them. 2 things that stand out is corn & corn sugars and dairy. I was not shown to be allergic to these items. We have already eliminated most dairy and corn sugars are the one thing I've noticed he has a negative reaction to such as when drinking a soda. He also loves chips & popcorn. They save some of the foods we crave are what we are allergic to. After you are treated for a certain allergy you must avoid it for 25 hours. This doesn't make dairy or sugar good for you but have you noticed how some kids don't have any reaction whereas others do? I guess they just process it better thru their bodies.
I have now done accupuncture several times for my allergies. She does not do that on kids and only uses accupressure. It's a weird experience but not painful. Maybe a little twinge here & there. My rash is less frequent but still not cured. Don't get me wrong, I do have doubts myself that this is going to be a miracle cure but to me it is worth trying. I only wish I would have started earlier this summer. I put it off because of the expense & the driving time an hour away. The idea is great though that you don't have to live your life avoiding common foods. In a perfect world, I would cook from scratch every meal but how do you say "no" to every school treat, pizza party & bday parties?
Lisa
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flowercrafter Groupie

Joined: 20 October 2005 Location: United States Posts: 75
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| Posted: 15 August 2006 at 6:40am | IP Logged
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I wanted to add that if you look on www.amazon.com you can read the reviews of several NAET books. A few have had negative responses but quite a lot of positive results.
Lisa
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flowercrafter Groupie

Joined: 20 October 2005 Location: United States Posts: 75
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| Posted: 21 September 2006 at 9:59am | IP Logged
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I have now gone thru about 20 treatments and I've been Claritin-free for 3 weeks. One of the rashes I would get on my hands she told me was emotional. This is where it get really weird - almost like she has psychic abilities. She even pinpointed that it was worry about my youngest son (not my son with the ADHD problems). She gave me mental exercises to work on and the rash went away! I know that our emotions can affect us physically but I never experienced it that it was obvious. She gives my son mental exercises to work on too. We've worked on gratitude, self-confidence, letting go of anger, love, happiness. My son is at a good age (7) that he is still willing to cooperate with her and try this stuff out. I could see that it would be harder at an older age. Another thing he was treated for is parasites. She did it a second time yesterday. I've read about this in another ADHD book. I thought I could try the Para-B-Gone for Kids from the healthfood store but it has small capsules to take twice a day. He can't swallow pills and how many supplements can a kid take? I have the most difficult time with supplements - if it's not chewable and taste good, it's not going to work. Anyway, if you notice your child rolling around a lot at night or rubbing their nose or bottoms a lot, it's a good sign they have parasites. The dr. says he is allergic to different kinds of vegetables and once he is treated for these he should start liking some things. His diet is so poor of vegetables because he refuses it all. I'm looking forward to see if it really works.
I talked with his teacher and he is doing fine in the classroom. His art teacher says he is like a different child. Whatever his mom is doing must be something right. We still have difficulties at home like not cooperating, can't sit still in church, doing mean things to get us back because "we were mean to him" yet not being able to tell how we were mean to him. Again, I'm not prooving anything but we're not done with treatments yet either. Am I worried I'm spending a lot of money for nothing? I don't like spending the money but I'm seeing real results now and I'm going to continue to take him. If spending this money now saves us a lot of heartache & money later on, I'm all for it. Also, he did do homeopathic treatments for about 6 months but I didn't see anything that I could tell for sure that there was an improvement. It bothered me too that the appts. were 4-6 weeks apart and I couldn't stand sitting around waiting for something to happen. The one good thing was that it was covered under our insurance whereas these NAET treatments are not.
Lisa
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flowercrafter Groupie

Joined: 20 October 2005 Location: United States Posts: 75
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Wow, it's 3 years later and I have an update on NAET. I quit taking my son and I think he only got subtle results. Last summer, I went back to the homeopathy drs. and she asked to try going without dairy for two weeks. I saw no difference in behavior. Could it be because he was not allergic to begin with or that he was treated for it? I am now taking my 14 year old to a different NAET specialist because of stomach pains. Before I had her do NAET treatments, I took her to a nutritional specialist that also does a little muscle testing. In about 10 minutes of assessing her problems, he said she is allergic to wheat, corn & soy and to avoid them for the rest of your life. These were affecting her gallbladder and liver. What a difficult life that would be! I then took her to the NAET specialist (different to the one I went to) and she agreed that these things were affecting her gallbladder. After about 10 treatments because they have to be done in a certain order, she is pain-free. She was experiencing pain every night after dinner. We had no idea it could be these food items but after she knew and was trying to do without, everytime she ate wheat, her stomach hurt. I don't think she wanted to prove them right by doing this but she really noticed a difference. At one treatment, I told the dr that I didn't think I was treated for that one and she tested me with the vial. She said, "you have no reaction or allergy to it, that's why". Wouldn't that have been the perfect opportunity for her to reel me in for treatments for me?
So many times I thought that NAET is just a little too wierd. How can your body know what the problem is but your brain can't tell you? Yet, it worked for me and it worked my dd and even if it didn't cure my son's ADHD, I think it benefited him. How can thousands of doctors be trained in this if it's only a hoax? How can they fake their way through all those treatments?
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flowercrafter Groupie

Joined: 20 October 2005 Location: United States Posts: 75
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My dd is just finishing up with the NAET treatments. As soon as she was treated for wheat, she had no more stomach/gallbladder issues. The doctor said to not go all out and eat wheat but she pretty much ate it everyday and still does. She went from having severe pain every night after dinner to nothing. We decided to continue through other treatments because she has some problems with acne. I suppose I could have stopped after the wheat to save money but I think I would have always wondered if it would help to be all clear of allergies. I'm not saying that eating wheat or other allergenic food like dairy is good for you but if your child has a bad reaction to a food, this is well worth looking into. We can't always control what they get to consume at school or with friends and it's good to feel reassured that they won't suffer or even land up in the hospital because of accidentally eating something.
Lisa
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