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Posted: 06 April 2007 at 4:36pm | IP Logged Quote sparklijelibean

Difficult to know how many and which forums to post this on! I have mentioned it before but thought maybe this board would like to hear about our family's experience with Phosphatidyl Serine.

I am adult ADHD diagnosed with 5 kids all on the AS. 3 of them are ADHD like me. During a neurology consultation ( we had to pay!! of course!!) it was suggested that a 'full battery of bloods' were carried out on my 11yr old. The results appeared normal until my bessie mate ( luckily for me an expert in AS) noticed that his SERINE levels were very low, below what is considered to be within normal range. The lab had higlighted it but not commented.

Researching serine (non-essential amino acid) we discovered that it was ESSENTIAL for the neuron development and function. Basically it comes down to protein. Serine is hugely important and whilst we used to get a lot more from food, in today's processed food/supermarket era we get virtually no supplementation. Serine was sourced from animals but with the BCE crisis, it is now sourced from Soya.

PS has many valuable actions. PS appears to inhibit cortisol, this is invaluable for our family as we do tend to become frustrated easily and panic or jump to conclusions ( usually the wrong ones!). Whilst the initial 10second adrenaline rush is still there, it is a relief to know that the amigdyla is not being flooded in turn knocking the hippocampus off! Result is that one can think, remember and keep calm even when the situation becomes difficult. The glycine chain is heavily involved and a molecular biologist would I am sure be able to make simple sense of it all! Sadly I am a nurse and doing the best I can.

PS has no side effects BUT it is not recommended for anyone taking Warfarin or that has an existing blood disorder.

Deciding to purchase it from the www, we tried it on my son and waited.............for 20mins!!! Yea you all heard correctly 20mins and he became less anxious, hyperactive, irritable. He was able to focus, concentrate, felt happier within himself and his stammer was noticeably improved! Not wanting to jump to conclusions too quickly I held my breath. It soon became apparent to those around him including medical professionals that it appeared more successful than the stimulant prescriptive medications ( ritalin, concerta, dex) that we had been using for years.

PS is not only safe, no side effects but it works immediately unlike Omega 3/6 etc. The duration depending on the person is around about 4-5hrs. My son can feel himself running out as he craves sugar and becomes sweaty, hot and irritable. He now asks for it and is aware of the huge difference it makes.

I soon discovered that is worked on me aswell. I feel transformed, calm, appropriate, measured and much more able to cope! Since then we have rallied all our ADHD friends together and they also have tried it, loved it and continue taking it. It is simply remarkable. I have spent many months researching PS and every day I am finding more and more out about it that never fails to take my breath away. This would not appear to be a familial incident, even my Social Workers son is on it now with fantastic results.  We have great support from the our medical team. They are gobsmacked by the change in our family!

I did not ever set out to find a natural alternative to stimulant medication. I am a registered nurse and like chemicals! Ritalin etc have I feel a very valuable role in the treatment of ADHD. It gave me the ability to know how it felt to concentrate.I used it as a learning tool, my window of opportunity to still my brain for long enough. I have now no room in our lives for stimulants, ironic really as I have spent my whole life battling for prescriptive stimulants for both me and my children. I did not set out to find PS, it found me. The results with people around me are simply staggering. Seeing is believing and you certainly see the difference right before your eyes. You only need 1 capsule  to see and witness the improvement for yourselves.

There are no side effects and there are I am delighted to say Clinical Trials going on as I type in Israel. It would seem that PS has been discovered as a little known treasure that maybe we have overlooked for far too long. They are currently in stage 2 of testing.

I am not saying this is a cure! There is no cure for ADHD. Core sypmptoms can be alleviated and helped and this is precisely the role of PS.

Gosh, sound like an advert for PS, I do not work for the company, I am not a Pharmaceutical rep and I do not have shares in the company that owns the patent!

Oh and by the way the miracles continue as I have no longer any menopausal sweats (thank goodness, I will never diss them again with anyone!). My colon (due for total removal) ravaged by IBS? is now performing beautifully and has been saved.

This post must sound or read completely crazily. I am really not out to upset or give false hope to anyone, I do not want fame or blame BUT guy's this is one to watch, seriously. It is our lifeline. I anticipate being on PS for the rest of my life. I would not want to return to how I felt, behaved and acted ever.

The speed with which PS works is remarkable. I barely still believe it myself. I pinch myself every day just to check that it is true!

I am sure that there will be many sceptics out there as indeed I would possibly have been one of them. All I can do is pass on the information and hope that it may help some of you out there who are currently struggling against not wanting to medicate with stimulants or those of you who are unable to get the medication you feel you need. I know I prefer no side effects via the  natural than side effects via the chemical.

I am posting the link for the clinical trials in Israel so you can all make up your own minds on the miracles of PS.

The Efficacy and Safety of Phosphatidylserine-Omega3 in Children With Attention-Deficit/ Hyperactivity Disorder
Condition: Attention Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD)

 

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Posted: 07 April 2007 at 11:36am | IP Logged Quote sparklijelibean

Yes of course I will, you may be interested to know that trials using PS are being carried out on large tumours, Parkinsons, Rheumatoid Arthritis and Memory decline in the elderly. If you click on the link in the OP you should be able to access these from the search facility.

I maybe have already mentioned that I have a feeling that PS may also prove invaluable to those suffering from ME ( chronic fatigue syndrome).

A number of my NT friends have also tried it and have found it invaluable in different ways. One friend (been on anti-depressants for years) is now weaning off and relying on PS only, another friend finds interviews, exams etc very difficult as maybe we all do, she takes PS for the duration of the stressful times. There seems to be no rule however me with 'ring of fire' ADHD needs to take it 4xdaily. Without it I feel vulnerable, emotionally labile, inattentive and far more prone to tempers. It has changed my life, my childrens life and everyone around us. It is helpful particularly if you time it before psychiatry, paediatric, speech therapy, occupational therapy, pyschologist ............................appointments, heaven knows we have enough of them, even if most of them are a total waste of time and makes our blood boil!!

Anything else I can add or find out, I will certainly share it with everyone on this forum.

 

 

 

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Posted: 07 April 2007 at 10:25pm | IP Logged Quote Tabby15

Jellibean..what dosage are you using on your children?  I have a 10 yr old and am interested in trying this.
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Posted: 08 April 2007 at 2:38am | IP Logged Quote sparklijelibean

Hi there, we use PS 500mg. The maximum daily dose is 2gms. Depending on the individual the needs can be different. My son has 500mg three times a day, total dose 1500mg daily. I on the other hand take 4xdaily =2gms day. It will be hit and miss a bit at first until you see how long it lasts.

The duration that I am finding is 4-6hrs with us! My son is 11 but a bit weighty to be honest so has more body to absorb it!!

My advice would be to try with 500mg and watch very closely until you get an idea of how fast it works etc! No side effects thank goodness and PS is known to be safe.

Good luck and let us all know how you get on! X

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Posted: 08 April 2007 at 5:13am | IP Logged Quote MegMaguire

We use Calm PRT which contains Phosphatidylserine among other things.  When we were on vacation, we accidentally left our bottle of supplements at home and I was able to go to a natural pharmacy and get some PS -- it was a great substitute.

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Posted: 08 April 2007 at 8:34am | IP Logged Quote sparklijelibean

Hi Meg, good to hear about your experiences with PS. I am really interested to know the effects you noticed from it. I have not tried Calm PRT! We have been using PS neat! I have found that mixing anything with PS alters the effects, do you prefer CalmPRT or happier with pure PS?

We are having such amazing success with it neat I am reluctant to try anything else! What are your feelings. My youngest is 11 with ring of fire ADHD?

Thanks so much x

 

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Posted: 08 April 2007 at 11:06am | IP Logged Quote MegMaguire

I don't really know that there is a difference for us.  He has been on Calm PRT for about a year and a half with much success.  It includes a couple of other ingredients and we use it under the advice of our Naturopathic Doctor along with Omegas and Magnesium.  When we were on vacation using the straight PS I did not notice any difference, really, from the Calm PRT. 

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Posted: 08 April 2007 at 11:35am | IP Logged Quote sparklijelibean

Mmmm thanks for that! Seems like the PS is the most noticeable and possibly potent constituent then?

We certainly see a massive difference and prefer to give it on its own. Maybe it is just me but I (anti-depressant queen of the UK!) rely solely and wholely on PS now. No anti-depressants, stimulants or night sedation! Infact the PS has been working better on its own! Trouble is I am such a huge fan of PS I tend to get a bit OTT about it! What a surprise, but then I am ADHD aswell!

As a nurse I am totally gobsmacked! Done chemicals all our lives and now they are all abandoned!! Thanks so much for the input, really helps.

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Jelibean..I live in Australia and find that PS is quite expensive, $30 for 30 caps of 100 mg.  So giving my son 500mg x 3 times a day would be too costly for us.  Is it cheaper to buy in U.S.?
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Posted: 09 April 2007 at 2:44am | IP Logged Quote sparklijelibean

Hi Tabby, yea I agree PS is expensive, it seems to be the most costly of the amino acids.

 I use the Natural Sources PS 500mg 60 softgels approx $22. I am in the UK so order more to lessen the import duty. We are on a very low income and are paying £100/month to keep us going! I would remortgage the house before coming off PS.

 

This is what I buy. There is still 100mg serine in this, we find it AMAZING! at least it is a bit cheaper!!

(edited to remove link to sales site) 



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