Posted: 23 April 2007 at 12:48pm | IP Logged

Mmmm interesting. I am going to get back to you on this one notellin! Interesting those abscences though. Apart from the other time has he ever exhibited those signs? Our family, the 4 of us ring of fires literally run on 100mph. I often used to say that I wished I could find the off button! It could be that he has been so used to running on high, it is a shock to suddenly slow down! I know that it felt strange for me. I was almost pinching myself at one point. My driving slowed down as did my speech! It is a bit of a shock! Not saying that this is the reason. Just a thought. I have another few things running around in my head but want to check them out first.

I promise though to get back to you. What are his eating habits like on and off PS. Does he crave carbs and sugar? The glycine chain is a very finely balanced mechanism, could be that he is swinging from one extreme across to the other. Are there any biochemists on the forum that could explain further? I will certainly look into this further.

Posted: 23 April 2007 at 3:16pm | IP Logged

NoTellin Been having a chat with some friends of mine in the know, and also doing a bit more research! I cannot find anywhere PS spacing anyone out anywhere and I have really searched. Would seem that if PS is not going to show the dramatic results that we have seen it will equally just disappear out of the system in about 4-6hrs. I do though think that PS calms the brain down so much, it is a bit spooky for the uninitiated! I did say I think on my first post that we were blown away with the sheer drama of it all! I think maybe that is what you are experiencing. I would be interested in you giving it raw again. Maybe this time the difference will be gentler as you know what to expect! It is mindblowing though! I think what you are experiencing is similar to us. Just give it time to settle down and the body getting used to running at more reasonable speed!

Think of it as motor oil in a car. Or even very rich organic meat, it may be too rich at first for the car/body. Time of adjustment is needed before the car can run and the bowels can work properly again! Am I rambling, yes I know I am. It is bedtime here in the UK so I will bid you all goodnight and sweet dreams.x

Posted: 23 April 2007 at 3:42pm | IP Logged

If PS is only in the system for 4-6 hrs, then the spacing out occurred after the PS was out of his system.

Posted: 23 April 2007 at 8:33pm | IP Logged

Hi!  No tellin - I thought you might like to know that I have only given PS with fish oil with my two boys.  I give them their regular vitamin supplements, fish oil, and PS every morning and then PS and fish oil the other two times together.  I have never tried just PS alone,  but when I added it to the other things I saw pretty miraculous results (especially for my really hyper adhd son.)  So maybe when you try PS with the fish oil, he won't be so spacey.  I sure hope it works for you as well as it has for us.   It took longer to notice  a difference in my younger son, but we continue to see improvements.  Anyway, good luck.

Posted: 25 April 2007 at 5:52am | IP Logged

So what are the long term effects of useing the Short way around the Methylation Pathway with out supporting the long way around?

What other supplements would support the long way while using PS? You mentioned b12 and Folic acid is that all? Ds is getting 200mcgs of Folate (Folic acid) and 40mcgs of B12 (Cyanocobalamin) in his multivitamins

Sparklijelibean,  Are the kids taking any multivitamins everyday?

Posted: 25 April 2007 at 10:02am | IP Logged

Good evening from the UK

Meli - No we are not using any vitamin supplementation. Literally just the PS. Keeping it as simple as possible and boosting him up with plenty of natural, wholesome food. Really changing the way we live now. No more crisps, carbs or fat. Just protein and everything else in much smaller quantities. I have also started taking my 11yr old to the gym. He is supervised by a Personal Trainer and it is really helping his co-ordination, self esteem and confidence. I did not know we could take kids to the gym but apparently we can!!

We still continue with the same great results and since stripping back to NOTHING else we are very stable, for the first time in our lives. One tip is to eat or try to eat a lettuce a day. I find that kids are not too averse to lettuce. It is full of free radicals and I am not a healthy freak by any means but it is simple and inoffensive! So folks just Phospatidyl Serine. I do not even give Calpol unless I can help it!