Posted: 02 November 2009 at 4:42pm | IP Logged

im sorry this post is so wierd 

 im hyper focussing and guessing at the same time

this post cant be taken seriously  - ommas

i guess my biggest question is, do you guys think the irritability aspect is part of ADHD?

IMPULSE

Think about this for a minute.

there are two areas of the brain that help us react.

there a gland that were born with  and then between 11-17 we start to rely on more cognitive thoughts and not just our first reaction.

 this is why  its seen as more prevaliant in children because some us delay learning to control our emotions cognitively as our brains fully develope  and we use our cognitive thoughts to react  rather than our primal instincts.

so  there is this impulse thing.

ive noticed in myself that i can see an agressor coming and think too myself  ,,

im not gonna argue ,im not gonna argue ,im not gonna argue ,im not gonna argue ,

then the stress hits and i get caught up i dont hear my inner voice

that gland is sending out strong signals  to react to what im hearing without thinking. its easy to give in to my gut reactions but most adults know  that thinking things through ,even asking for clarification is worth the time and effort, and aviods potential stress 

it took a long time for me to keep my mouth shut. and just listen. especially when someone is demanding answers NOWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GDI

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SO I HAD TO START MAPPING OUT MY VERBAL CUES.

what sets me off,

what calms me down.

what creates time to think before answering!

when i started taking meds  my cues changed .

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believe it or not

relearning to take a time out  was nessasary.

like a child being sent to a chair or a corner.

sounds wierd  30 and sendinng mself to a time out.

but i was suprised at how much better i could think through problems when i was calm.  actually i relised i was a great problem solver  , but i was a terrible debater. so i keep my mouth shut when someone else is upset.

thats a social cue  that doesnt change with med changes.

if im i know im going to make them mad ---   i say what i got to say then i sit on my hands and listen  trying to repeat what thier saying  to be clear(which calms them)  . then when thier calm and were both calm i rebuttle.

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what im saying is  irratibility is more of a frustration issue  which is not solely ADHD. 

but adhd do have alot of irratibility due to external stimules

i mean mixed with

not recalling steps

hyperfocusing

felling overwhelmed

loss sense of time

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i would say  

1.  a complete and accurate diagnosis
2. the right meds and dosage

are the best combination for irratibility

follow that with effective  listening and communication skills. then 

   3. a therapist can see right through emotional issues while talking  , to help identify emotional triggers and discover coping skills to use instead of impulsive reactions . and that is the miracle of a great therapist-

that they can bring forth these terrible emotions to help you reconize them coming and  practice descalation in the privacy of thier room. instead of with important people in our daily lives.  dont forget to thank them for what thier worth!!!!!!!!!

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well i thought i was a little off

so looked up some of it to be sure

we keep some of our adolesnt coping skills , if our brains havent fully developed. Although scientists don't know yet what accounts for the observed changes, they may parallel a pruning process that occurs early in life that appears to follow the principle of "use-it-or-lose-it:" neural connections, or synapses, that get exercised are retained, while those that don't are lost.

its my understanding that as this pruning occures - the area being pruned becomes hyper activated  - similar to what happens with alzhimers as parts of the brain shut down.

so my self observation is why im sometimes having hyper thoughts and other times  im just staring at nothing

so many things can make this happen, genetic, trauma, disease that inhibits growth, drugs like pot  that damage brain cells and furthur retard new growth during the development of the Frontal Lobe during its maturing stage

the good news is with  diagnosis,meds, and therapy we can learn new coping skills.

read this link too  as there are more  factors in the adhd lable than just irritability that last well beyond high school.

 

http://www.adhdnews.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=33894& KW=ommas

 

 

Posted: 02 November 2009 at 8:38pm | IP Logged

due to circumstances beyond our control  speak camly and slowly

Posted: 03 November 2009 at 5:41am | IP Logged

well.

sometimes i can be insightful.

other times my posts go overboard.

thats when i need to back off from posting .

I appologize brunette678

this is now way for me to treat a newbie  . im sorry.

a point I was trying to make  is.

our responses come from two origins

an emotional response  were born with.

then sometime in adolesence our frontal lobe starts to offer a cognitive response.

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so IMHO

irritability stems from "overwhelming"  feelings though not easily spotted.

so when someone confronts us about something weve been avoiding or dwelling on  they open our emotional bag . if were not careful to give moments of cognitve time we may just snap out the first things that come to our mind.

or just blurt out what were feeling. It can be a stimulating habit.

another IMHO that is not in consensus.

self-irritating  -- this is out on limb here too!

but allowing oneself to be in a state of irritability beyond a trigger or situation

may be a self-stimulus  - being poised to be attentive

using the  "irritable" feelings to stay focussed ( as long as something irritates you you remain focussed on it)

irritabilty can be a negative coping skill .

Posted: 03 November 2009 at 3:39pm | IP Logged

“emotional dysregulation” its called

What's an ADHDer do, respond less cognitively and more emotionally?
we can , anyone can - when thinking like a juvenile adult.

not more emotionally?  only emotionally - like a childs instinct response

i guess my biggest question is, do you guys think the irritability aspect is part of ADHD?  Yes, and it's called “emotional dysregulation”

1.  a complete and accurate diagnosis
2. the right meds and dosage

are the best combination for irratibility

   3. and see a therapist

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sorry im so out there , but i can't think of adhd on a language level only.

there are many variables  and without understanding brain anatomy its very difficult for me to explain in ten words, because the cause is chemical & environmental.

how about

omass-"old habits in young adults need to learn, change, grow"

but even there  adhd presents itself  differently  at different stages of life.

so approaches to child,juvenile , adult and gereatric stages require altering the appraoch.