Aderall for 3year old | ADHD Information

Hello--

I want to start off by saying I am not a doctor, I am in my second year of psychology and I am also certified it organics. I have started a study on the effects of chemicals on the body and how NUTRITION is a HUGE part of our lives. Diet is what i feel to be the leading cause of psych problems in our world today. The percentage of people with psychological disorders in our country is staggering!! We are surrounded by supermarket food that is low in nutrition. For example Kraft Macaroni & Cheese has no nutritional value, food companies fill our food up with salts and sugars and artifical flavors to draw us to them. Our bodies are our most important resources, with out them we would not be here, remember that!! Our livers filter all of this food that is genetically modified instead of doing its daily job of filtering everyday polutants. By adding medication into a childs life it puts there small livers in overdrive. What is in our blood stream is directly related to what feeds our brains. By starting a child on baby formula and canned foods you are immediatly subjecting them to chemicals. There are NO CLINICAL STUDIES IN THE UNITED STATES ON HARMFUL EFFECTS THAT OUR FOODS AND CHEMICALS YIELD ON OUR BODIES!! I am a firm believer in what we eat is what and who we are. I have been eating organically for the past 4 months (yes it is difficult fighting cravings for americanized food!) My mood has been stableized almost completely! (I was diagnosed "acute bipolar disorder" by a psychologist) I am still having adhd symptoms but not as bad as they were. (I would not be able to previously to sit ant type for this long w/o getting antsy) PLEASE start your children on an organic, natural diet you will be amazed on the amount of energy, focus and stableization your child will have. If anyone has any questions please e-mail me Nate@ThompsonRidge.com, and visit www.storewars.org (not my website but enforces topics i have covered!

Thanks --

Nate

my son was placed on adderal and he flipped out.... please do not put your son on any adhd medication until they have ruled out bipolar...

Hi everyone!

I have a question for some of you experienced moms of ADHD kiddos. Today, my 3yo (he'll be 4 in Dec.) had his evaluation with the psychiatrist for ADHD. The doctor told us that he does seem to have ADHD along with ODD, most likely. He also said he sees some of the "traits" of bipolar but with him being so young he will not and cannot diagnose the bipolar. I'm not sure how I feel about that. I really need to do some research on bipolar b/c I just never thought of my son being bipolar. Anyhoo, he did prescribe him a prescription for Aderall 2.5mg. He wants to start him out taking 1/2 pill in the morning after breakfast for three days and see how it does on that. If he "crashes" in the afternoons, has meltdowns, etc. , then we need to add another 1/2 pill after lunch and see how that goes.

I will start this tomorrow and was wondering if any of you would mind sharing your experiences with this medication. I'm very new to all of this and any info at all would be helpful!

Thanks so much!

your dr is a quack no 3 year old should be on any drugs. he's getting
kickbacks from the drug companies. ask him how many other prescriptions
for these drugs has he prescribed. too many to count. do your child a favor
and let him be a normal child. don't drug him because its going to make him
crazymy son is 6 and was put on adderall at 5 yo. he hade seizures and a rapid heart rate, switched him to cioncerta and he is not having any problems with it. best of all he doesnt look like he is drugged like he did with adderral. My son was put on adderall and he is 4 years old and he flipped out too. He cut me with a plastic knife on my forehead and leg. They think he also shows bipolar traits so watch him closely. How did it go with him taking it.

Adderall for a 3 year old?! That is indefensible.

No responsible physician would ever contemplate such a thing, no matter how few mg. The idea is ridiculous.

Behavioral therapy and patience are the best course. Oh, and watch out for television. TV + kids + hours per day --> ADD/ADHD. Too many parents use the television as a substitute parent or as a babysitter.

carpediem38628.5629282407

Hi Mom2,

May I ask why he was evaluated in the first place?

Was it because of a family history of LD, or did he himself present with symptoms?

Did the doc offer alternate treatments, including other meds?

Best wishes,

Thanks,

David

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Adderall for a 3 year old?! That is indefensible.

No responsible physician would ever contemplate such a thing, no matter how few mg. The idea is ridiculous.

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my sonturned two in september 9t to be exact and his third appt. with psych dr is indec. and she already told me she dont usualy start meds till age of three but he is BAD and he is adhd/odd and she is gonna start him low dosage and slow. so yes i believe i know my child and he has seen the psych dr enuf to knw that it is needed.

sorr you feel 3 is too young. but too some mayvbe , to others in diferent circumstances no

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Hi everyone!

I will start this tomorrow and was wondering if any of you would mind sharing your experiences with this medication. I'm very new to all of this and any info at all would be helpful!

Thanks so much!

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bipolar.com

or ask psm about it she is the pro when it comes to bipolar here

drs can diagnose at 2, but prefer to wait to medicate till three unless symptoms are severe....there are plenty of meds out there that may benefit your child....dowhat you think is right, u no your child best......i am going to put my child on a low low dose of meds in dec and he is two....we could all argu this till the end and all of us have our own opinion but i believe the parent is the one who knows their child the best.How could you possibly feel that??? oxoxox that's not auntie-ozzie, is it?

Surely you jest, mon ami. I am quite your ally, as the canucks and english and zoolander and indian and egyptian and iraqi and boy you had a big empire and south african well as well.
i don't incite daviecentric, i just feel that you are anti-australian..

I'm not going to argue this point but I have researched this for the past 2 years and there is no way a Dr. can dx a 2 yr. old with ADHD.
Most Dr.'s are reluctant to do it at 5 yrs. of age unless there has been a head injury.
ALL 2 yr. olds act ADD'ish at times. They are impulsive, have a short attention span, hyper, uncontroable, distructive, you name it.
You are right, every parent knows their own kid. It's our job to make good and informed choices for them.
Good Luck to you.
FYI, Adderall and Dexadrine are both approved for use in children as young as 3 years of age. I don't usually agree with medication that young because diagnosis is generally inconclusive, but sometimes it is a necessary step, and Adderall does have FDA approval for that purpose. As both a student of bipolar disorder and sufferer, I can tell you that stims, particularly adderall, are generally safe IF the patient is also on a mood stabilizer. They don't seem to cause rapid cycling or induce mania in most patients when taken this way. I don't know what extenuating circumstances led to the diagnosis, but trying a stim without a mood stabilizing agent is certainly one way to confirm a bipolar diagnosis! I say that in irony, yet in reality it is common to prescribe a destabilizing agent (ie an antidepressant, stim) to someone who needs it if the diagnosis of bipolar is unclear. If nothing else, it will quickly tell you if bipolar is something you need to be concerned with. Many children with ODD as well as children with bipolar do well with tiny, tiny doses of atypical antipsychotics. Not that I advocate use of antipsychotics in children... I don't unless it is clearly needed. My point is that other meds out there may allow him to take adderall should it prove to be problematic on its own.

[QUOTE=Bailey]PLEASE don't put your 3 yr. old on adderall!
It's a dangerous drug for children. My son was almost 7 when we put him on a low dose (5 mg.) It seemed to be the "wonder drug" at first but it soon turned into a nightmare. My son had horrible mood swings, raging headaches where he would vomit, no appetite, couldn't sleep, and so many other undesirable side effects.
I don't think a Dr. is suppose to be able to diagnose ADD until the child is around 6 yrs. Spare your child all the agaony and make sure he actually has something. It might not be ADHD. I will NEVER give my son that drug or any other mind altering drug ever again. These drugs are very powerful and they can harm!
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And Bailey, I want to say that, barring extraordinary circumstance, I agree with you. They are very powerful agents that I don't believe should be used in children this young until all other options have been exhausted. Perhaps that is the case here. Most docs (most competent docs) won't prescribe that young without good reason. Just my two cents!

shakespeare38630.5378009259One more thing (sorry, I'm outspoken

)... the titration schedule mentioned should be very safe. Start low and go slow is a good motto when medicating children this young. Plenty of children with serious ADHD/ ODD have done well on these medications, so I wouldn't spend too much time worrying about it. If the doc prescribed it, and you trust him, then trust that he has your child's best interest in mind and give it a shot. I'll shut up now... it just gets to me when people think of medication as a punishment. I don't believe in the overmedication of children, but sometimes meds are the right way to go. shakespeare38630.5622800926

You Wink LOL Tongue ! Go

Shakespeare!

hello, we have talked before.,..i also have a 3 yr old son...all i can say is when dillon was given adderal he flipped out... that is because dillon is bipolar... any dr. that thinks your son may be bipolar shouldn't give him adhd medication 1st... they should always try bipolar meds 1st...i'm not a doctor and i don't know everything but i do know that giving a bp person adhd meds could and most likely will throw him into a manic state......good luck and please pm me ... i would really like to know how your son does on adderal...

[QUOTE=Bailey]Why does EVERYTHING have to have chemicals and perservatives added to it? Even our fruit is chemically enhanced!
Why does Frito Lay make those bright orange cheetos with tons of chemicals in them when their natural ones are so much better for you and just as good [QUOTE]

Why do Americans produce the healthiest, most athletic, longest lived, richest, powerful, and most creative citizens on the planet?

I think it's the ADHD & meds we take...

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hey davieboy, cut the americancentric crap..

we all know that the aussies are much smarter, fitter, healthier and are more inventive!!

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oh girl you know that is going to cause a fight...

oopss then!!!

you know i'm not polemic in the slightest

hey davieboy, cut the americancentric crap..

we all know that the aussies are much smarter, fitter, healthier and are more inventive!!

[QUOTE=Bailey]This is such a great topic!
I have to agree with the person who talked about diet and the horrible way people eat in this country. Is it just a coincidence that the U.S. has more issues related to ADHD than any other? [/QUOTE]

No. ADHD is concentrated in North America and Australia b/c ADHD is endemic in Europeans, and these were the last frontiers restless Europeans could enfranchise.

Here is my advice.

I would not give him any medication when he is that young unless his life is somehow affected negatively by the ADD or ADHD symptoms. If he can handle things and be happy as a three-year-old, then let things be. Have fun, enjoy his energy, etc.

But is life is traumatic at this age because of it, if he can't get along with kids his age, etc, basically, if his ADD or ADHD is affecting his life so that the quality is bad somehow, then I can see giving him treatment for it.

BTW, you could try some exercises that I have been trying. They have helped me a lot. The book is called Stopping ADHD.

Good luck.

the more i thought about this the more i realize that dillon hasn't been the same since the doctor tried adhd meds on him... dillon was on trileptal and risperdal.. then we went to a new doctor..who wanted to get dillon's adhd undercontrol so he put him on adderal that flipped him out so then ritilan was tried.. same affect...so dillon was put back on trileptal and risperdal..anyways before the adhd meds dillons outburst,swearing,his violent behavior was undercontrol now his behavior is the way is was before he was place on any meds..so what i am saying is i think the adhd med threw dillon into a manic stage that the meds that was working before don't work anymore.. sorry if i'm not making any sense...please read "the bipolar child" please....

PLEASE don't put your 3 yr. old on adderall!
It's a dangerous drug for children. My son was almost 7 when we put him on a low dose (5 mg.) It seemed to be the "wonder drug" at first but it soon turned into a nightmare. My son had horrible mood swings, raging headaches where he would vomit, no appetite, couldn't sleep, and so many other undesirable side effects.
I don't think a Dr. is suppose to be able to diagnose ADD until the child is around 6 yrs. Spare your child all the agaony and make sure he actually has something. It might not be ADHD. I will NEVER give my son that drug or any other mind altering drug ever again. These drugs are very powerful and they can harm!

its also being overdiagnosed..

and thats the concern...

This is such a great topic!
I have to agree with the person who talked about diet and the horrible way people eat in this country. Is it just a coincidence that the U.S. has more issues related to ADHD than any other? We eat like CRAP here! Not all our fault though.
Why does EVERYTHING have to have chemicals and perservatives added to it? Even our fruit is chemically enhanced!
Why does Frito Lay make those bright orange cheetos with tons of chemicals in them when their natural ones are so much better for you and just as good (Yes, they are twice as expensive but I have no idea why!)
Has anyone done any research on Asia & Europe and their ADHD epidemic? They don't have one!!!!!!
I say take a good hard look at what our kids and us are putting in our mouths and that is where the problems lye.
[QUOTE=Davidornado]How could you possibly feel that??? oxoxox that's not auntie-ozzie, is it?

Surely you jest, mon ami. I am quite your ally, as the canucks and english and zoolander and indian and egyptian and iraqi and boy you had a big empire and south african well as well.
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empire is now gone davieracistbigotboy.... as the 54th state, we demand the same rights and equality as those living in the nicer, more adjusted, wealthier states...

packaged processed foods are huge in asia.. so is msg..

don't forget the strict discipline that is enforced in these communities... these kids would be whipped into line before they could walk..

cultural differences come into play also.. hyper, inattentive kids in southern europe would just be deemed as normal lazy kids.. no red flags..

I want to toss this out there, though I realize it can be used to support your position as well as mine. I want this to be a mutually respectful sharing of information, so I'm not commited to expressing only those facts/ theories that support my point of view.

Anyway, diagnosis of ADHD is actually on the rise in many nations. Particularly (and this is the part that could support anti-ADHD philosophy) westernized nations. What you term an "epidemic" is happening in Norway and Great Britain, as well as Asia to a lesser extent. You can view that as the influence of US ideology and propaganda in "Americanized" nations or as broader recognition of the disorder. It is what it is. In any case, many other nations are catching up with us in this respect.

But you have to admit, they eat a far healthier diet than Americans do.
At least the last time I was in Europe I saw pretty much no one overweight.
They don't snack. Snack foods are the worst as far as nutrition goes.
We have been to Russia 3 times and they don't snack either. They eat fresh veggies grown off their tiny balaconies.

Why are people so eager to go the drug route?
If you are thinking this is an "easy fix" you are sadly mistaken.
ADHD personality traits are no picnic but believe me, it can get much worse!
Your child could die. Rapid heart rate is one of the side effects of some of these drugs. For a child who already has heart issues, that could be deadly.
Dr.'s don't always perscribe drugs because they truly feel it the best way to go. There are millions of dollars involved here. Money the drug companies are making as long as people believe they work.
Another thing, if your Dr. is making an ADHD dx in an hour while you sit in his office.......you need to get another opinion. This dx takes time.
Think about your childs diet, his sleeping habits, what he is being exposed to. Have allergy testing done.
Don't just try drug after drug just because the FDA says it's safe. Like they've never been wrong before?
Just my humble opinion

bailey and shakespeare i agree with both of you....but with my situation...my sons psych dr is highly recomended and has seen my two year old numerous tmes for more than just an hour at a time....adhd and odd runs high and with all that we have discussed he is in dire need of something....also shakespeare my psych dr and i agree with you start low and slow....that is wha she did with my 6 year old adhd/odd when he started...i also dont agree with meds as first option....nor do i believe it as a punishment...nor do i think it should be the first option....believe me when i say this......we have tried everything and he is worse than my now 6 year old was and is not just the typical 2 yr old going through terrible 2 stage....he needs help....and i am the one that can do that for him....

thank you both for your concerns....but i do trust my dr and myself and appreciate your opinions

oh ya and bailey just so you no when she started my child on his first dose of meds he was in there at least two times a week with bp check and heart rate check....and i also have a bp machine that also checks heart rate....i have been through all this b4 and i will only do what is best for my child.....

thank you for your concern

my daughter's school is filled with them...
i feel i must respond to all parents who feel medicating a toddler is wrong...unless you have been told that your child could be BIPOLAR you really don't have a clue..it is totally different then adhd.. i have a daughter who is adhd and she wasn't medicated until 4 grade.. so i do know the differents..i ask that you all please take the time to research bipolar in children..the behavior is so extreme and most of the time very violent.. my son did not sleep he would only sleep 3 or 4 hours each night..i will not go into my story,if anyone is interested they can read "toddler with adhd" thread..no parent wants to medicate their child but for the safety of the family and the child we have no choice..sheri, i was referring to adhd and dx adhd at such a young age..

i did however say that kids with severe outrages need specialised help...
but to me, severe outrages at 2 don't equate to adhd... it could be a number of things from spoil brat syndrome to bipolar....

there is such a thing called spoiled brat syndrome ?

i truly beleave that a child with bipolar ends up being spoiled...since the word no..usually sets them off..yeah there is sheri.. kids that always get their own way and can't handle the word no..

there is no chemical imbalance, no physiological problem..
just spoilt beyond belief...

oh my god... now i have "herd" everything...Yeah! What she says...i can't understand dx a 2 yr old with adhd either..
whats the criteria??? 2 year olds don't focus, are hyper and are very implusive..
2 yr olds with outrages are a different kettle of fish..
but an adhd dx at 2??

i just don't like it...

[QUOTE=kam12]your dr is a quack no 3 year old should be on any drugs. he's getting
kickbacks from the drug companies. ask him how many other prescriptions
for these drugs has he prescribed. too many to count. do your child a favor
and let him be a normal child. don't drug him because its going to make him
crazy[/QUOTE]

Well said.

[QUOTE=carpediem]

Adderall for a 3 year old?! That is indefensible.

No responsible physician would ever contemplate such a thing, no matter how few mg. The idea is ridiculous.

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Well said.

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Hello--

Thanks --

Nate

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Good post.

[QUOTE=annidagostini]

Here is my advice.

BTW, you could try some exercises that I have been trying. They have helped me a lot. The book is called Stopping ADHD.

Good luck.

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i agree with you....as it is effectng my sons life...sociablely and himself...i have tried everything....he is not my only child with this and he is worse than the older...so i no what he needs best and am gonna end it with this. i have tried everything, so therefore i trust myself and my psych dr.

[QUOTE=Brookelea]hey davieboy, cut the americancentric crap..

we all know that the aussies are much smarter, fitter, healthier and are more inventive!![/QUOTE]

Well, I do know some aussie was so jealous they wrote a story called the Lizzard of Oz...

as oppossed to the old man that never learned how to spell

actually davieboy, i wasn't the ethnocentric one that believed that my country was superior to yours..

i know mine is

inciting disputation again?