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well, at least you no you had a great time......my luck i would of blown way more than i should of.. 

my motto

if i didnt have bad luck

i wouldnt have any at all

does that make my glass half emply

or does it make it half full

depends on the day

and on the way

i want to respond

so dont make me wave my wand

you might like it

and you might hate it

i could be nice

i could be mean

but i would love to rub you in ice

for the pleasure of the tease

Back to your original question -- I have always been a lightweight when it
comes to alcohol (3 glasses of wine and I would just about pass out).
Since starting Strattera, 3 drinks barely make me tipsy. I've been taking
stimulants for over ten years -- they didn't have this effect. I've just
noticed it with the Strattera, which I started about 5 weeks ago. I drink
really infrequently and am not real big on alcohol, so it's not like I'm
going to start overconsuming it -- it's just an interesting observation. It
fascinates me how little is known about brain chemistry.Wordwoman38612.6682060185I agree with how amazingly little is known about brain chemistry. Sometimes I think I know as much as most.

Since on anti-D's (first Effexor, now Cymbalta), I do believe my tolerance to alcohol has increased. Or my sensitivity has decreased.

I too am not a frequent drinker, really only one night every two weeks, occasionally once a week (see GlennW, I am honest now).

Last night we went to a blues concert (Tod Piazza, anyone?), and I had 2 whiskeys on the rocks in 2 hours, plus one 12 oz of water hydrator (I think they used to be called chasers). 30 minutes after the conclusion of the 2nd drink, I tested 0.00 on a breathalyzer (don't ask why I was breathalyzed...:) ).

Never having used such a devise, I do not know if this is common. However, it fed my belief that the medicinal regimen I'm on either inactivates the effects of the alcohol, or stimulates a rapid metabolism of it, or both.

Nevertheless, if this is the case, my conclusion is "Why bother drinking, if you don't get the buzz, and can't get buzzted?

---signed---

one lucky sucker

[QUOTE=Davidornado] [QUOTE=Professor]Davidornadoggedly, I see I've found someone who is exploring the brilliants that is the ADD mind.  I am truely amazed at the mysteries of life I've been able to uncover since medicating.  I'm looking forward to share knowledge with a mind that has obviously learned what these minds can do.[/QUOTE]

Hey, doc~

Thanks for the encouragement. It's encouraging. :)

Welcome to the Tapestry (the sum of all threads). What brings you here?

I was bored one night, done with work, poking around the ADDers world, and stumbled across this schtick. I really thought I'd ADDle away after a few posts, but found something edifying, and as you see, have employed the Hyper part of ADHD in sticking around, and sometimes sticking around. I do not walk softly, though.

Now I'm behind in work again. At least for an ADDer boredom doesn't last long.

If you can endure the agony, do a search on my posts. There are a few nuggets in the ore, but ya gotta diga round to appreciate them. Can't say I know all about the mind of AD, but I live with one, so I've learned to cope.

Again, thanks

D
  [/QUOTE]

I came to this board soon after taking my first adderall, back in Ocotober '04.  For the first time in my life I was able to control bordem long enough to open a web page. From there I attempted to rid myself of everything ADD.  I realized months later that having an increadibly active mind that notices everything is an beautiful gift.  The hyperfocusing is totally new to me.  I'm working on the ablity to notice everything, like we can, and still focus only what I want. I think its fun!

Professor38610.5578356481

most of my life i have used pot as my medication. and i'm grateful i have such low tolerance for alcohol, and the rest of the illicits.

i smoke much less understanding now the source of the short temper, the flightiness, the 'i can't stand to be in my own skin for no apparent reason', the unrelenting string of failures and broken relationships, yadayadayada....

and glen- i have seen what you have in davidornados posts. he is a bright and frequently lucid guy(check out our banter in the stupid thread). sometimes i can't tell if he's being brilliant, or if he's on some kind of bender, maybe employing the amphetamines a little too much.

i wish you all the best in any case.

Thanks all (you too David buddy) for working through this here.

I hate - emphasize that HATE to go on about other people's troubles.  Casting the first stone and all.  It's just so easy to avoid the troubles with alcohol - just don't use it!  Eating disorders and such - well you can't stop eating so it's hardest of all.

We all have crosses to bear.  I'll be the last to say I'm clean of the troubles that go with life.  You'll never pack my emotional baggage in an overhead compartment.

The only thing that kept me from going down the path that many of us have chosen is my biology.  Alcohol would kill me before it made me feel good and pot never made me feel as other's describe it does.  Thanks mom!!  DNA has it's advantages - her strong german code overrode much of pop's weaker english code so that's the saving grace for me!

When someone appears to be either justifying or endorsing the path of alcohol and illicit drugs I must speak up.  There are many here who are looking for a path and if they hear that others have had "success" with things such as pot or alcohol they might take that path too.  Please everyone be careful of seeming to be plugging something that could be detrimental to others?!?

Drink if you must.  Smoke if you must.  Just know that others are listening to you ok?

Ok I'm done.  Thanks.

 

- Glen

[QUOTE=seeker63]

most of my life i have used pot as my medication. and i'm grateful i have such low tolerance for alcohol, and the rest of the illicits.

i smoke much less understanding now the source of the short temper, the flightiness, the 'i can't stand to be in my own skin for no apparent reason', the unrelenting string of failures and broken relationships, yadayadayada....

and glen- i have seen what you have in davidornados posts. he is a bright and frequently lucid guy(check out our banter in the stupid thread). sometimes i can't tell if he's being brilliant, or if he's on some kind of bender, maybe employing the amphetamines a little too much.

i wish you all the best in any case.

[/QUOTE]

[quote=seeker63]i have seen what you have in davidornados posts. he is a bright and frequently lucid guy(check out our banter in the stupid thread). sometimes i can't tell if he's being brilliant, or if he's on some kind of bender, maybe employing the amphetamines a little too much.[/quote]

[quote=davidornadoggedly]you have seen what you have wanted to see in my posts. Perhaps brilliance, perhaps lucidity, but if I'm on any bender, it's the bender of a life lived naturally with ADHD. 

Investigate this data set: the timing of the posts, and the content of the posts, in the context of the diurnal rythm of my ADHD, knowing the onset and metabolism of my mxRxs. There are hours in the day where the meds are less influential.

Consider the environment also. If a serious post is to be responded to, seriousness prevails. If light banter is available, then so be it.[/quote]

I prefer to remain in the posts to remind folks that there is life outside the box. These boxes we build in response to society, to peer pressure, to not knowing we're building a box, limit our view of wonders beyond the walls. Remaining in the box reflects a lot of attention on self, whereas looking over the walls, or through them, which is much more intriguing, you will find a world beyond belief.  

AD/HD is a tool to see beyond the walls of conventional thinking. Either it gets used, abused, neglected, encarcerated, or released. Only a fractional few allow it's release, and follow it to success.

There are a lot more in the fold that if given the appropriate training, coping mechs, tools, mxRxs, environments, careers, etc. would become phenoms beyond their own minds, and contribute their names to history. Like Washington, Lincoln, Reagan, Edison, DaVinci, Davidornadog, Peter the Apostle, David the King, etc.

lolololol....a true poet..WITH A TWIST!!! Sorry about the alcohol, realized afterwards that for many people it probably does the trick but I've just seen too much crazy with that stuff
the tolerance thing has been the bane of my existance...well one of them..people who go on and on about how how "being real" is the best and how you shouldn't need a crutch cause we all have problems...if they were all like Glen and knew from xperience and didn't judge that would be okay...but these are the same people who sit and stuff their face everday or smoke ciggies or shop til they drop...or married for money or have maxed out all their cards..I feel like making up some flash cards, as soon as I hear someone going on in that vein I whip out my cards and hold one up:

Since you are blabbing on about how others shoulld or shouldn't use mind altering substances I wil presume, you are not a pound overweight, don't drink socially, don't use aspirin or painkillers, don't wear a padded bra, don't EVER take anything to help you sleep, would never use botox, do not colour your hair or go to a tanning salon and never close your eyes while your partner is tangling with you and imagine its someone else and especially NEVER EVER put on your best face or put your best foot forward cause what's wrong with the usual one...WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO CHANGE ANYTHING THAT NATURE HANDED TO YOU...now go home and take those hair extensions out and clean out your liquor cabinet you big hypocretan!

Maybe when we have our mini saga contest next year you can write my entry about adhd (cheating noooo..just saga by proxy!), 50 words and it has to tell a story...I've only ever written one and it was really good but I couldn't enter it as it was about an entanglement w/someone I work with (i know, first time but boy...disaster of Titanic type)…you're obviously a free flowing original thinker with an undeniable talent....a wordsmith!!! I would love to get stories from talented people like you and publish them in an "adhd scrapbook" type of book...stories that would show the real adventures that adhd can bring into your life (oh joy and not so joyful)


today was the day I knew had to happen
I now have a new monicker, I'm no longer Miss Incredible
I'm Miss Uncredible. Uncredibly unknowingly, unwillingly, undeniably unable to stand this anymore. I'm taking it very personally at this moment that they brought adderall back days before I had to go back to work.  8 weeks of nothing. People who used to be my friends at work have turned away from me (I don't know why) and my daughter has decided to punish me after finding out about the Adderall. It's like "oh, she has adhd eh, she's on drugs eh, well, now I'll get her". Get her back for being a recluse.
My boss and I had it out this morning, I can just feel how upset I am, I have put up with so much and done so much there and come through and now I"m losing credibility? (his words) At the exact moment in time when I got the meds people turned away, then they took the meds away and then I broke my wrist and I lost almost a month of work and then the summer but the Dexedrine burned me out so much I was about to go off and go to the US to get Adderall...

so, I did come home tonight and  self med, not really sure why I’m here right now, like a strange convergence of planets where the one thing that has made a huge change in my brain came along just as everything in my life collapsed from the weight of the years behind it…there is just too much mess around me...what would I do if I could not selfmed?

[QUOTE=Professor]Davidornadoggedly, I see I've found someone who is exploring the brilliants that is the ADD mind.  I am truely amazed at the mysteries of life I've been able to uncover since medicating.  I'm looking forward to share knowledge with a mind that has obviously learned what these minds can do.[/QUOTE]

Hey, doc~

Thanks for the encouragement. It's encouraging. :)

Welcome to the Tapestry (the sum of all threads). What brings you here?

I was bored one night, done with work, poking around the ADDers world, and stumbled across this schtick. I really thought I'd ADDle away after a few posts, but found something edifying, and as you see, have employed the Hyper part of ADHD in sticking around, and sometimes sticking around. I do not walk softly, though.

Now I'm behind in work again. At least for an ADDer boredom doesn't last long.

If you can endure the agony, do a search on my posts. There are a few nuggets in the ore, but ya gotta diga round to appreciate them. Can't say I know all about the mind of AD, but I live with one, so I've learned to cope.

Again, thanks

D
  that reminds me of one of my favourite quotes by some Persian guy (i
forget who) it goes sorta like this - mebbe got it a bit misquoted:

on my own, i am just a single thread but with my friends and family we
make a beautiful tapestry....


(mind you they always have been a bit obsessed with carpets over there!)chjones38610.3752777778Davidornadoggedly, I see I've found someone who is exploring the brilliants that is the ADD mind.  I am truely amazed at the mysteries of life I've been able to uncover since medicating.  I'm looking forward to share knowledge with a mind that has obviously learned what these minds can do.

                             Sabina     >    >


                          We all have hurt

                               We all have pain

                           What would you do if you could have

                                  a new heart

                                   and not be so b l u e

                            Yes   it could

                                     happen to you [QUOTE=sabina]

<p ="Msonormal">today was the day I knew had to happen
I now have a new monicker, I'm no longer Miss Incredible
I'm Miss Uncredible. Uncredibly unknowingly, unwillingly, undeniably
unable to
stand this anymore. I'm taking it very personally at this moment that they
brought adderall back days before I had to go back to work.  8 weeks of
nothing. People who used to be my friends at work have turned away
from me (I
don't know why) and my daughter has decided to punish me after finding
out
about the Adderall. It's like "oh, she has adhd eh, she's on drugs eh,
well, now I'll get her". Get her back for being a recluse.
My boss and I had it out this morning, I can just feel how upset I am, I
have
put up with so much and done so much there and come through and now
I"m
losing credibility? (his words) At the exact moment in time when I got the
meds
people turned away, then they took the meds away and then I broke my
wrist and
I lost almost a month of work and then the summer but the Dexedrine
burned me
out so much I was about to go off and go to the US to get Adderall...




<p ="Msonormal">so, I did come home tonight and<span style="">  </
span>self med, not really sure why I’m here right
now, like a strange convergence of planets where the one thing that has
made a
huge change in my brain came along just as everything in my life
collapsed from
the weight of the years behind it…there is just too much mess around
me...what would I do if I could not selfmed?



Sabina i don't understand??? what happened exactly. you were off meds
and then went on them. it doesn't matter if you don't want to spell it out
for me - i just couldn't quite get the gist of your post. hope you are
feeling better nonetheless.
[/QUOTE]

hi jones, sorry for the muddle. Am feeling better just have to ignore the nonsense. What happened was my gov't pulled Adderall after I had been on it for one month, so I found a life and they pulled it!  They lifted the ban about 3 wks ago and I've been back on for about 2 weeks. The summer was a lost time for me but I'm working on not letting the past ruin my new found joy.