night life when coming down from meds? | ADHD Information
lololololol exactly, I love it..every time I hear someone say something true my heart lightens...since our thoughts are so random (and obssesive
)
and seem to fire off in and from all directions why shouldn't our posts
be like that...hey, I would like to have that info if possible and a
new improved Adderrall????? Huck those at me and I'll put a whole
bottle under the mattress...why should I have to be adhderella and everyday when the clock strikes 6:00 fall into despair and anxiety....why should anyone?
did you know that political correctness was very prevalent in the Weimar Republic in the years before H rose to power. PC is the precursor to fascism and the current powers that be (PTB) made sure to introduce this into our society...a means to an end..I never could plan that far ahead myself
and now you've got me doin' this colour font thing...quit it!!
What's wrong with pretty colors? Changing the color helps me zero back in when my attention is wondering...
Now where was I going with that? 
I had never heard that about the Weimar Republic, but I can't say it surprises me. I personally believe the current US leader may be the Antichrist... and thus begins the tribulation! 
Anyway, my email address should be available. Just email me and I'll reply with the transcript info. Oh, and do a search on SPD465 if you have time. There doesn't seem to be much out there about it, but you might find a little. I personally couldn't sleep with the bottle under my matress. I'm very sensitive. Sensitivity, bane of royalty, and all that...
OH, SABINA!
How creative of you! Another WONderFul Word!
Adhderella....
And the wicked stepmothers are the no-knADDs...
But that's why I do it....silly rabbit..if I have a pill under my mattress and I sleep like a log I don't bother trying it...if it keeps me awake its a go!!!
an entire bottle should keep me up for nights on end..imagine what I could accomplish!!!! I have personally found that the hallucinations that accompany sleep deprivation, while kind of fun, tend to kind of negate any productivity.
That's something I don't get about med school. Why do they want us to work 36 hours straight? What patient wants you to treat them when you are seeing pretty little butterflies flying back and forth that aren't really there?!?.... and the prince is no-show!!!!!!!!!!!
and we don't lose our glass slippers at the witching hour but our wherewithall !!
and we have to find it ourselves cause there's no one to help try it on for size...
the wicked nonadd's try to pretend the wherewithall is theirs but when they try it on it's too much for their
narrow minds and they pass out in a most unattractive fashion......
and then no-show shows up cause he heard there were some hot babes passed out cold... ella doesn't want him anyway...not zoom zoom enough...
you're right, no sleep is a nightmare, I went through years of insomnia.....I would just like to not burn out before 11:00pm at least.. and the med students are run into the ground...everything is ass backwards in this society
I don't know that it's possible to pass out in an "attractive" fashion... although I've been told after a few parties that I would have looked OK after passing out had I not been slobbering. Live and Learn!
[QUOTE=shakespeare]I
have personally found that the hallucinations that accompany sleep
deprivation, while kind of fun, tend to kind of negate any
productivity. That's something I
don't get about med school. Why do they want us to work 36 hours
straight? What patient wants you to treat them when you are seeing
pretty little butterflies flying back and forth that aren't really
there?!?[/QUOTE]I have personally found that the hallucinations that accompany sleep aids, such as zolpidem, while kind of fun, tend to kind of negate any productivity, other than alterations of reality, which can be hillarious, and the production of anterograde amnesia.
That's something I don't get about med school. Why do they want us to work 36 hours straight? B/c your're getting paid so much, and they want to crank it down to miniumn wage...
What patient wants you to treat them when you are seeing pretty little butterflies flying back and forth that aren't really there?!? That's why there's coke in the coke machine...
Davidornado, where did you find that brain spect scan you posted earlier? I would love to hear more about it!
change the colour???? what moving shifting swirling cacophony of hues could you possibly want when you obviously have a Pantone overflow happpening?
I was a basement dweller once and my only ambition was to move up...was that wrong?
from reading posts and other info I think what I want to do is keep all the good stuff and lose all the bad stuff...is that possible?? and having the meds at night when I need to work or continue venturing out into the social world will help that to happen. I like what these pages say ( and short!!!!)
hhttp://www.addmtc.com/person.html
ttp://www.addmtc.com/genetic.html
http://www.addmtc.com/surprise.html
This whole dose wearing off thing must be common, why aren't more people making comment, I really would like to hear what others have experienced, those who stay up late enough to make a difference that is
...does everyone just get all the meds they want???? I've lost so many years, I don't want to live what's left from 9 till 6
laughter is the best!!!! throwing little berries and pine cones at people..playing tricks...anything to break that nonadd "polite" face.....save me from polite society and political correctness..I used to have more fun at work until new leader came in and I got squished down and had to watch what I did and said more....but I still threw kids out of the library for being pc!!!
told them to come back when they got over themselves!! Political correctness is a joke...and not a very funny one at that. The very name, "political" and "correctness", is oxymoronic. When has politics ever been correct? 
Shire had an all day ADHD hotline with specialists on-call to answer questions about the disorder and meds, etc. I called and asked the same question... is there anything that lasts all day? What can be done? I got a transcript of the conversation which includes the idea of adding a second dose of short acting meds. Sabina, I'd be happy to email it to you if it will help you persuade your doctor. Just let me know.
Oh, BTW, Shire (who else?) actually has a new version of Adderall in phase 3 trials with an anticipated release date sometime in 2006 (convenient, isn't it, when they're just about to lose the patent on Adderall XR? I hate the pharm industry...). It's an even longer acting version of the drug that right now is called spd465. They acknowledge that Adderall XR does not last long enough to get most through the day. I can't believe your doc is unfamiliar with this complaint! It's a very common problem.I'm just posting randomly now 'cause I don't wanna be a newbie anymore... [QUOTE=Davidornado]I could be like the basement dwellers...
[/QUOTE]ooohh daviewonder, i might just dob you in
dob?
[QUOTE=shakespeare]Davidornado, where did you find that brain spect scan you posted earlier? I would love to hear more about it!
[/QUOTE]
wikipedia.com
//ADHD
BTW, it's cold fusion...
well, I was hoping more people would respond, this is going to be a huge issue for me (my doc is a low doser) but I guess night life isn't a big draw
I'm afraid my foots are boringly predictable. So I spice it up with argyle socks...
I just discovered that I could change the color of my font... this is going to be fun.
Whoa! Dued! I read you say "I just discovered that I could change the color of my foot... this is going to be fun!
...this IS going to be fun!...
wheee need some appreciative playmates, anyway
Yeah, I change the colors of my foots from time to time, by
Like concerts loud music
dashing and dancing,
prancing and vixens,
omits and stupids,
dawners & Blitzing.
D2, Whether you're musing or the rhetoric is flying or trickster leading people down the secret garden path I'm pretty sure you must be entertaining and that's the road best taken when adhd....being w/someone who is serious and ...serious.....a fate worse than being forced to arrive at work at the same time everyday...
when it's later in the day and I go back to being a nomed and all the nonaads are around me I long for someone to let loose with some double sided sticky verbalizations...the more serious the conversations the more edgy and fidgety I get and I can't stay still, it drives me crazy, it ruins my outfits and clashes with my assumed sensibilities...is anyone out there using a "natural" med for a later dose? ahhh, nonaads people who don't have anomaly antithesis discombobulation
Yes!
I use laughter!
Amazing neurochemical reactions occur upon release of a few guffaws!
I even snort!!! Laughter!!!
Hey, sabina! I love you
're word "no-knADD!
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/no-knADD
Why no-knADDs behave the way they do:
Their brain's on fire...
Awwww, if only I could change the color of my brain...
I could be like the basement dwellers...
BTW, my doc and I compromised. His cap for me is 40mg/day, and he'll split that any way that works best for me. I used to take 40mg all at once in the AM, but when it wasn't lasting long enough we decided to try 30mg in the AM with a booster in the afternoon. That stretches it out for me without really losing any efficacy.
I just discovered that I could change the color of my font... this is going to be fun.
that's sweet, he makes you take them cause otherwise you would hold the floor with such discourse as you felt compelled to expell on that particular evening? What's wrong w/that?
[/QUOTE]Well, it's not so much a holding issue, more like diarhea: it just BLAAATZZZ out explosively messy at times. So, expelling was a more implicative description.
But it has a trigger.
A hair trigger.
ODD?
Sabina,
My doc is fairly flexible. He trusts that I know my body and I know how I'm functioning. Using a booster dose is actually a relatively common phenomenon. Remember, these drugs were designed to get a child through school without visiting the nurse's office. The claim that they last all day is somewhat misleading. Have you tried doing some research on it yourself? Maybe if you could back up your request with some hard data your doc would be more receptive to the idea
that's sweet, he makes you take them cause otherwise you would hold the floor with such discourse as you felt compelled to expell on that particular evening? What's wrong w/that?
I've never taken Ritalin so I don't know how it would feel, I could stick one under my mattress and try it out
Hi Kibbles & Shakespeare, thanks for the input, class is close to
what I have to do (constantly having to teach myself new things)
but hard for me as I'm working at home in the evenings and have to stay
on task...at work I can do that (usually) but at home...if the meds
wear off I find myself wandering around the apt. not working....and
going out socially, I went out and wasn't at my best and I said and did
some clumsy things, tired too but still..wish I could just say whatever
I wanted to (within bounds of course, no nasties...oh wait, I've done
that already), I feel like socially I'm afraid to say almost anything
anymore just to avoid seeing someone give me that look
I know the meds would help me to be more relaxed. My doc will have a
fit if I ask him for an extra dose but I am doing one today late
afternoon as I have two rogue 10mg Adderall and I need to work as many
hours as possible right now..Shakespeare, do you thing your Doc went
along cause you're a med student but wouldn't have otherwise?[QUOTE=sabina]
that's sweet, he makes you take them cause otherwise you would hold the floor with such discourse as you felt compelled to expell on that particular evening? What's wrong w/that?
I've never taken Ritalin so I don't know how it would feel, I could stick one under my mattress and try it out
[/QUOTE]Oh, don't go to all that trouble, Princess, just rub it between your fingers for a good feel. Don't get tangled up with it, though. Wouldn't be very satisfying.
I like your "Rogue" ADDerall. I'm gonna go look fro and to Rustle up some Rogue Ritalin! Oh, my! That was Raunchy.
[QUOTE=sabina]Wondering how people handle going out at night when they are coming down from their meds...especially after feeling okay all day and then some of the unwanted stuff resurfaces..take the meds later in the day? [/QUOTE]
Well, if it's friday or saturday, go zone in a comfortable setting. I like concerts, loud music, dashing and dancing, prancing and vixens, comets and cupids, dawners and Blitzing...
But, if you recall, the most famous coping of all,
Rudolph the Red-Nosed ReindeerHad a very shiny noseAnd if you ever saw himYou would even say it glows All of the other reindeerUsed to laugh and call him namesThey never let poor RudolphJoin in any reindeer games
Because he was ADD
On a serious note, Dalk makes me take Ritalin at night so I can focus on my wife and kids. Wondering how people handle going out at night when they are coming down from their meds...especially after feeling okay all day and then some of the unwanted stuff resurfaces..take the meds later in the day? I had the same problem. I work and am a full time student in med school. I need sixteen hours coverage, at least, and my Adderall XR gave me about eight. My doc and I finally agreed to add 10mg of regular Adderall in the evening. It helps to stretch out the actions of the first dose, plus it gives me a little dosing flexibility. I can take an extra one if I need it or take it as late as I need to to meet the needs of my schedule.
I do that when I have classes at night at school.
I take mine later so that it will be wearing off about the end of the class. There's a trade off, however, you lose a little production time in the am
It just depends what your goals are for the day, I guess.
Sherry
[QUOTE=shakespeare]I had the same problem. I work and am a full time student in med school. I need sixteen hours coverage, at least, and my Adderall XR gave me about eight. My doc and I finally agreed to add 10mg of regular Adderall in the evening. It helps to stretch out the actions of the first dose, plus it gives me a little dosing flexibility. I can take an extra one if I need it or take it as late as I need to to meet the needs of my schedule. [/QUOTE]
For sure! Hey, shakespeare, in case you read this, & forgive me if I already forgot, how many times do I take the Rat Brains-Itidine/Ranitidine (1/2 hr before Adderall 5mg 4x a day)--like how long does it last?
Master Mind, you're on the board!!!!...I've been writing you a tome, I think I need to edit it as my pms has made me go blonk, right down and I don't want to be like that.I'll cut and sendWhat about dexedrine, does anyone take a supplemental dexedrine later in the day for when the Adderall wears off? I happen to have some of those hanging around
Hello Sabina:
I was recently switched from taking:
40-60 mg of Adderall p/day @ 20 mg per dose, occasionally I might do half of a tablet if I didn't need as much of the meds on board
to
40-60 mg @ 15 mg per dose and occasionally doing half a tablet when I am working in the evenings or don't need to focus for as long
This new regime has has been much better for me in terms my level of focus and my ability to hang with teaching exercise classes around 4 or 5 PM after having been up and running since 5 AM. I needed something that could sustain me through a pretty grueling schedule that undergoes frequent changes and where I travel from one place to another either teaching group exercise or doing personal training.
I also have a learning disorder. By taking a small dose about half hour to an hour before I teach, I've been able to completely annihalate the problems that I have which are associated with it:-))
The difference can be profound when you are dialed into a schedule/dosage that works. Whenever I forget to take the meds, I'm right back into the throes of dealing with my old learning disordered patterns of thinking and communicating.
If your doc isn't receptive to your situation, try another. My current medication schedule was prescribed by my second doc...the first was not very open to trying different things so I traded her in for someone else. I decided that I've suffered for 40 years with Add and the LD and I don't want to waste time working with a doc who doesn't take my best interests into consideration. There is too much positive out there waiting to happen by finding solutions that work. That's just my take on the matter though.
Taking half of a tablet has also helped to reduce some of the rebound effects I was experiencing on the other regime. I also use them in the am with a strategy I worked out that helps me to get up earlier and without being in a fog until around noon. My dosages vary b/c my work schedule is subject to such frequent changes. As a result, my doc has been flexibile in terms of how I adjust my dosages. This has worked out very well for me.
Hope this helps and that you are able to find something that works. Keep us all posted on your progress:-)) MM
[QUOTE=shakespeare]I had the same problem. I work and am a full time student in med school. I need sixteen hours coverage, at least, and my Adderall XR gave me about eight. My doc and I[/QUOTE]
Hey, you are the doc...
[QUOTE=shakespeare]I had the same problem. I work and am a full time student in med school. I need sixteen hours coverage, at least, and my Adderall XR gave me about eight. My doc and I finally agreed[/QUOTE]
Hmmmmm, coming to grips with your MPD, eh?
Ooooooppps, should read
"MD"
Sabina:Just saw your post. I can relate to the PMS and "blonking", especially after the meds wear off!
BTW, if we're talking about the same thing, we call it "bonking" in Albania. Is it "blonking" in Canada...or is that the PMS kicking in (HA HA)?!
Isn't it amazing how all these things can have such a strong effect on one's brain chemistry?!
Master Mind38625.0303125I'm brand new to the world of Adderall. I've found the different dosage variations mentioned on this board very insightful. My doctor rx'd me Adderall-xr20mg after our first visit (3 wks ago), and scheduled a follow-up with her 2 weeks later. I work in the medical field during the nights, (6pm-6am) and I found that the affects did not last much longer than 8 hours for me at 20mg. I just had my 2 week follow-up this past Friday, and I explained to her that this dosage wasn't lasting through-out my 12 hour shift, but worked very well. She bumped my dose up to 25mg-xr and it seems to last a little longer, but not much. Adderall has really improved my ability to function in every possible way. I'm on my third week with Adderall now, and it really does feel like I've missed out on the past 29 years of my life!
Dan
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