Maybe somebody already said this. Couldn't get through all 10 pages to check.
I suspect it has something to do with the change in seasons. I find that I invariably perk up in the spring and start to crash in the fall. When you think about it, that makes good sense. People (although we seem to like to forget it) are just another part of nature.
I'm starting to learn how, however, to use my human affinitiy (another part of human nature) for predictability and the familiar to override this fall crashing business by sticking to new routines I've begun. So far, knock on wood, seems to be working pretty well.
http://www.sec.noaa.gov/sxi/index.html
Woo-hoo!
That reminds me of why no-KnADDs have such a hard time with me.
Their brain's on fire!!!
HJey! See the man in moon in the sun's face???
Oh darn! You got me so excited I posted in black.i def see the profile of a face with a rather evil halloween-type grin to it too. The spots in the pic david posted are the bright spots in the picture, caused by magnetic " looping" where an area of the sun appears dark in visible light . This photo was likely taken in the ultraviolet/x-ray spectrum > 300angstroms.hey but can i have another link?[QUOTE=chjones]hey it wouldn't let me post! said "no spamming allowed" and i've posted too much! the cheek of it.
no i've never seen the Northern Lights. would love to one day, tho.
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Hey, what'd ya do? I'm getting spam slammed too. Just kidding. Not your blame.
Okay. Back to the thread that got me soo excited.
Never?!! I'd love to show them to you one day, too.
First and last time I ever saw them, it was at night.
And woo-hoo, they were amazing. I thought it was
a car's headlights coming around the mountain.
But it wasn't. Then they started moving, like dancing.
And changing colors. All before my very eyes.
magnetic looping??? cool. i'm just considering that maybe the world isn't flat after all.... so you know where i'm coming from![QUOTE=chjones]i def see the profile of a face with a rather evil halloween-type grin to it too. [/QUOTE]
Yeah, I know. It reminded me of shrim or orgasm the other day. Darn! What I wouldn't have done for that then...
but where did you see them - and when. i thought you had to be up in the Arctic Circle or something? Northern(and southern ) lights have been found on all planets with an atmosphere. Depending on the strength of a solar flare , they can be seen as far south as tennessee and parts of tejas.repairman38638.9729050926[QUOTE=repairman]The spots in the pic david posted are the bright spots in the picture, caused by magnetic " looping" where an area of the sun appears dark in visible light . This photo was likely taken in the ultraviolet/x-ray spectrum > 300angstroms.[/QUOTE]
Hey, that sounded intelligent!
OMG!...There IS life on Mars!!!
Too bad they dont have green smileys on board
[QUOTE=repairman]Northern(and southern ) lights have been found on all planets with an atmosphere. Depending on the strength of a solar flare , they can be seen as far south as tennessee and parts of tejas.[/QUOTE]
Hey, where'd that come from?
Hey, that sounded intelligent!
OMG!...There IS life on Venus!!!
I sorta got bored and read an astronomy textbookit did it again![QUOTE=chjones]but where did you see them - and when. i thought you had to be up in the Arctic Circle or something? [/QUOTE]
Well, Ripley's beleive it or not, I saw them in Spokane, Washington, in like October.
JES cause i'm nuts don't mean stupid, just crazee
i post too slow. obviously. i blame the spam blocker.
Oh Wow ---- That is soo cool......never seen the Northern lights......I'm in smack damn middle of tenn-uh-see.......I can't say I ever really looked...we get what we call "heat lightning" is that even kind of what you're talking about ..I know NOTHING about the atmosphere...I do a lot of camping.....looking at the stars, am generally an outdoorsy type........what do I look for ??
Kimbo
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Too bad they dont have green smileys on board
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Who says they don't???
well dancing car lights according to Davido would be a start.... (that doesn't mean getting pissed adn then trying to drive home btw
)
http://www.sec.noaa.gov/sxi/latest.htmlYour best bet is to get away from the smog(Cal) and into the mountains/prairies. Away from large cities with light pollution, desert is a good place because of vewry few clouds. Also listen out on the news for solar flare warnings, the lights are a diacharge from charged particles from the sun striking the Van - Allen radiation belts( ionized gases trapped by earths magnetic field)where's them aliens tho. that's what i want to know. green
planets are all fine and all but what we want to know is where's them
aliens living and what do they look like!
How'd we get from ADHD to astronomy/northern lights?
Hey! Can you see those little blue squares with little red x squares in their upper left corner? That's not what northern lights look like...
You guys are up way too late, it's 2:30 in the morning!
" taking over the world. But we need supplements to keep our memory functioning
[QUOTE=repairman]Your best bet is to get away from the smog(Cal) and
into the mountains/prairies. Away from large cities with light
pollution, desert is a good place because of vewry few clouds. Also
listen out on the news for solar flare warnings, the lights are a
diacharge from charged particles from the sun striking the Van - Allen
radiation belts( ionized gases trapped by earths magnetic field)[/QUOTE]
No, you can predict when they'll be seen. It's dependent on solar storms.
I predict you can see one when the shrim in the sun turns it's face to the earth, and Jupiter lines up with Mars, and the Venus shines in the 4th quarter, with a touchdown by Joe, Montana.
Northern Maine. Maybe Canada. Just came down to get the husband and saw I left myself logged in here . . . aha. so when's the next one predicted to be? well g'nite then.
anyway . . I'm off to bed again. Nite everyone.
If you watch the nasa site under solar weather, they have a forecast of sunspot activity. They track solar weather to help protect satellites from damaging overloads. If you can tell the "space people" are turning the sats. to protect them,you have about 6 to 8 hours to find a good spot to watch.Hei Hei,
Clean out your mailbox...
that was for heidi (the g'nite i mean)


That spot has already passed and will be 24 days b4 it returns to point at us.
Cripes, I was sitting here earlier this evening depressed thinking no one loved me! How come my inbox didn't say it was full . . . ehhh well . . . Nite D'o . . you guys have a lovely evening. :Product: Solar Region Summary :Issued: 2005 Oct 14 0033 UTC # Prepared jointly by the U.S. Dept. of Commerce, NOAA, # Space Environment Center and the U.S. Air Force. # Joint USAF/NOAA Solar Region Summary SRS Number 287 Issued at 0030Z on 14 Oct 2005 Report compiled from data received at SWO on 13 Oct I. Regions with Sunspots. Locations Valid at 13/2400Z Nmbr Location Lo Area Z LL NN Mag Type 0814 S13W31 228 0010 Axx 01 01 Alpha IA. H-alpha Plages without Spots. Locations Valid at 13/2400Z Oct Nmbr Location Lo 0813 S08W88 286 II. Regions Due to Return 14 Oct to 16 Oct Nmbr Lat Lo Nonenot a good month for sunspotsG'nite, Hei Hei!
Darn that spam blocker! My alter had to say g'nite, Hei Hei!
fine.
,poor little thing! 
Solar flares appear as spikes in the plot. The flares are classified according to their peak intensity and categorized as C, M, or X class. Class M5 or greater are considered major events. The largest event yet recorded was an X28 which occurred at 19:50 UT Nov 4, 2003. The following graph shows flare events which have occurred within the last 5 days.
OMG!...It's happening tonight!!! Run outside and look...
You really need an X 20 or above to get a good display down to thesouthern states,An X-28+ hit 2yrs ago and cooked a japanese comm.sat. (wonder how they taste) SOHO was blinded by the intensity and the report i read said it could've been as high as X-40+repairman38638.9948842593yeah well i def blame the sunspots then... very bad for ADDers productivity levels. DSL Speed for Dial upOoops, wrong graph...
so any X20s on the horizon (as it were?). spamming for DSL????? you moonlighting as a sales rep for internet access? They usually don't happen except in the peak of sunspot activity. the flare two years ago was a fluke . there should be flares starting in the next 2-3 years and peak in bbout 5 years 2009/2010.repairman38638.9973726852The Japanese are communists??? Why would they have a commie satelite? Shoot, what're we gonna call them? Not commies, not Chi-comms, not Americommies, nor Cannuckicommies, how about Japunists? hmmm. well i guess i'll just have to wait until i am in more Northern climes then. you can see it regularly up in Finland etc. can't you??? Jah, where they have the flukes...
ok. --- man, i've gotta crash. thanks for the crash course in
sunspot info etc. etc. still don't have it quite right but i guess i
can google it. see ya!
"i didn't know my test equipment was from japan? Next thing ya know , they'll be taking over the cartoon network

. you'll notice that the lines around the image of a forming magnetic loop looks just like iron filings sticking to a magnet.
[QUOTE=repairman]OOOHH!!! Glad ya didn't MOON us
. you'll notice that the lines around the image of a forming magnetic loop looks just like iron filings sticking to a magnet.[/QUOTE]
You're a sick puppie.






woo-hoo! how was that for timing???!!!...
BUT it DOES look like magnetic filings and i am a sick puppie and thank god that didn't have a crack in it
Heeeheee-
Davido - sorry, I tried that, the sex thing, it doesn't work....hahahaha..But it was fun trying........
..........J/K
I have a LOT of allergies, too, hives and sinus probelms, a touch of asthma....
My dd does, too. She also has ADD....she takes Zyrtec and Singulair. I take Allegra (rx) and Claritin and Benadryl when I have a REALLY bad attack of hives. (UGGGHHH)
I had 5 sinus infections last year. It seems like I have one every Christmas or New Years.
Kimberly
OK-- That is a great idea...I hate those "planner" things...TOO much detail...I like the idea of a notebook...simple...Thanks !! Kimberly
Kimberly, what I meant was that people like to have predictability in their lives. A former colleague once told me that I was consistently inconsistent! The inconsistency or "spontaneity" (choose either "spaces" or "dots" - hee hee) is what's predictable for us and what forms our pattern.
I used to get up and before I knew it, my day had simply slipped away. No planning, no routine. Sometimes I'd get lucky and get a lot done--but no rhyme or rhythm when those days would come.
In August I almost died. Literally. A lot of it could be directly traced back to my affinity for my "spontaneous" existence. But was it worth my life? NOT! So now I have created some new routines.
Depending on how early I wake up, I allow myself some play time. Often that means coming here or otherwise messing around on the computer. But before 9, I do my "to do" list. I've chosen to simply hand write it on 3-hole paper and then stick them in a 3-ring binder. That way I can easily flip the page over for notes, phone numbers, etc. Seems to be working well for me. That list provides the structure for my day now.
What's coolest is that I DO NOT feel hemmed in by it like I thought I would. What a revelation! I feel like it's me, not my ADD that's in control of my life--if that makes sense. In fact, I start to feel "antsy" if I don't do my list pretty soon after beginning my day and that antsiness helps keep me doing it. That's what I mean by letting my natural human nature need for the familiar work on my behalf.
The hardest part is the motivation to change routines and patterns. Near death did it for me, but I wouldn't advise attempted suicide (not what happened to me--bad side-effects from chemo) as a way to provide that kind of motivation! (Trying to be funny here but may have failed miserably! )
Glen, from what you said about cycling, that sounds a little more like bi-polar than AD(H)D but I don't know enough about the differences to say with confidence. Are you seeing a doctor who might know? I think they prescribe different drugs for bi-polar cycling than for either ADHD or ADD.
In keeping w/ people's encouragement for you to write, maybe you could start out by journeling or blogging??? That might give you more data regarding your cycles, too. Just a thought.
sachetm38640.3591435185Hey ChicxOr,
x0ri've been thinking about the cycles idea.
cycle infers a more or less predictable pattern.
much of what i experience is not predictable.
there is no time frame, or seasonality to it. not that i can see.
i am curious though as to why some days i'm not so bad, and others i can't make myself do what i need to.
more often than not, on 'those' days, i can't function on willpower regardless of the consequences if i fall short. on some of those days failure seems so inevitable, i just get furious and say, no scream, 'sc**w it! that's all you get!'
[/QUOTE]i see a big diff. btwn bipolar and adhd now.
chicxor and sachetm pointed it out.
my adhd overdrive works on my emotions too. get a little low, and overshoot. feel good, and it carries through a little. now is everything.
impulse regulation shot, therefore, get carried away with mood-based impulses.
poor self-esteem makes lows lower and more likely too.
sometimes i'm in a good mood for no apparent reason. this is how i imagine regular folks are most of the time. being so prone to depression, low or cautious about my mood is how i am most of the time.
my good moods might appear to the uninformed, or those that know my lows, as manic, esp b/c of the adHd. but i never go out and buy ,000.00 worth of inflatable beach balls, or have sex w/20 women in a week (tho it sounds fun), or try to get on t.v. claiming i've got the answer to world peace, if only you'll make me your emperor.
thx for the insight ladies!
"Moodiness" in relation to AD(H)D makes perfect sense. Thoughts and feelings are integrally connected--moreso when the executive function isn't working so hot.
Therefore, if attention shifts, so do ones typical emotions ("moods") that have been associated with the current thoughts. Seems a logical conclusion.
It then becomes a question of how bi-polar and AD(H)D really ARE different and how they're the same. Wasn't there an ADD shrink around here for awhile--ADDMD or something like that? I remember there was but he mostly lurked. Maybe if he's still here and sees this he might clarify--at least what the DSMIV has to say about it if its not his forte.
I have to go back to my own shrink for this reason but too many higher priority medical things going on at the moment and that one is on the back burner.
I do know that since I was diagnosed (or misdiagnosed as the case may be) as being bi-polar, I've gotten MUCH better at managing my moods, am rarely depressed now and when I am, they don't last long. Now that my counselor (LCSW) has suggested ADD and shrink thinks it MAY really be that and not bi-polar (although we need follow-up), AND I've started to understand more about ADD, am slowly getting better at managing that, too.
Point is that at least in my case, awareness is half the battle. Thank God the brain is as flexible as it is and you really CAN change the patterns if you make the effort. Meds just make it easier, but it's possible without them. (I have heart failure so ADD meds not recommended for me.) Just harder and probably takes long, would be my guess. Never underestimate the power of motivation!
Oh, yeah! Sorry all. That's what this thread was all about. How ADD of us.Sachetm-
I don't think anybody has said that yet. You make a great point and I totally agree. I have always been that way. I sometimes feel like I have 2 personalities, a summer one and a winter one, hahhaa. It's not that drastic, but I definitely feel different. And like you, I know what to do about it now. I stress out so badly at Christmas. I have to "coach" myself through it and tell myself that everything is OK and it will be over and I will have a good time seeing relatives, etc..and no one is going to remember what we got them for Christmas come April. I made myself get my entire house clean before Christmas last year and it helped IMMENSELY.......I felt like it was OK for us to take pics, cause there was no messes in the background.....etc......and then once it is over, I can look forward to spring and summer, the "fun" months. I think I correlate Fall with school..... I hated school and didn't do well until my high school years....and I correlate spring and summer with vacations and going camping and going out in the boat, etc...
That's great that you have found a way to deal with the "crashing". Can you share?? Thanks,
Kimberly
cycles is a bit rigid a concept - but it has typical frequencies - much like the weather. And like weather - you can't ever get a 100 percent forecast - but you can measure the trends. For me - it was 3 months give or take a couple months. Now that I know and I'm forewarned (and forearmed), I keep my wits up and get ready for the next onslaught. I reckon it to the old attacks by mongols - you couldn't predict it to the day (that would be no fun), but you always knew it was soon and you could rally the troops. I make sure to keep up on my meds - and to get the rest I sorely need. If I do - all goes well. If not - boy I pay and all around me!!i've been thinking about the cycles idea.
cycle infers a more or less predictable pattern.
much of what i experience is not predictable.
there is no time frame, or seasonality to it. not that i can see.
i am curious though as to why some days i'm not so bad, and others i can't make myself do what i need to.
more often than not, on 'those' days, i can't function on willpower regardless of the consequences if i fall short. on some of those days failure seems so inevitable, i just get furious and say, no scream, 'sc**w it! that's all you get!'
back to the northern lights- you have to be closer to the north pole to see them. i don't think your chances are good the further you are from the arctic circle.
.........OK.......thanks for the info !!!!!
I was wondering why they hadn't mentioned it during the weather segment of the local news...
Kimberly
SlugBug38641.7486921296okay for those few of us that are still struggling along unmedicated here....Hey There-
You're not alone !! I feel that way sometimes. Not as often now that I'm taking Adderall. I've been putting off checking my PO box. We get our regular household mail at home, but we get the business mail at the PO. We closed our business in June and I have only checked our PO box 2 times the past 2 months !! I know it's just bills in there. I just cannot force myself to look at them..I just can't deal with it right now..Like you said.........
I am like that about a lot of things....I usually have a "brave" day and psyche myself up for it and do all the "bad" things I need to do, but I really have to work at it....and keep telling myself it's not so bad, just get it done, etc!!! it is excruciatingly hard to do.....One thing that I keep telling myself is "this is the only "bad" thing going on right now"..."If I can take care of THIS, then everything else is not so bad"......do you kind of "count" the things you need to take care of ? and think that once you get them straightened out then you can start "fresh" and your life will be all right and you won't ever let it get "bad" again , but just end up repeating the cycle 'cause you couldn't "force" yourself to do one easy thing that would have prevented all of this mess in the first place, but you were too lazy???(OK, NOT lazy, but you KWIM) This is driving me nutz....chjones...is this kind of what you're talking about ?? But you just can't bring yourself to deal with ANY of it.....just blowing it off for a while...I know exactly how you feel.....The Adderall is helping..not perfect but better......
I have NO idea how come it cycles like that ..but it does...with me, anyway.....I'm not bi-ploar or depressed (yet) just ADD, so I don't know about that...
Kimberly
yup - that's it...



Van Allen Belts. Sounds like a rock band to me.
Here, I'll go find us a link.
hey it wouldn't let me post! said "no spamming allowed" and i've posted too much! the cheek of it.
.histamine huh? Hmmm.. Jack Handey moment here....
Well, I do take Flonase for allergies at my work. We have cardboard all over, and the resulting dust leaves me sniffling and congested. I can't take normal antihistamines (big no-no on dex) so the flonase does the job.
Histamine - wow that's wild. I'll check it out - thanks phony doc!!!
hey repairmanhistamine huh? Hmmm.. Jack Handey moment here....
Well, I do take Flonase for allergies at my work. We have cardboard all over, and the resulting dust leaves me sniffling and congested. I can't take normal antihistamines (big no-no on dex) so the flonase does the job.
Histamine - wow that's wild. I'll check it out - thanks phony doc!!!
[/QUOTE]i grew up in michigan. saw northern lights many times. they're beautiful. green swirls in the sky.
cycling- yes. cycles are different.
some cycles are recognised by unreasonable crankiness. short tempered, tempted to throw and break things. unrelenting angry thoughts. impatience.
some cycles are like chjones- can't face the world at all! can't take calls, discuss business, won't leave the house for days( or longer if i can get away with it).
some cycles, like now, cannot stay on task. brain even goes blank the harder i try to focus. i've had more work recently, and am struggling to keep after it. 5-10 mins. of work, then 5-10 mins. of walking in circles fighting urge to leave the job, or start something new before finishing what i am doing.
i like lots of this adhd, but it does get in the way of making a living/getting ahead.
like lots of this adhd, but it does get in the way of making a living/I know what has been said here about the "cycling" of ADHD unmedicated really well. I even have a good rythym figured out when it's bad.
Normall - it cycles good to bad every 3 months. I could talk - be "happy" to the unwashed masses and it would be ok. My gf (if I hadn't miffed her off again) would be reasonably happy with me and I would be content with the status quo.
at the end of 3 months though (I have been able to count it down to almost exactly to the day) things would begin to shatter again. I would become self destructive, the forgetfulness and bad behavior came back to wreck what took the last months to rebuild.
It happened over and over - for most of my life. There was an even longer duration phase too - every 2 years I found that I would become so antisocial and problem-causing that I would tear up my personal life like a wet tissue. That I always feared - it was something I didn't understand but I knew inside that it was coming.
I still feel the cycling on meds - has happened 2 times now. I end up lacking energy and hearing the chatter louder than normal. I don't mess up though - I've been keeping up on my meds and working hard at unlearning the bad habits that harmed me so much. Now I just count down the days - and soon after it begins it's gone!
I hope they'll figure out if this is a part of the ADHD - maybe a natural rythym of life that gets messed up by us even more. Interesting to know.