Stop the Trolls | ADHD Information
Yes auntie, but sometimes they just put up some horribly WRONG info. and sometimes they just wander onto real posts and just obliterate. . post after post.It drives me crazy to see information put here as a deception to the reality , pardon the pun, of the situation.
and i just can't help myself...
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Please stop posting on the Trolls threads. They keep them to the top and this makes more crap that newbies have to go through!
Please, you are doing more harm than good by debating with those Trolls.
God, I know bugzappers. I'd like to strangle their scrawney stupid little necks sometimes. I do understand how you can't stay away. I had to stop reading their crap because I thought I'd have a stroke if I got any madder.
I'll understand if ya can't stay away. Don't cry.
Just watch your blood pressure.
zappers - it cant work dont you know - there is nothing wrong with us
Seriously you do well trying to cut them down but they are here hoping to pressure someone who isn't strong enough to handle their bs - thankfully there are enough troll killers here to try and push them back and put the important stuff at the tops of all the boards - BTW - did you know coffee kills
And where is the Administration. I sure wish they had someone who was really on top of things.
Maybe we need a room below the basement where the "anti- med there is no such thing as ADHD" could go post all their garbage. A special Troll room.
[QUOTE=bugzappers]It is a good board, but if the admins would WAKE UP, it would be GREAT.
The purpose of the board is posted.
lets adhere to the rules and remove some posts.
sigh.
oh well, back to the salt mines.
Reality, we now have a brain check at the door, if you don't posess such an item, maybe you can rent one from adhdisbogus.
He is not using his either and probably could use the money since his people skills are terrible, and could mean he is unemployed.
Curus has some to offer too. He cuts and pastes so much, it is hard to tell what is his, and what is yours.
sorry auntie.. just a joke...
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I like you Bugzapper person!
He lives for the fight. He wants it. It is almost like he is one that is here more often than not. So I voted for pastmember, past member has more posts than anyone in adhd land,, look at the books forum, and more topics that vary, like the trolls.
I may be wrong, but I usually am not. I will hold that thought though, auntie has declared that there is no way it could be bren.
I will heed her, but I am still skeptical. sorry auntie. but I will hold onto my thought, jest fer you
Is it a he? YES. I can tell. Most women drop issues like this, and refuse to fight for days and days. Men are dumb and will battle forever. He also may have adhd but is in denial....
age? probably older than you think.
troll, yes, he wants you to email him, you compromise your email to him, he looses nothing. and spams you or harasses you.
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[QUOTE=sdw227]It is kind of hard not to reply. I actually think he...ie, reality, wants us to reply to his post. That just keeps others from reading information that would be valuable for them. It keeps them reading his agenda. It's sad really. It would be a great thing to have a forum of people in situations that want to discuss their problems with each other. Instead we have an "outsider" that does not know how to address the issues...ie, from experience... This could be a good board if only the people who are dealing with the reality of adhd participated.[/QUOTE]
sdw227 - it is a good board and you wil see some of us try to bump up topics to keep the trolls down - look for topics started and/or answered by some of the more senior members and you will see they dont get sucked into the bs as much - ask your own questions and post your stories that is really why you came here and it is why despite the trolls most of us stay - this place is good for us - dont let them drag you down.
auntie - been trying to help keep up down but man this group has been especailly persiistent and reporting them does not seem to be working - oh well...........
Hmm, maybe we could make a bridge and the trolls could live under it. no, we probably would get sued by a publisher or author. hmmmI got it, WE could make some troll house cookies and throw them into the keebler elves tree, and when they go after the cookies, we could cut the tree down and send it over niagra falls like a barrel. no, too much work.. sigh.. I wish my adderall was working now..
bugzappers38659.859525463It is a good board, but if the admins would WAKE UP, it would be GREAT.
The purpose of the board is posted.
lets adhere to the rules and remove some posts.
sigh.
oh well, back to the salt mines.
Reality, we now have a brain check at the door, if you don't posess such an item, maybe you can rent one from adhdisbogus.
He is not using his either and probably could use the money since his people skills are terrible, and could mean he is unemployed.
Curus has some to offer too. He cuts and pastes so much, it is hard to tell what is his, and what is yours.
sorry auntie.. just a joke...
Question if they are being reported can't the administrators delete them so newcomes do not ge sucked in or even scared away?
[QUOTE=sdw227]It is kind of hard not to reply. I actually think he...ie, reality, wants us to reply to his post. That just keeps others from reading information that would be valuable for them. It keeps them reading his agenda. It's sad really. It would be a great thing to have a forum of people in situations that want to discuss their problems with each other. Instead we have an "outsider" that does not know how to address the issues...ie, from experience... This could be a good board if only the people who are dealing with the reality of adhd participated.[/QUOTE]
Of course the Troll wants you to reply. That keeps their agenda on front page and at the top. I say if one person gives a good rebuttle then leave it at that. I know Bugzappers does a geat job as do many others. Or we just need to start a totally new topic with the rebuttle.
I am guilty also of putting my 2 cents in, I undestand how hard it is to ignore them rather then prove them wrong. And they are wrong 99% of the time.
I just want them to go away!
I have said it before Ignore them they will eventually leave. They see they are hitting nerves with people and that keeps them it is what they are after. The more people fight with them they are loving every minute of it and will continue. It is also apparent they know whose buttons to push and what buttons to push and are using that to stir their sh-t pot.
Brent or PastmemberBren is harmless.
And I must be DEAD because I've been drinking coffee since I a wee tot. I am the Ghost of Auntie.
maybe not the same person, but together to disrupt with another.
the adhd forum in the uk does not allow od and death and other posts. they enforce it. and when a troll does post, they all join together and post on the board, in unison about not spreading rumors. It is great. like 30 of them band together.
http://www.addforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=228 92
bugzappers38661.6013194444It is too bad that the sites they ALL post about are owned by scientologists.
look them up. www.whois.com
I have noticed that they avoid this post like the plague.
ALL OF THEM.
Actually, I even PM'd balancedreality and thanked him for calming down. I told him he had good information, but had been presenting it in an offensive fashion, and thanked him for actually trying to be friends with us. Since then, he has been back at full-throttle. Evidently, the change was skin-deep. Once a troll, always a troll... so sayeth the bard.hmmm, I see we learned a new word today...idjits. How many handles are you actually going to post under? It's kind of like multiple personalities.
hello idjit who blames the parents
http://adhdnews.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13733&PN=1 &TPN=1
i post under my own id
just because i cant type it does not mean i cant think. hipocrite.
sweetie, lighten up! you might pop a blood vessel! you obviously misconstrue comments. don't worry, that small problem might go away when you grow up. there is still hope after all!!Thanks - it was nothin
was good 
liked it.grow up. have dislexia. i cant type. you blame me and you blame add parents not docs who have education
http://adhdnews.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13733&PN=1 &TPN=1
OH! The trolls say there's no ADDThey must be on LSD
Trolly stay away from me
ho ho ho he he
sorry Wanted to up my posts too.
Personally, I'm not afraid of them posting here. I think it is good. Let others read their idiodic posts and come to their own conclusions.
If you read their posts and everyone else's, it is clear as the nose on your face that they have some sort of agenda, and it is not helping other people cope with ADHD. I love reality's answer to why she or he doesn't post alternatives. "Just e-mail me." I wouldn't start e-mailing her or him. Can you imagine how much stuff they would send you!!!
I think that people should be able to see all sides of an issue. Reality and the other TROLLS post the exteme for not taking meds. That is an option. So, let them post away. I have faith in the IQ of all the ADHD and ADD posters here that respond or don't respond. People can think for themselves. If a newbie reads only the post of reality and then leaves the board in tears crying about the dilemma of it all, I would be surprised.
What I believe happens is the opposite. Newbies can see through the ridiculousness of reality and other trolls posts and they keep on reading.
So, don't worry so much about these trolls. They are doing a job and doing so badly that they educate people in their own way. It would be better for them to not post at all, in my opinion. I think all the posts they make drive people to look for answers that actually make sense.
you trolls do post badly and we readers can see through you all.
http://adhdnews.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13733&PN=1 &TPN=1
trolls that post here and blame parents.
[QUOTE=dks496]you trolls do post badly and we readers can see through you all.
http://adhdnews.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13733&PN=1 &TPN=1
trolls that post here and blame parents.
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Who are you and why have the only posts you've made been about chasing out trolls?
Tater38668.8700462963Hola Anni, You are probably right but it get so very frustrating because they
JUST DON'T LISTEN!!! Their microscopic ears are filled with marshmellows. I have had this terribly painful experience personaly where I have stated a fact about my adult self and am responded to with something even more whack than my responses.
And what is that link for in all your replies?
Countrygirl38668.8808912037changed my mind [QUOTE=Tater]
And what is that link for in all your replies?
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how about you look at it yourself. click on it. easy to do. that is a troll.
sdw blames parents. not docs.
[QUOTE=Countrygirl]Hola Anni, You are probably right but it get so very frustrating because they
JUST DON'T LISTEN!!! Their microscopic ears are filled with marshmellows. I have had this terribly painful experience personaly where I have stated a fact about my adult self and am responded to with something even more whack than my responses.
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its your fault. sdw says so.
http://adhdnews.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13733&PN=1 &TPN=1
blame the parents.
[QUOTE=dks496][QUOTE=Tater]And what is that link for in all your replies?
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how about you look at it yourself. click on it. easy to do. that is a troll.
sdw blames parents. not docs.
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I don't do these troll threads but YOU are obviously no newbie here....and I don't need an education on TROLLS.
[QUOTE=Countrygirl]OH! The trolls say there's no ADD
They must be on LSD
Trolly stay away from me
ho ho ho he he
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Forgot to take my meds today
Everything was not ok
Actions have a price to pay
ho ho ho hay hay!!!
seems thats what sdw is saying. your fault.
http://adhdnews.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13733&PN=1 &TPN=1
blames me for not ty[ping well too somewhere else. i have dislexia but she blamed me for that.
tater im not new your right. ive been reading here a longt time. new posting is all.eeee gaaddss!!Oh, we think that it's all your fault
In your wounds, we pour salt
Adderall I will exalt
Ho ho ho he he
like your poem
it's off to hunt more trolls.
You posted that? You dirty rat!
I'll get you back.
Hi ho, Hi ho, Hi hoooooo.
bugzappers38669.4254398148
Forgive me Bugzappers for I have sinned
Against that which I preach,
The Trolls, they broke my set resolve
to never speak nor read.
My fingers took to typing fast
before my brain kicked in
And pressed the button Post Repy.
Forgive me I have sinned.
[QUOTE=dks496]tater im not new your right. ive been reading here a longt time. new posting is all.[/QUOTE]
May I just say that you are feeding the trolls...they love people like you that get all riled up about the things they post. As long as you keep playing with them, them will come. The main purpose of a troll is to get a rise out of people.....they are suceeding.
That's why I don't do troll threads.....I'm sick of so much bandwidth being used up for this junk.
Please.
I did. The last post I read from reality was about dna profiling and it's application to help reduce ineffective prescriptions (which can only be a positive thing).The reduction of the argument to pro/con removes most people from the argument - for instance: I am anti-medication for pretty much everything, Im a typical guy raised in a pretty typical country upbringing - vitamins and supplements are the only thing needed unless you cut off a limb (and then you use duct tape). My struggle with treatment was a question of survival - no meds == no Fallen (at least, no Fallen's life, family, job, money, existence). So the risk/benefit analysis was pretty simple at the end of the day :-) It's also why Im pretty anti-meds for younger kids with ADD unless they present a risk to themselves or others - any parent claiming an ADD kid without an official diagnosis needs to be shot, kids will be kids, grades mean nothing, regardless of how large they seem to the child and the parents. Me am a dropowt and it has nevah impakded my lyfe.
I didn't. Last post I read from reality twisted me to be a bad guy. such a lie.
And I caught reality in a lie.
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First I'd like to say: Brent, I have yelled at you and have gotten very frustrated and downright angry and mean to you and can't promise I won't loose my temper again but I am about to stick up for you and I hope you will forgive me for talking about you out in the open this way but I am doing so because I don't think you should be banned from this forum.
Bugzappers: I really disagree with you. Brent has been around a long time and never attacked anybody for what they believe. He is just a mellow simple guy (frustrating sometimes) who just states what is on his mind at present, no long thought out plan or agenda.
I think you are seeing things that aren't there because you want to see them. Right now, you have an agenda. Their writing style, punctuation couldn't be more different. (I really disagree in that respect)
Sure, they happen to be reading the same propaganda but the truth is, I agree with a few (very few) of the things Curus and Brent and Balanced have said and that doesn't make me a Troll or in cahoots with them.
Please keep in mind Brent has been picked on from many members including me. I didn't have a problem with what he was saying, per say, but when he said it or how he said it - meaning I didn't understand - or I felt it was a uneducated satement. It is obvious Brent feels ostracized so when Curus came along, also ostracized and with similar beliefs...he felt he found someone who is like him.
Brent will be here long after our present Trolls have left and will be here when the next round of them come. Brent, in my opinion is no threat to this board and actually discredits Curus more than supports him, if you know what I mean.
Bottom line, Brent may be very misguided in some respects but I see he does care very much for the well being of his child and I do believe that is why he is here. Just my opinion.
I have to agree - brent is definitely NOT a troll. It's a disservice to all of us to put him there. He has his own ideas and I don't always agree but he says it and moves along. He never comes back and tries the old anti-med shuffle - i.e. he doesn't get disagreed with and tries to come back with bulls*it clippings or talk about unrelated meds.
He IS hard to understand sometimes - but so is DavidO (to me anyway), auntie (she'll spin into rhyme and I'm scratching my head), and many others. That's not the same in a bit to the trolls we get.
Some here disagree with meds but they put their alternative out to the group and are satisfied with informing and stopping. Anni has her theory of joint bending thing that makes no sense to me but I respect her right to tell us and that's ok. I am pro whatever it takes to normalize life for our adult and child members - and am disagreed with often. I will protect everyone here with debate, and stand up to the trolls but I usually know when to leave it alone.
The admin here is painfully slow. I have sent messages again and again about the trolls - they take weeks and then I get the premade message "we are looking into this message - thanks for bringing this up to us!" I am not sure what they do with the info but it does seem the trolls quiet down for a while after so maybe something.
I agree with Auntie and Glen. From his posts, I have gathered that Brent is a father from Texas with a son named Daniel, who has ADHD and other assorted alphabet soup dxs. And he is not anti-med because his son is on meds (like Depakote). I also don't always agree with him and find him difficult to understand, but he is a dad who obviously cares about his child and wants to find interventions that work.
Which exactly is why it is usually the last person you would expect.
brent has, motive. he has been ostracized, therefore would feel some vindication of arguing and posting anti things.
brent has opportunity. he always is here
brent has acted suspiciously. changes id's when one is questioned.
brent has same format of posts, ie punctuation and formation as do some others here.
brent has shown a desire to post incessantly in EACH room, there is not a room in which he has not posted, or does not have the leading post during the day. look at the books board.
brent also has the time that it would take to cut and paste and look up these items. He is posting at all hours, and knows all the functions of the boards. which leads me to think that he is highly suspect.
He claims his wife has superior knowledge of these things and that he knows of them as well.
And I said he is possibly not acting alone, but with a partner on this.
Could he be framed? possibly, but when I called attention to the bren, he dumped the pastbren and became past member, hitting 44 posts in one day, which is comparable to the posts he has made with his previous id's.
He mispells alot of the same words, on purpose and on accident that the trolls do, and jumping id's would remove ip trace since he uses diff, id's and emails to sign up.
is there more? yes, but I would have to take a day to type out a profile. and I refuse to do that.
I have heard him claim several names for kids and what not. one has this, then his wife has that. I just have to find all the info. he is a link.
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bug - that's a pretty loose accusation. I prefer the juris prudence - the "innocent until proven guilty" that we in democratic society enjoy.
brent is innocent as far as I can see. If he does have an alternative nickname where he posts - I'll go after him there. But the brent I've seen - no he's not a troll. There's little to gain from having one nick where you go hog wild and troll everyone - and another where you post often (if that's a sign of trolldom why not blame me too?) but post responsibly.
No - give him the benefit of the doubt. Unless there's something very specific you know that you are keeping to yourself bug?
Just the facts, just the facts.
I follow my instincts and go from there.
gosh you would think that this was a hunt for a major terrorist cell!!
personally i really don't care what ppl write - i ignore them and hope they will go away.. and typically they do because they are not given the attention that they crave..
also i believe that debate is healthy and have no qualms in reading anti med posts.. i also read pro med posts and can honestly tell you all that i roll my eyes many times when i read about what some ppl are taking..
am i a troll then?? i don't dismiss the anti meds, but have questioned some pro med statements.. does this make me anti meds??
i also strongly believe that many adhders do not in fact have it, but have another disorder that is affecting them.. does this make me anti adhd??
respect the right to free speech.. we in oz seem to be losing that right with the new draconian anti terror laws that have just been passed.. i would hate to see that happen online..
Bugzappers,
You are totally obsessed with this aren't you? Please, don't waste your time. He is not misspelling things on purpose. I know this is true because you can read it loud and clear his feelings had truly been hurt when someone made fun of his spelling/sentence structure.
He explained why he changed User ID's and many people have had to do the same thing. He has been upfront and honest about it when asked. And he probably changed his username because you reported him. So what. I had to change my user ID once on this site. Guess why, because I couldn't remember my user name or password. There are also people who never could get back on to this board due to some glitch.
His wife has been on here before and expresses herself better and does seem more knowledgable. I don't think he lied about that. And I never saw where he changed his story/names of kids.
I think you are chasing rainbows but have at it. You know my opinion and I'll leave it at that. I am opened minded and will consider any other "proof" if you see fit to share it with us.
[QUOTE=Brookelea]gosh you would think that this was a hunt for a major terrorist cell!!
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The only reason I am even posting is because Bug reported Brent or was going to and I didn't feel Brent deserved to be banned. God only knows why I am fighting for someone who DRIVES ME CRAZY MOST OF THE TIME!
I am sure most of us think that many are over diagnosed, but there is more undiagnosed that have it that won't step forward because of the lies about this not being a "real disorder" . Or fear of being labled.
Then I also don't think anti med posts belong in EVERY board on the site, nor do I think that the debate with outdated information and material of scare or self destruction belongs posted on the board as deathwarning has done along with the other trolls.
I also don't agree that anti adhd belongs in every board either. Or claiming adhd is bogus on the very site that is for us with adhd.
But if one of these people and the freak scare tactics puts one person to start to disbelieve they have adhd, and they really do have this affliction, and live a life with this problem, seemingly fail to recognize it as a disorder and seek help, then our purpose to be here and inform others of what we feel and realize and experience is for nothing.
And I CAN'T LIVE WITH THAT.
So if you want to be anti, start your own board. I am here to let others see how this affects me and maybe they will not have to experience these things as long as I, since maybe they can put a name to what they are feeling using words seen on here, and give a more accurate description to the dr that they rely upon.
If you want to debate, ask the mods for a debate board, the school kids board was made for that. It was asked for and it was placed here for that.
Medicine debates do not belong clustered in a room for someone looking to see if the side effects they are having are common and to feel free to ask, not get slammed and pinned to the floor with people who have no experience with the meds, or let alone have adhd or anything other than an agenda of anti meds.
Then to watch the post get loaded up with nonsense about suicides and death and destruction and general mayhem.
I have no use for curus and others because they cut and paste old disproven "facts" , that usually take up 1 page of the board per post.
bugzappers38661.6793402778i agree that many of these posts do not belong in the med board, but either does this thread..
and yes adhd is overdiagnosed, especially in children.. drs know that, teachers know that, parents know that.. the royal children hospital in melbourne has reversed many adhd dxs and this hospital is considered to be in the top 5 best childrens hospitals in the world.. so obviously they know something..
when i read about some of the drugs children are on, it concerns me, especially when you take into account the overdx of the disorder.. many drs are rash and dx too quickly and medicate just as quick..
and yes i do worry about the long term effects that drugs may have on a developing brain and body.. i'm not criticising parents who medicate their children.. in many cases it is needed.. i just worry about the long term side effects..
i just don't think we should be glamorising meds and making it seem more attractive than it really is.. personally meds and therapy need to go together.. meds on their own do not rid the problems..
and yes i am adhd, was medicated for many years, and have a child who is also adhd..
better to be cautious and careful than to want a quick fix..
i am new here and highly annoyed by "trolls" (i don't know 'net lingo i guess) BUT i just want to point out the humor in asking a bunch of adhd people to restrain themselves when the medium, format and the subject matter just BEG for impulsive retaliations
thus the term 'self control' comes in...we expect our children to adopt this, then we should follow suit
or even better, be role models for our kids!!!
self control? wazzat
Is that like self inflicted? I bet the anti's will love that.
self control - my mantra everyday when i teach!! many times i lose control but not like i once did..
i'm very proud of myself
pity the teachers in the lounge can't understand and think that i am an utter nutcase!!
Bumping cause I want to up my number of posts.
the trolls post here.
idjits.
On the bipolar board I used to go to, they banned these sorts of people. Their thinking was---go chat somewhere else. This is a board for the very real bipolar disorder. I agree with not directly talking to them. On any board that has meds for treatments you are going to get the same tripe from certain Scientologists who are anti-meds. I believe sdw and curus are one and the same, and, for a college kid, she sure doesn't have much of a life if she is spending so much of it here. Since the administration here allows these conversations, best not to talk directly to them. In a way, these trolls are reality! We have to deal with people who don't believe in neurological and psyschiatric disorders all the time and maybe we can practice ignoring them. There will always be those who, even though troubled themselves, want to tell us disorders don't exist. The trolls represent the real world--there are doubters. It doesn't affect the way I treat my bipolar or my son's autism, but it reminds me that people are out there like them and I try to increase awareness of these disorders in my own community. So far, my son, who is a very brave kid, has REALLY helped our small community understand autism, and he is very beloved. He does a lot more than the trolls on the internet that nobody knows and nobody can see. Is there an /ignore features? If so, ignore the trolls and you won't have to even be tempted to read their posts. Have a nice day:)
Bugzappers,
I really do understand how you feel. I hated the tactics of our most recent Trolls. I would get so angry I'd have to get up from the computer and stay away for a while. But not everything they say is flat out incorrect or wrong but they flooded this forum with so many cut and paste articles that it was taking over all topics.
It is so frustrating and wrong for them to post the way they did.
One thing I might add. Balanced (or wait..is it Reality I'm thinking of?) seems to have mellowed a bit. Just wondering if you have noticed?
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