Teen Screen | ADHD Information
Sigh. The strain of the Reality in my life is wearing thin for sure.
9 out of 10 patients get put on meds. Pure garbage.
There are a lot of people getting meds when seeing a psychiatrist. More than the average population for ONE reason only - they go to a psychiatrist because they have a valid concern for their mental health and medications WORK.
Now in defense of the posting on not wanting passive tests of students in high school - I do agree (I know surprise). Going through all students in school would be both a waste of money and a waste of time. Only about 8 kids in 100 need help with ADHD. It would be like the giant nets in the ocean they use - they grab everything off the ocean floor and end up picking up things that aren't going to be what they want. Either way it's a mistake.
Little info about the owner of the page and his views. Come to your own judgements but he is pretty anti-pschiatry.
Ken Kramer, 49, of Clearwater, is a Scientologist and shares Scientology's ardent opposition to psychiatry. He runs a public records research firm and volunteers with the Clearwater branch of Citizens Commission on Human Rights, which was founded by the Church of Scientology in 1969 to expose abuses in psychiatry. I told you xenu was here.. it is posting on the boards...
scientologists..
sdw227,
What would America be like with most of its children on drugs ???
That is what is happening these days... and it's just for the money.
More propeganda.
"Besides that, what the hell does the above posted article have to do with us coming here for ADHD issues we face everyday?"
sdw227,
The article may not be relevant to you but there are some people reading our messages that have children.
Teen Screen is the federal governments idea to "screen" ALL school age children for potential "mental illnesses".
Many parents will not even be made aware that their children are "being tested" because Teen Screen uses a "passive consent" form. That means if you do not strenously object, then your child gets "screened".... and if you never see the form, you won't object.
If Teen Screen meets its objective, it will easily TRIPLE the number of children taking psychotropic meds in the USA.
And who would benefit the most from that ...?
This is an ADHD forum. Not a generic post what the hell you want forum. Keep on topic. Go to the parenting section where parents who want information would be looking. Better yet, go to a website that concerns the issues that your post address. To think this is an appropriate place for a post of that nature proves you not only a pest but a fool at best.
Again, can you post a solution instead of problems. Something helpful? You are an alarmest.
Perhaps you should seek professional help. I think you are obsessed with other peoples problems. It's not healty. Maybe you need some anti depressants??
sdw22738666.7300925926 [QUOTE=sdw227]Perhaps you should seek professional help. I think you are obsessed with other peoples problems. It's not healty. Maybe you need some anti depressants??
[/QUOTE]Brilliant, just brilliant.
I want to be that mean, but I hold back for some reason, must be my meds
Maybe I need some anti-anti ad/hd 'ers pills
I personally appreciate the insight... maybe I should go back to being a suicidal lunatic, huh? Preferable, perhaps, to being a drugged loser who is actually successful? I'll think about it.
Thanks again, reality, for being useless and insulting in the face of people seeking real answers. I'm sure you can confuse enough people into continuing to live in torment if only you try a little harder. I like the idea of antidepressants for you... if effexor induces suicidal ideation, that would be the perfect drug for you. One can only dream...
First, get informed on exactly what this program is all about. Go to:
http://www.psychsearch.net/teenscreen.html
Did you know that 9 out of 10 patients that go to see a psych end up on drugs? Did you know that 24% of the kids that are referred from TeenScreen end up on drugs? Multiply that figure by how many kids there are in the U.S. (as TeenScreen's goal is to screen every child in the U.S.) and you find that the pharmaceutical companies stand to make BILLIONS EACH YEAR with their new found "consumers".
Your self serving interest are not addressing the intention of this forum.
Do you really thing we believe you do this to help us? Do you really believe you are helping us? Is it your INTENTION to help us?
Why are you using this forum to take out your aggresion you feel for drug companies? That is not the intention of this forum.
Besides that, what the hell does the above posted article have to do with us coming here for ADHD issues we face everyday?
sdw22738666.6711574074You guys are pathetic. This is an ADHD forum for like minded people. And I'm talking to ALL of you. Piss the f**k off. Go someplace else and let those of us WHO ARE HERE FOR PERSONAL reasons get on with things. You are a bunch of people with a self serving adgenda. Really, get a life!!! We want answers. You people are like listening to a bunch of politicians proclaim why they are the best.
I bet you didn't know this, but who is paying the finders fee? teachers who post here are going to get so mad at you over this one.
"Teen screen" lawsuit reveals Pharma’s greedy hand
...Tax dollars already being funneled to pharma
In addition to lawsuits, tax dollars are already funding TeenScreen and many of the drugs purchased by the new customers it recruits.
While promoting TeenScreen to Congress, its Executive Director Laurie Flynn flat out lied when she told members of congress that TeenScreen was free and its website statement—"The program does not receive financial support from the government and is not affiliated with, or funded by, any pharmaceutical companies"—is also a blatant lie.
On Oct 21, 2004 President Bush authorized million for suicide prevention programs like TeenScreen and a report in Psychiatric Times said the administration had proposed an increase in the budget for the Center for Mental Health Service from 2 million in 2004 to 2 million in fiscal 2005. TeenScreen is sure to get a cut of those tax dollars.
Federal tax dollars are also being funneled through state governments to fund TeenScreen. On Nov 17, 2004, Officials at the University of South Florida Department of Child & Family Studies said ,641 was awarded to expand the TeenScreen program in the Tampa Bay area.
In Ohio, under the governor’s Executive Budget for 2006 and 2007, the Department of Mental Health has specifically earmarked ,000 for TeenScreen for each of those years, reports investigator Sue Weibert.
On June, 2002, the Update newsletter, published by the Tennessee Department of Mental Health, reported that 170 Nashville students had completed a TeenScreen survey. The Update said the survey was funded by grants from AdvoCare and Eli Lilly—a pharmaceutical company.
The great news for Pharma was that 96 of the 170 students who took the survey ended up speaking to a therapist which, no doubt, resulted in the recruitment of 96 new pill-popping teens.
Tax dollars spent on drugs
Unbeknownst to many, taxpayers are already paying an enormous price as a result of marketing schemes designed to get students hooked on anti-psychotic drugs. A list of drugs that must be prescribed for kids is already set up, modeled after a list used in Texas since 1995 called the "TMAP." The list contains the most expensive drugs on the market.
In 2002, national sales of antipsychotics reached .4 billion, making them the fourth-highest-selling class of drugs, according to IMS Health, a company that tracks drug sales.
By 2004, sales had jumped by over billion with antipsychotics sales totaling .8 billion—.4 billion of which was paid for by state Medicaid funds, according to the May/June 2005 edition of Mother Jones magazine.
Here’s how this part of the scheme works: The drug companies bribe state officials and donate money in the form of "educational grants" to the states to approve and implement these TMAP drug programs and then, in return, state Medicaid programs fund the cost of the drugs with tax dollars.
For instance, in Texas, Pfizer awarded 2,000 in grants to the Texas department of mental health to "educate" mental health providers about TMAP and, in return, the Texas Medicaid program spent 3 million tax dollars on Pfizer drugs like Zoloft.
Johnson & Johnson (Janssen Pharmaceutica) gave grants of 4,000 to Texas and Medicaid spent 2 million on the J & J antipsychotic drug Risperdal.
Eli Lilly awarded 9,000 in grants to "educate" state mental health providers and, as a result, Texas Medicaid spent 8 million for Lilly’s antipsychotic drug Zyprexa.
The TMAP was approved in Texas in 1995, and by February 9, 2001, an article in the Dallas Morning News, titled "State Spending More on Mental Illness Drugs" reported: "Texas now spends more money on medication to treat mental illness for low-income residents than on any other type of prescription drug."
In addition to covering nearly 40 percent of the drugs for Medicaid recipients, the state also spends about another million a year on "hundreds of thousands of prescription drugs for other state-funded programs at the Texas Department of Mental Health and Mental Retardation and the Texas Department of Criminal Justice," the paper reported.
By the time the 2002-2003 budget was established, Texas lawmakers had to increase the amount of money allocated to the department of health and human services by billion with a significant portion earmarked for prescription drugs, according to Texas officials.
In 1999, Ohio adopted its version of TMAP and by 2002 Ohio’s Medicaid program was spending 5 million on schizophrenia medications alone.
California spent over 0 million on the Atypicals Risperdal, Zyprexa and Seroqual in 2003.
In 2002, Missouri Medicaid spent 4 million on three TMAP drugs alone. The three topped the list of all other medications covered by Medicaid, including HIV, cancer, and heart drugs...
...Pennsylvania taxpayers are now saddled with PennMap, its own version of the Texas list of expensive drugs, for the treatment of mentally ill. As a result, this pharmaceutical scheme is being used to infiltrate public institutions and influence state officials and treatment practices in Pennsylvania...
...Dire warnings against mass mental health screening are coming from every segment of society, including parents, physicians, academics, journalists, and human rights groups because the influence of the pharmaceutical industry in this scheme is so patently obvious. ..
...In a letter to the editor in The Washington Times on October 31, 2004, Effrem summed up the dangers of using tax dollars to fund mass mental health screening of children:
"Given the very real problems of already existing coercion, subjective criteria, dangerous and ineffective medication and the failure of screening to prevent suicide... Congress would be wise to withhold the million requested for state grants."
...The nation’s first lawsuit has been filed and let it serve as a warning to other schools across the country to think twice before allowing the TeenScreen recruitment scheme to zero in on their students.
http://proliberty.com/observer/20050617.htm
bugz,
Your beloved president is paying the 0 fee with your tax dollars.
Medicaid is helping to pay for the prescriptions with your tax dollars.
So, as an American taxpayer.... YOU ARE PAYING THE "FEE" !!!
What if Teen Screen succeeds in drugging 3 times as many children as they are now ? Can you afford the increased taxes off your paycheck ?
Oh, I am so sorry, you were this close().
The answer was supposed to be...
What is BIG PHARM MEDICAL COMPANIES???
As a gift from us, you get this consolation prize...
a year's free supply of wellbutrin and adderall with 90 days free supply of ritalin and strattera. and a pack of cigs.
ENJOY!!!
bugzappers38667.7933217593
Glen,
Teen Screen is like bringing the psychiatrists to the kids... uninvited.
At one school they "screened" 350 kids and 71% were diagnosed with a "mental disorder".
It would not be a waste of time for the drug companies.
... bet you didn't know that in the USA, schools get 0 per kid if they convince the parents to have the kid "tested" and he/she ends up on "mental illness"drugs.