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I AM NOW ANTI REALITY AND FRIENDS.


 

 

  Here you go JHarman16....

    A whistleblower speaks out.

bugz,

    WHY the hostility ?

    The article simply points out that you can't trust your doctor because he's been lied to by the drug companies.

 

   Just because your doctor went to school for several extra years... doesn't mean he was taught the right stuff.

ANy doctor worth his huge salary does serious homework and research of his own. There are good and bad doctors--some who know their meds and others who go with the latest trends. It's our job, as parents, to find a doctor who does his own homework. I had to go to the University of Chicago Clinics to find a good doctor who actually helped me (and, boy, he did a great job) and my son had to find a NeuroPsych from Mayo Clinic. On the downside, we had terrible luck with the county mental health doctors (seems they often collect the bad docs) and many private doctors with no affiliation to a teaching hospital. Teaching/University hospitals are often on the cutting edge of medicine, and that's where we had the best luck. I would be dead without my meds. This particular med mix is awesome for me. I've been in bipolar remission for over ten years after being controlled by this illness before that. But the RIGHT meds are important. You may have to travel or spend a little more for a good professional. Long experience with both myself and my son! psm090438671.2686574074 Actually


This is from The Times in May. Seems that initial number may be a little high..

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1607202,00.html

"The alarm was sounded by a study in the Netherlands that found that patients taking these drugs had nearly three times the risk of sudden cardiac death. The authors estimate that the drugs cause 320 deaths a year in the Netherlands. By extrapolation, that equates to 1,200 deaths a year in Britain and 15,000 deaths in Europe and the US as a whole."

So the original figure would seem to be off by a factor of 10.

"The Dutch study, published in European Heart Journal, looked at all deaths between 1995 and 2003 in a population of half a million people from 150 general practices nationally for whom complete medical records are kept."

The problem with crusaders and zealots is that they think from an emotional center rather than their intellect. Information that supports their conclusion is accepted regardless of how or where it came from, while information that conflicts with their perspective is tossed out or minimized by internal self-justifications - in this case 'doctors are evil, medical companies are evil, it's a big conspiracy of silence'.

Thats whats so cute about conspiracy theorists in general.
Fallen38671.4910069444 A whistle blower how do you figure.  The fact that some people don't behave honestly is no new concept.  I can show you somebody from any industry that who only cares about money.  Medical ghostwriting is the practice of hiring PhD's to crank out drug reports that hype benefits and hide negative side effects. You had this in the article.  What the hell does a phd. have anything to do with precribing medicine.  They can't no matter what they think is wrong with you.
Now on to this whistleblower crap you write.  What kindof experience does this guy have.  In order to be a whislteblower you have to have somekind of afflileation with that company.  You can't just write something, mark it as fact and then be a whistleblower.  Once again you don't even read the information you submit or have any idea what kinddof reality you live in.  This guy holds a masters in organic history and claims to have first hand knowledge in drug sysntehesis with out any info where and he is is anti-medicine.  He does not even feel that chemo or insulin is required He claims science doesn't support them but gives no other info about what to do with them.  The truth is that i have first hand industry experience with drug synthesis because in chemistry 130 my freshman year of college we synthesised asprin.  your whistleblower is a fraud as well as you.
P.S. I am still waiting for you to prove that prescription drugs are the #4 leading cause of death
JHarman1638671.4809259259 So only 15000 for the US and england put together That is definetly less than Vietnam

Thank you for pointing out the inacuaces is reality's sources. Once again reality brings something to the table that is lies  Here is a website that has calculated your odds of dieing by different things.

http://www.nsc.org/lrs/statinfo/odds.htm

What is really intresting is that Antiepileptic, sedative-hypnotic, antiparkinsonism, and psychotropic drugs, which include ssris and snris, only "contirbuted"  to 1000 deaths a year but reality bashes them with distorted information.  while falling on or down stairs" specifically only falls involving staris,  contributed to 1600 deaths.  Blame those contractors and building inspectors for such a high rate of death. So stay off those stairs.




But i bet reality won't bother to correct his information, acknologe he is wrong, or even respond to this thread. JHarman1638671.5535763889

 

  It's a fact that prescription drugs kill more than 106,000 Americans every year. That's 1 every 5 minutes of every day.

  I'll get you some solid evidence on that FACT.

  As for your statement... Medical ghostwriting is the practice of hiring PhD's to crank out drug reports that hype benefits and hide negative side effects.

      The PHD's are hired to WRITE the reports, but the drug companies PAY DOCTORS to sign them as the "true" author. Some doctors just grab the ,000 and sign their name to the report without even reading it !

 

Prove your fact give me so kindof statistic from some agency, goverment, or any body else who is creditable because i have yet to see anthing even close to your assumptions and yet eveything me or fallen has shown you i.e. non bias proof you still refuse to admit that you have no truth behind the claims you state JHarman1638671.8140509259HOW DRUG COMPANIES DECEIVE DOCTORS
http://www.newswithviews.com/Ellison/shane20.htm

Shane Ellison M. Sc.
November13, 2005
NewsWithViews.com

Following doctor's orders has become synonymous with danger. Every year, FDA approved drugs kill twice as many people as the total number of U.S. deaths from the Vietnam War. [1] Death by medicine flourishes because deceit, not science, governs a doctor's prescribing habits. As an ex-drug chemist, I witnessed this first-hand.

This deceit comes in many forms. Medical ghostwriting and checkbook science are the most prominent.

Doctors rely on peer-reviewed medical journals to learn about prescription drugs. These journals include the Lancet, British Medical Journal, New England Journal of Medicine and the Journal of the American Medical Association. It is assumed that these professional journals offer the hard science behind any given drug. This assumption is wrong. Medical journals can't be trusted thanks to medical ghost writing.

Medical ghostwriting is the practice of hiring PhD's to crank out drug reports that hype benefits and hide negative side effects. Once complete, drug companies recruit doctor's to put their name on the report as authors. These reports are then published in the above mentioned medical journals. [2] The carrot for this deceitful practice is money and prestige. Ghostwriters can receive up to ,000 per report. Doctors receive prestige from having been published. Ultimately, patients get bad drugs disguised as good medicine.

As deplorable as medical ghostwriting sounds, it is more common than you think. The world's most influential medical journal, the New England Journal of Medicine , has admitted that 50% of their drug articles are ghostwritten.

The editor of the British Journal of Medicine has acknowledged that medical ghostwriting has become a serious problem for his publication: "We are being hoodwinked by the drug companies. The articles come in with doctors' names on them and we often find some of them have little or no idea about what they have written." [3]

Consider the testimony from deputy editor of The Journal of the American Medical Association: "This [journal articles] is all about bypassing science. Medicine is becoming a sort of Cloud Cuckoo Land, where doctors don't know what papers they can trust in the journals, and the public doesn't want to believe." [4]

Other weapons of mass deception exist – checkbook science. As defined by Diana Zuckerman, PhD, checkbook science is research intended not to expand knowledge or to benefit humanity, but instead to sell drugs. It has stolen the very soul of University research, scientific method, and the patients who serve as human subjects. [5]

Drug companies use checkbook science to sponsor their own drug research via the halls of academia and government institutions. Money is used to design their own studies, interpret the results, and stuff negative data under the drug-rug. The drug-rug is a behemoth rug. It has to be. A myriad of negative drug data exists.

Like medical ghostwriting, checkbook science is more common than you think. A third of academic professors have personal financial ties to drug makers. [6] Called the "Stealth Merger" by the LA Times, top scientists at the National Institutes of Health also collect paychecks and stock options from the drug industry. [7] This has been going on for over 20 years.[8] Known as the Bayh-Dole Act, U.S law was amended in 1980 to allow for these flagrant conflicts of interest.[4]

This calculated deceit is scandalous. Hopefully the line at the pharmaceutical trough gets shorter as this scandal becomes public. Though, drug makers have an insurance policy for this – Direct-to-Consumer advertising. The oft repeated "ask your doctor" ensures that the herd instinctively embraces drugs, drugs and more drugs.

Understanding medical ghost writing and checkbook science explains why medical doctors have been hypnotized into drug worship – they only see the positive. It also explains why modern medicine is more deadly and lucrative than war – the danger has been silenced with the pen and money.

Drug companies do not take responsibility for the wonton prescription drug deceit. Instead, victims have been made invisible - dehumanized. They are not recognized as children, or men with significant contribution to society. Their deaths are simply shrugged off and attributed to sickness or aging.

Those who profit from prescription drugs should hold some sort of record for the having the most reckless disregard for human life. If the deceit continues the prescription drug leviathan will silently kill more people than Napalm dropped on Vietnamese villages.

Footnotes:

1, Approximately 58,000 American's died in Vietnam. FDA approved drugs kill 106 - 125,000 people per year when used as prescribed.
2, Source: CBC's Marketplace. Aired March 25, 2003. Researcher Colman Jones.
3, Revealed: How Drug Firms 'Hoodwink' Medical Journals
4, Shannon Brownlee. Doctors Without Borders. Why you can't trust medical journals anymore. Washington Monthly. April 2003.
5, Zuckerman, D. Hype in health reporting: "checkbook science" buys distortion of medical news. International Journal of Health Services. 2003;33(2). 6, Bekelman, J.E., Li, Y. and Gross, C. P. Scope and impact of financial conflicts of interest in biomedical research. Journal of the American Medical Association. 289: 454-465.
7, Willman D. Stealth merger: drug companies and government medical research. Los Angeles Times. 2003 Dec 7;:A1, A32-3.
8, Doctors Without Borders - Shannon Brownlee

© 2005 Shane Ellison - All Rights Reserved

NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C., section 107, this material
is provided without permission from the copyright owner, only for
purposes of criticism, comment, scholarship and research under the
"fair use" provisions of federal copyright laws.

um... the website...  "news with views" ???

so full of conspiracy theorist crap.

it's like it's a bunch of guys huddled in underground closets looking out for the New World Order.

it's funny to me how you think we'll just blindly read links... and not check the sources...  when that's precisely what you preach about NOT doing.

bunch of bible thumping, racist homophobes.

disgusting.


By Pastor Chuck Baldwin

May 22, 2003

NewsWithViews.com

Christian conservatives regard President George W. Bush as a committed Christian and staunch conservative. This is very perplexing as Bush's track record on numerous key conservative issues is less than stellar, to put it mildly.

For example, when one looks at Bush's record regarding favored treatment for the homosexual agenda, he discovers that Bush is every bit the pro-homosexual president that Bill Clinton was. Maybe more so


bella_b38672.7167939815are you coming out of the closet then????

 and you mispell everything then make a high intellegent post with all the words spelled.

 yes, your cut and paste and with them. auntie, your wrong, sorry.
Psm why is it Neurologist miss things if disorders are what they specialize in. What does one do if they can't travel to get answers. I guess live with the way things are. Some say homosexulality is a obmination onto God. pastmember38672.7459837963

Go ahead... check the sources.

   2, Source: CBC's Marketplace. Aired March 25, 2003. Researcher Colman Jones.
3, Revealed: How Drug Firms 'Hoodwink' Medical Journals
4, Shannon Brownlee. Doctors Without Borders. Why you can't trust medical journals anymore. Washington Monthly. April 2003.
5, Zuckerman, D. Hype in health reporting: "checkbook science" buys distortion of medical news. International Journal of Health Services. 2003;33(2). 6, Bekelman, J.E., Li, Y. and Gross, C. P. Scope and impact of financial conflicts of interest in biomedical research. Journal of the American Medical Association. 289: 454-465.
7, Willman D. Stealth merger: drug companies and government medical research. Los Angeles Times. 2003 Dec 7;:A1, A32-3.
8, Doctors Without Borders - Shannon Brownlee

 

    How do you know that the editor of the British Journal of Medicine and the Deputy Editor of the Journal of American Medical Association are... "bible thumping racist homophobes"?