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I am sorry to say alot of the abbreviations I don't know. My son Justin has been diagnosed with bipolar, he is in the 6th grade and he is on a 1st grade level they have him down as mentaly retarded and he has fits of rage, crying, violence, and claiming no one likes him. When I see him struggle to do the most simple things it breaks my heart. He is 12 now and we have been going through this since he was 3. He is on Depakote, Risperdal, Trazadone, and Klonidine. None of these medicines are helping him. He also has Tourrettes, he stutters and most of the time when he can't get out what he needs to say he will go after someone. He needs lots of hugs but the school says that it is not going to be tolerated by next year. He bit his teacher and my nephew. He will walk past younger kids and slap them. My 14 year old seems to be the one that he really likes to pick on. Please excuse my language but he calls her a whore and a bitch. I see that he has no friends and when his birthday came up in November he wanted a party but I didn't have any children to invite. We have a next door neighbor that has a child the same age as Justin I let him go over to his house once or twice and everytime he came home he said he was being hit and cussed at. They saw him as being weaker and they hurt him. Now I don't let him go, of course. He has a speach problem he sounds much younger than he is. He has Social Phobias also. We did his IEP the other day and the teachers say they adore him but there are times they can't control him. He has to have an aide go every where he goes. I have him in Special Olympics, Special Swimming, Unified Soccer and durring the summer there is a specal day camp. My sister was killed not to long ago by a drunk driver and we have tried our best to explain it to him but he still thinks she is coming back. I am scared for his future. He can be so kind one minute then the next he is so mean. My Mother who lives with us use to be so close to him, but she said he is becoming so mean she is going to stop being around him. His old Phyciatrist left the area and he has a new one, I told her all his problems. She would not even consider changing his medicine so he could stop being so disruptive in school. Then she said all I need to do is be more stern with him. I am so tired. I have bipolar, ADD, PTSD, Panic Attacks, OCD, Basilar Migraines and Gastroparesis. So most days I am either getting sick or have migraines, plus dealing with Justin. I set him an appointment up to see a Therapist and I am trying to get him a new Phyciatrist. If anyone can help me please let me know. We also had to take my 4 year old and 6 year old nephews into our house, because they were taken from thier parents. This has made everything worse. I've already had one stroke because of my migraines. I'm afraid if something happens to me what would happen to Justin. My husband of course goes to every appointment we have for Justin. But he doesn't know what to do either. On top of all that Justin is hitting puberty and he doesn't understand why his body is changing. Any ideas?Wow. You have your hands full. Before I'd be certain he has bipolar (and how I hate to confuse parents, but we had a bipolar dx. too) you may want to have him seen by a NeuroPsych for high functioning autism, which can also cause some very inappropriate behavior in certain kids. If he does have bipolar, and you're sure, the right meds can make all the difference. A good mood stabilizer is the key, along with NO stimulants and NO antidepressants. A mixture of, say, Lithium/Seroquel or Lamictal/Risperdal can be great. I'd forget about medicating ADD since his behavior is so out of control. Straterra can also make bipolar worse. But be sure it's bipolar. My son ran the gamut of a dx. of ADHD/ODD (wrong!), bipolar (wrong!) and it came down to PDD-NOS (right). However, my son's rages ended at 4, when he learned to talk. I just believe in exploring every single option and seeing every good sort of professional because of our horrible experience with misdiagnoses. Still, I hope you've read "The Bipolar Child" by Dmiitri and Janice Papalous. It's a great book. I have bipolar and am doing well. In adulthood, it is easier to medicate. In Justin's case, I'd really want him checked for co-morbid autistic spectrum disorder. Bipolar or not, he should understand why his body is changing. Bipolar kids are just as sharp as any kids, they are just mood-disordered. He may have both disroders with one being ignored, and that could be why he is getting so much worse. Hey, it's worth a shot.psm090438727.2311458333 OMG.Thank you, I am a nurse, so we always try to do a little diagnosing. But really I just want information. I went along with the dx, but some things didnt fit. He had OT for a while until we couldnt afford it anymore. She said he had poor muscle tone,had pragmatic problems and processing problems. He seems normal to people that dont talk to him for extended periods, just hyper,but once you start talking, he is one sided all he talks about is cars or star wars. I know all kids like these things, but it is ALL he talks about. I have asked his ped, the behavioral MD, OT(because she sees it) they all said no he makes eye contact. So I have been thinking this. I will call local childrens hospital for neuropshych. THANK YOUSeth's Mom have you checked into Aspergers a form of Autism?Seth's Mom, that sounds like my son. He seems normal until you talk to him, then you realize he doesn't converse. He monologues either about his videogames (specifically Mario brothers) or his favorite cartoons, and he has memorized most of his favorite shows by rote. NOT all kids do that. Autistic Spectrum kids have obsessions and narrow interests and aren't all that interested in other things outside of that and don't seem to "get" that others are yawning or getting bored with their intense interest when they speak. My son makes "iffy" eye contact too. That is such a fallacy that all PDD kids never make eye contact. It was one reason my son was misdiagnosed, along with "he's too friendly." I think they think of autistic kids as being mute, mentally challenged, and very severe. That is now called classical autism. If your son ever had speech or potty delays, you may be looking at PDD-NOS (atypical autism--these kids are friendlier than other spectrum kids). If he heasn't, he could have Aspergers, but his confusion of the "W" words makes me wonder about PDD-NOS. At any rate, I'd schedule with a GOOD (emphasis on good) NeuroPsych. If you don't know of one, call your nearest Autism Society and ask who the parents have liked. Almost all those kids have seen NeuroPsychs so they should have a name of one that they felt did a good diagnostic job. My son had twelve hours of testing (split in two hour increments). He had tons of performance tests, I had to fill out a million forms, and he observed my son. At first he wasn't sure WHAT he had, and I appreciated his honesty. It beat the crapola out of a one hour observation, a warning from the teacher had "he has ADHD", and a prescription pad. I'm not saying that he has it, but he has a lot of symptoms of it and I feel it's better to be safe than sorry. I wish you and Seth (nice name!) lots of luck. Autistic kids get considerably better with interventions at school. You shouldn't have to pay for the OT. My son gets it for free in his IEP, but you need to go to a NeuroPsych and get some sort of diagnosis other than ADHD. Good luck! Again thanx. He was evaluated at school for special services and we are waiting to hear back on what he qualifies for, I know at least he will for pragmatics and speech. BTW he is also extremely loving and affectionate(overly) Did they still treat the hyper active aspect of his DX or did his therapies help it subside? Hello all. I read somewhere on here a place to go to check for different dx that mimic adhd. Can anyone tell me? My son is 5 years old with adhd and is on ritalin 20mg right now. I'll list a few links for you. I can tell you, with honesty, that ADHD is usually the first diagnosis the professionals come up with, especially if it's just a Psycologist. Sometimes they tag on ODD. A NeuroPsych or Psychiatrist (preferably both) do a much better job of diagnosing disorders. NeuroPsychs put the kids through tons of performance tests and are very thorough. It is dangerous to try to diagnose your own kid, but it is smart to go to highly credentialed professionals. Psychiatrists have MD's and can see early onset bipolar, which is a mimicker. NeuroPsychs not only can diagnose ADHD, but can see the symptoms of different types of higher functioning autism in younger kids. To Seth's mom: My PDD-NOS son could not answer "W" questions either. If I asked, "What's your name?" he'd answer "Name." "WHere's your coat?" He'd either not answer or just say "Coat." "W" questions are confusing to PDD kids, not ADHD kids. MY son is 12 now and talks up a storm, but still doesn't have normal conversations. He's more likely to "monologue" at ya, but he's tons better. Early intervention is imperitive for a good outcome for any child with a PDD. I'd test him soon again and use a NeuroPsych with a good reputation. Eating hair would be a good example of autistic traits and strong sensory problems combined with strange behavior and/or social issues. Here are a few links, including the PDD assessment test, which shouldn't be disregarded. My son has PDD-NOS and was first diagnosed as (what else?) that famous ADHD/ODD (by a Psycologist, again of course), but that was far from all of it. However, professionals with credentials are best at diagnosing, not moms. Again, I'd skip the therapistss, schools, and Psycologists (except NeuroPsychs) for diagnosisng from one whose gone thru the diagnostic mill. Here are some sites:
www.childbrain.com/pddassess.html
www.childbrain.com
www.bpchildresearch.org
www.conductdisorders.com
psm090438727.0584722222 I have been looking around the site and found the childbrain test. My son scored a 109 moderate pdd. I found some of the questions so right on my son I am in shock. He likes to eat my hair. I told the "behavioral specialist" this and she said he likes to be close to me. He cant have a normal conversation, he cant answer how or why. I cant even ask him how he feels on his meds. I feel like Ive been punched in the stomach. I always assumed it was adhd, it runs in my family. But Ive also seen on the sight if the meds dont work its probably not adhd.
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