I've seen it mentioned in other posts that St Johns Wort isn't effective for depression. Is that true? Anything you can tell me I would appreciate. What about DHEA? Do you know if that's effective? Any other ideas on what does work?
Thanks
i took st johns wort only for 2 days. (3 300-mg capsules/day) i got a feeling in my head similar to a headache. but i guess i was feeling a little bit better, but honestly, two days was nothing. i decided to stop taking the st johns wort because i started taking Focus Formula, which i am still taking each day. I mean i dont think it would hurt to try it out. give it two weeks and see if anything happens. good luck! do u mean DMAE?ADD - Thanks for responding. I have been taking the st johns wart for about a week 1 in the morning and 1 in the afternoon. It seems to be helping but then I'm not sure if it's just because I want it to. I had read somewhere here about it not being effective and wondered if there was something about it I should know.
The other is DHEA something else I heard was for depression.
I'm just tired of playing around with my dr. about it, when I'm feeling worst as more time goes by.
How is the Focus working for you? Isn't that just for the ADHD? Not really depression, or does it work for both?
Hey. How is everything? How is the St. John's Wort working? How long have you been taking it so far and how much have you been taking each day? Sorry for the bombardment of questions, but I've decided to start taking 3 300 mg capsules of St. John's Wort each day in addition to the Focus Formula after hearing that there's a possibility SJW helps with social phobia. Also, I have mild depression. I want to hear the feedback youre getting from it. I hope all is well.ADD? - I agree that you should not be doing street drugs. You seem to be an intelligent young man, therefore you must know the serious ramifications of using such drugs. I strongly urge you to stay away from these illegal substances. I also encourage you to continue looking in other avenues for the answers you seek.
A psychiatrist could be very helpful, they could provide the answers your looking for. Would you rather not know for sure if your ADD? If you are they can help teach you coping skills and deal with the other issues you deal with because of the ADD. They can help with the depression and low self-esteem.
Are you able to talk to your parents about this? or any other adult?
Hang in there and make a promise to yourself to stay away from the drugs. You deserve a better life than what the drugs will give you.
Oh, my daughter is 17 today and yes she was dx ADHD/ODD. I want a psychiatrist to evaluate her and to help her learn ways to deal with it. ok thanks. i'll see what i'm gonna do.ADD? I am concerned! I'd hate to see you make the wrong choices.
I don't think you should wait until you think your at risk, your looking for answers. Isn't that why you come here? Being a teenager I didn't think you'd talk to your parents but you might want to try. As a parent myself I would want one of my children to talk to me and not suffer alone. Your parents are there to help you, let them.
hey lilbitcrazy. thanks for your concern. I think I will maybe go get some help once i feel as though im really at risk. i never really would talk about anything with my parents. i would just tell them that i wanna see a therapist and tell them that it doesnt matter why. i dunno, i still think about drugs a lot. ill have to figure that problem out. i guess its a "good" thing that i'm too self-concious to ask around for some drugs or too scared of getting arrested if i go to the ghetto for drugs (or just scared of the ghetto). ok thanks again. good luck with everything.Hi, Things for the most part are okay. Today's not so good?? Not sure why.
Anyway most days I am feeling slightly better than before. More calm, my head doesn't seem so full of fog (if you can understand that), a little more able to cope, things still aren't right. Maybe more time with the st. johns will help.
Before I was ready to sit down and just give up, but now I have the energy to keep moving. So is it helping, Yes, but is it going to help me get back to where I should be? I don't know.
I've been taking 100mg. 2 or 3 times a day. For what 3 weeks, maybe, now.
Hows the Focus working?
Hey, I'm glad things are getting better for you. I think the Focus Formula is actually helping. I feel like I'm able to think a lot faster than usual. Homework hasn't been such a bother lately, but then again I havent had such a big load of homework to do. But overall I think it's helping, along with the omega-3's i'm having. Now I'm taking 300 mg of SJW 3 times a day. I'm hoping it makes me more confident and raises my self-esteem. Ok I hope your success with the SJW increases as time goes by. Good luck.Why ADD I have a daughter about your age. The mention of homework got my attention.
Do your parents help you with your choices in your treatment? Have you been dx and see someone for your ADD and possible depression? I'm not trying to be nosy just more concerned now that I know your age. I'm very much hoping your not dealing with this on your own.
ADD? - Haven't heard from you in awhile? How are things going?
Hope your doing well!!
I do stjw with other stuff included 3 times daily and it helps me.I can understand your desire to not make things complicated, but maybe it wouldn't be as bad as you first thought. I had my daughter first dx. while she was in the 9th grade and she only had one or two of her teachers fill out the form. Is there maybe one teacher you like and trust enough to talk to? Maybe you have report cards from past years with comments wrote on it from the teachers? Maybe an appt. with a psychiatrist, they have tests they perform. I don't know too much about the psychiatrists yet my daughter has an appt with one in two weeks.
I encourage you to follow through with this and to talk to your mom. This is a lot to deal with alone at your age. To be honest I have an appt. tomorrow with a psychiatrist for myself. Since learning about add/adhd for my kids I've been wondering about myself. So, I feel foolish, but I think I should find out if I am.
Your better off finding out now and learning how to deal with situations. Think about it. Let me know how your doing, okay!
And for heavens sake stay away from the street drugs, no good will come from it. Thats not the life you want to have!
lilbitcrazy38762.2415856481well i asked my mom to set up a consultation with a therapist to get me tested for ADD but then he said that he would have to get my teachers involved so i said forget that. i didnt wanna get things too complicated. So i thought of solving the problem myself. And i wanted to get DMAE but at the store the person who works there suggested the Focus Formula so i went and got that to try it out. Also, I read about St. John's Wort and i know that i tend to have low self-esteem so I went and bought that. so yeah. i guess i have just been doing this on my own. well hey its better than doing ecstasy.I can understand your desire to not make things complicated, but maybe it wouldn't be as bad as you first thought. I had my daughter first dx. while she was in the 9th grade and she only had one or two of her teachers fill out the form. Is there maybe one teacher you like and trust enough to talk to? Maybe you have report cards from past years with comments wrote on it from the teachers? Maybe an appt. with a psychiatrist, they have tests they perform. I don't know too much about the psychiatrists yet my daughter has an appt with one in two weeks.
I encourage you to follow through with this and to talk to your mom. This is a lot to deal with alone at your age. To be honest I have an appt. tomorrow with a psychiatrist for myself. Since learning about add/adhd for my kids I've been wondering about myself. So, I feel foolish, but I think I should find out if I am.
Your better off finding out now and learning how to deal with situations. Think about it. Let me know how your doing, okay!
And for heavens sake stay away from the street drugs, no good will come from it. Thats not the life you want to have!
[/QUOTE]Yes, you have been helpful. I appreciate you talking to me about it. This is something I've found difficult to talk to others about, even my dr., I tried the wellbutrin and that seem to work okay but then the insurance co. refused to pay, long story. Finally went back to dr. and she gave me effexor (not really sure of spelling) seemed alright then missed a pill and was so ill I missed my first day of work in over 2 yrs. Took me 3 days before I really felt better and decided this can't be good and wend myself off of those.
So, anyway, with the st. johns I do feel slightly better, not ready to take on the world, but I will continue with it. Maybe in a month or so I will feel more like myself and ready to live life.
Good luck to you too, hope the focus works for you!
I was looking at a site about SJW and read some stuff that may be helpful for you. I copy and pasted some info down below. I will also put the link below.You should not use St John's wort if you are:
severely depressed; the herb only seems to have a positive effect on mild to moderate depression. If you are severely depressed, always seek the advice of your GP You should start to see/feel an improvement after about six weeks and before three months. If you don't, see your GP to find out if there are alternative options suitable for you.Hello, Dont know if this will help at all but my son was on concerta for 6 months & became worse. put him on st johns, vit b complex (nerves) & omega oils for about 2 months & noticed great improvement - so much so that now his appointment has come up & they have put him on another drug am almost thinking keep him on st johns. (but he is 22 & its not my decision)
A alternative medicine page (in UK magazine) recommends Solgar's Vit B 6 100mg per day and Rhodiola both available from Revital www.revital.com
take as directed on bottle
another UK website www.whatreallyworks.co.uk
or have you tried Attend Extress Depress or Memorin ; ; ; US website www.add.-adhd-help-center.com/add_typesmain.htm
hope it works for you xx
Hey, I was wondering which thread talks about drugs and alcohol? I couldnt find it in the ADHD Adult section. I mean, I used to feel like drugs was anescape, a way to deal with pain. But no one deserves the horrors that come from drugs. I just want to be healthier so that way I feel better about myself and keep from getting depressed.Hey your attitude about drugs is sounding healthier and that's great. There's a thread in the adult section on drugs and alcohol you could check out. There are a few stories on how difficult and how much this cost them.
What a bummer you couldn't wrestle in your senior year, sorry to hear that. Track practice should be starting soon. My younger daughter has talked about joining the track team but I'm not sure if she has made up her mind yet.
Any ideas on what you'll do after high school? College? Career choices? Graduation soon, the end of a chapter and the beginning of the rest of your life. A very exciting time in your life, enjoy it.
Hold your head up high and be proud of who you are!
Has anyone had success using St. John's Wort to curb the symptoms while quting Paxil? lilbitcrazy- Yeah, it would be good that your does swimming. It's a great sport even though i never liked it too much haha. however, i do lifeguard in the summer. what grade is your oldest daughter in?
ADD - Sorry I was wrong. The Drug and Alcohol thread is on the Spouse and Partner Board. Sorry about that.
A Pharmacist, huh? I think that sounds wonderful, have faith in yourself. You can do anything you set your mind to. My oldest daughter wants to go into the medical field as well, not really sure what area yet.
How's track practice? I don't think Kate will run track. She'll probably wait for the summer swim program to start. Which sounds great to me. I'd love to see her on the swim team next year. Then both my daughters would be on the swim team.
Maria Sha - I haven't ever taken Paxil. In some research I did on SJW I found that it may not be a good idea to combine the two.
Herbal experts have warned that combining SJW with drugs in the SSRI family might raise serotonin too much and cause a number of serious problems.
Some antidepressants linger in the blood for quite some time so you need to be careful when switching from a drug to SJW.
Sorry, I'm sure it's not what you wanted to hear.
Hey, I also came back to see how you were. well i'm doing ok i guess. I've decided that i'm just gonna stay away from most drugs because i know theyll just make things worse. maybe ill smoke tobacco occasionally, smoke marijuana very rarely, and drink moderately. but thats about it.
Hi, I'm doing well. Still taking the SJW and DHEA, and feeling better. Everything I've read says supplements take a while before you see improvement. I do feel better than I did 2-4 weeks ago.
I really hope you'll reconsider your thoughts on the drugs. In the long run they will only result in more problems and confusion. They are not the answer. Trust me. I don't want to preach at you. Your smart enough to know they are not the answer your looking for. Look for healthier ways of coping.
I am checking into the Omega's for myself and the kids. I think I might add them and see if they help with the kids, they're ADHD. I've read good results with Omega's.
How is school going? Do you play any sports?
I hope you are doing well. Talk soon!
hey, im glad that the supplements have been working for you. When i said i still wanted to use some "drugs" i meant that i wanted to use them occasionally instead of relying on them, which was my old mentality. All i would think of and want to do were drugs or alcohol. But now i feel more motivation towards life and i wont risk flushing my opportunities down the toilet by using drugs or experimenting. However, i just cant see myself being substance free for the rest of my life. Thats why i said that i may still smoke and drink a little. HOwever, hopefully i'll feel so satisfied that i won't ever want to do that stuff.Dont know about capsulas but I take herbs St John as strong tea, when Im in bad mood.
It helps me to calm down.
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