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I have chest pains with my metadate.. It is not my heart however, instead it is a really bad case of acid reflux. My hr/bp are both normal, my ECG ( is that the correct accronym?) is also normal. I just have to remember to take my prilosec!!

With that said, please don't toy with chest pains. A good doc will investigate the problem and not just send you straight to the ER. Especially if you are not overly concerned about it. I like the idea of presenting the supporting evidence that your heart is ok.. he or she can use all that info to provide correct treatment.

Hope everything works out and you get some relief.

sherry

40/m here Mike , similar situation .. 20mg SR ritalin ist thing in the day. Marginal effect , serious headaches with out it .

The Headaches for me can get worse until its chronic and becomes like a fog in my brain that i wade through

Id like to chat about this with you .. for a start i would as your inner guidence suggests refrain from mentioning the chest pain to your ADHD doctor .

If anything in the mean-time perhaps you could go to see

(a), a really grounded physical therapist .. the better the better .. if i was you i would start by going to the most respectable natural healing school in your area and talking to the receptionist .

(b), Ahhhh (a) is the best option Mike i think by far for a whole lot of reasons but well you could go to a gym for some physical exercise to keep you in good shape . mind you when i go to see the natural therapist i wouldnt mention ADHD straight away either .. let them do the work . silence is golden ,.

either way yeah you are in charge of this . I have kept quiet about things before for the same reason.. its not easy but it is often for the best .

Thats all i want to say about the chest pain ., but i'd like to chat about the headaches with you mike .

how exactly do your headaches feel ? can you in any way locate where the pain is ? like is it deep inside the skull or on the surface? lhs or rhs this kind of thing

allright later

2tone38757.1097337963Hello there- I am a 22/m I Just started Meds for the first time today, 10mg Generic ritalin twice per day. I see no effects really, seems like I forgot more when I am on it, and once it wears off I get really bad head aches. the weird thing is I have been getting a mild stabing dull chest pain directly over the region where my heart is. I am no DR, but as a health care provider with ACLS I am scared to call my docter and tell him this because I know he will go by the book, freak out and tell me to go the emergency room. I do not have a since of impending doom and feel the pain maybe even unrelated to the medication. I have a stehescope and some other stuff at home and listened to my heart tone during one of these episodes, Everything sounded perfectly normall to my suprise. Tommrow at work I am going to have a co worker help do a 12 lead ECG on me and see what it looks like, I guess after that I might call my docter and present him with all supporting evidence along with the symptom. in the meantime has anyone else had this problem and what was it caused by if so? I read a post on this forum or another about a little girl taking ADD meds with the same Symptoms. .IMac38947.4842013889

Seriously - use the spell checker. It's that button with ABC and a checkmark on it. You seem very foolish with all the spelling errors. How is anyone going to take you seriously?

Look - I was going to let you off the hook and chalk it up to ADHD. But you tell people to hide things from their doctor. You hide a crack or meth addiction from yours? Something has to explain your lack of forethought. It's almost sad.

If someone can't have the trust with their doctor to be able to let them know when there is a problem then you either find another doctor or risk death. That's it.

You are coming close to me reporting you for your barely-hidden swearing and foul temper. I protect my friends here - you want them to get hurt and that's obvious. ADHD doesn't excuse your behavior or lack of compassion. And your awful spelling clinches it.

2tone - still even after you are chided for it you tell someone to keep their "mouth shut" when dealing with a prescribing doctor?? Can you truly be this thick?

As with everything else in life HONESTY is very important. The doctor handing out medication MUST be appraised of all factors in a patient's life!! Can you not see this??

f**k off Glen

you're opinion is your opinion , mine is mine . i dont need a clown like you juming up and down insulting me when i post ..

all you are doing is stuffing up a positive thread with issues of your own ego ..

crawl back up yopu arse sh*thead you and youre monkley and ruined this thread will all your crap .. people ask for opinions and they get them then they make up thier own minds .. you you concieted crap artist think the onlyopinion is the one you subscribe too Add medication will never overvome the f**ked up part of your mind where you hold onto that poison so dearly Glen

just ignore me like you said you would when you last insulted me ..your a sad friggen joke

oK i will .. but where do you get off using words to describe people that these people dont understand .. its the classic example of that greatest evil of mankind "wanting to control others" .. where i come from its an insult to treat peolpe this way

Yes i will go look it up (on google).. however you need to modify your behaviour imo because you are causing issues not resolving them as you should do as a decent human being

[quote]In Asperger's Disorder, affected individuals are characterized by social isolation and eccentric behavior in childhood. There are impairments in two-sided social interaction and non-verbal communication. Though grammatical, their speech is peculiar due to abnormalities of inflection and a repetitive pattern. Clumsiness is prominent both in their articulation and gross motor behavior. They usually have a circumscribed area of interest which usually leaves no space for more age appropriate, common interests. Some examples are cars, trains, French Literature, door knobs, hinges, cappucino, meteorology, astronomy or history. The name "Asperger" comes from Hans Asperger, an Austrian physician[/quote]

No i dont see any clear connection betwen my condition and this aspergers syndrome .. not that this discussion should be about me dammnit but i feel the need to respond to these personal attacks . Isolation yes but i hadve enforced this directly not by my nature myu nature is massively social and it has been destructive for me with all the time wasting and stuff (this discussion being a classic example) so i have become isolated on purpose to survive . Yes i'm clubsy in a way but i have a exposed nerve in my spine and massive headaches .. my interests have allways been extremely mature and wide .. i have studied widely on the most mature and advanced areas of all subjects i have been interested in ..

I think the accusatory diagnosis was both poorly evidenced and rather insultingly directed .. i may fit some of the classes of Autism but i see things differently and with more insight and experience than many

Henieken Mike ,,

If i was you and i always intended to suggest this during our discussion (until all the off topic rubbish side tracked me my apologies) ..

How about going to see another physician not your ADD perscribing physician regarding the chest pains .. I do think you will almost certainly find they are something related to other things (physical things most likley and you might benefit from some gym work to discipline your body)

But eitherway i sympathise completely with your concerns about giving the doctor even the suggestion of a reason to take you off medication .. if you need to be off it then yeas for sure but its most likely that its just a physical thing based on your bodies physical dynamics

Going to a second doctor to investigate this issue gives you the security of having the matter investigated by official medical people while distancing it just a little from your prescribing doctor . Your doctor will be advised in due course but by then you will be better assured of your position .. i do know that anxiety and doctors visits dont go well together ..

I'd still like to know more about your Headaches Mike .. i hope we can get back onto that part of it ..

Let me kow Mike if we can discuss the headaches ..

Cheers ..
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Now Auntie - it's ok. After all - remember it's coming from someone wearing the matching X-men (TM) pyjamas and diaper! He's far too infantile to understand that what you say has repercussions on others.

do it f**k face report me because your a sh*t

do it ..

you life sucking f**k head ..no wonder your child died cause you are an asshole .. i dont want to be around you either .. kill me quick '

Well, I had absolutely no probem reported 2tone. Obviously this person has some very serious problems. Anyone who would tell someone to not report heart pains to the doctor is not a rational person and angry, holy cow!! And what a whimp, can't take any criticism without going off the deep end. Sheesh.

Henieken Mike: Please tell your doctor immediately about the heart pains. You may be risking your life if you do not. Please!

Thank you Auntie. I would too, except I think I used up my reporting on the little anti-ADHD brat earlier.

I think maybe 2tone ran out of substances to abuse, looks like he settled on abusing Glen instead.

Poor Mike. Simple questions don't usually cause ugly explosions like this.

And 2tone tells someone with heart pain to go to the gym!!!!! What kind of asinine suggestion is that!!! Yes, lets just make sure the heart gets taxed to every possible extent.

Honestly, I wonder if this wasn't just a setup by the two of them but I could be wrong.

Whoa.. you come across as a NASTY OLD BITCH
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Oh and 2tone? In Canada at least every Rx comes stapled inside a bag. That bag has on its' seal a printout required by law a list of possible side effects, overdose info and other pertinent info about the Rx. It's something I think many don't read. Also on the 1st Rx you get the pharmacist typically prints out a larger informational booklet that contains not only the short list but things like possible med interactions and instructions on safety and even sometimes storage info. Canada is a lovely country - and I love it!!

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yeah well good for you .. no such thing at this end of the world .

no booklet no storage information .. just pills ..

persoanlly i dont gve a toss about how much you "love" canada .. are you bipolar or something ?

Well 2tone - seeing as you have the Xmen as your big influence by your sage quote below your equally sage spoutings - I'd say you would never understand love of ones' country. What are you - 12?

Bipolar - wow that's a really big word! Your mommy teach that to you? Of course not - if your mommy was alive she'd have eaten you by now. I'm sure most mommies would have to save others from having to deal with this trite conversation you are so apt at giving.

Probably your nap time so I'll let you go get your jammies with the bottom flap on . Nighty night!

Im a mutant and its a nice quote so stfu about that oK?

If you want me to tear a strip of you lily livered up yourself pretend to know what your talking about ass just let me know

i have a bullsh*t detector that the military would love to know about .. your an darkhole who blows his own trumpet and has nothing of substance to offer .. if all you want to do is be a pledge for the pharmaceutical companies then year add that to you canadian flag and wave ,, dipsh*t .

GlenW up himself

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Well 2tone - seeing as you have the Xmen as your big influence by your sage quote below your equally sage spoutings - I'd say you would never understand love of ones' country. What are you - 12?

Probably your nap time so I'll let you go get your jammies with the bottom flap on . Nighty night!

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Again IMac I agree! So many people say "it's just a..." and choose to ignore symptoms that could be very serious or benign - but must be determined by a qualified MD. It's never worth just ignoring it.

Wow IMac that's several posts that I agree with you! I sometimes find you a bit ascerbic and terse (sometimes cruel or rude as well a la Bugzappers) but you do have very good points indeed. Perhaps a volume control on your postings might help people see the content behind the salvo its contained in. Just a thought. I also get very upset at people but try to type out what I plan to say in advance (even if only in my head) and consider the ramifications before clicking post. But that's me you do what your heart and head say you must.

GlenW38759.4961805556.IMac38947.4847337963Jerry Springer? Getting close, Sparco, my friend. Glen is still demonstrating the kinder, gentler way of disagreeing with a wacko. Notice he said, "I laugh and laugh heartily at your attempt." If Glen had said, "I spit on your private parts", we'd know he was really upset with the Big Kahuta/2Tone.

Glen, your control is admirable. Don't be too hard on Kahuna/2Tone, the ADHD meds don't work for him and he so wanted to be one of us. I'm not talkin' penis envy here, it's just plain ADHDer envy.
[QUOTE=GlenW]I have more fear of being stalked by a teletubbie than by you.[/QUOTE]

Even by my standards, this was pretty harsh.

[QUOTE=IMac]2Tone is an Aspie. [/QUOTE]

What is an Aspie ?

as usuall you nasty old hag i suppose you are accusing me of something
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2tone - I have more fear of being stalked by a teletubbie than by you. You are an impotent little worm and have nothing good to say so I'm going to ignore you.

I have more knowledge about ADHD in my little finger than you do in your immature little brain. Don't bring a knife to a gunfight little man.

Medication works and that must burn you up inside. You can't fight it - not without recycling very old and very incorrect rhetoric.

Oh - and use the spellchecker if you can't get the spelling right. It points to you being an uneducated one and it's easy to spot you. I laugh and laugh heartily at your attempt. You have no power and it humors me.

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good great ignore me

i dont give two farts about you saying you kow more about it than me .. honsetly my life has led me into interaction with people of all srata of society and i hold my ground amongst all of them .. your opinion is just that ..

but if you say you are going to ignore someone then do it .. dont then go onto lauching a further diatruibe

the one thing oi look for above all other in people now after the rolercoaster ride of a life i have had to date is sincerity .. if someone says they are going to do something then either they do it or they dont

clearly you are one of the hypocrites in this world who are imo the cause of the greatest confusions and destruction

if you are going to ignore me then by god do it .. having to watch you bretay yourself like this is just rather disgusting to be honest

give me sincerity and honesty before self prefessed knowledge any day

we have a family saing about self confesses experts

x is the unknown factor and a spurt is a drip under pressure .. sums you up Glenda

[QUOTE=2tone] [QUOTE=IMac]2Tone is an Aspie. [/QUOTE]

What is an Aspie ?

as usuall you nasty old hag i suppose you are accusing me of something
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Let us know what the doctor says, ok? Most people are here to help and be supportive to each other. I didn't get very good results with ritalin either. It seemed like I only got a brief period of concentration then pfft. I forgot more stuff because it would let me down just about the time I became comfortable not double and triple checking everything. Maybe it is just not the right med for you all the way around?

[QUOTE=HeinekenMike]Hello there- I am a 22/m I Just started Meds for the first time today, 10mg Generic ritalin twice per day. I see no effects really, seems like I forgot more when I am on it, and once it wears off I get really bad head aches. the weird thing is I have been getting a mild stabing dull chest pain directly over the region where my heart is. I am no DR, but as a health care provider with ACLS I am scared to call my docter and tell him this because I know he will go by the book, freak out and tell me to go the emergency room. I do not have a since of impending doom and feel the pain maybe even unrelated to the medication. I have a stehescope and some other stuff at home and listened to my heart tone during one of these episodes, Everything sounded perfectly normall to my suprise. Tommrow at work I am going to have a co worker help do a 12 lead ECG on me and see what it looks like, I guess after that I might call my docter and present him with all supporting evidence along with the symptom. in the meantime has anyone else had this problem and what was it caused by if so? I read a post on this forum or another about a little girl taking ADD meds with the same Symptoms. [/QUOTE]

Gee HeinekenMike - You know chest pains can be serious. Deadly serious. Please, tell your doc! Of course he will check you out thouroughly if he is a good doctor. dx'ing yourself is dangerous.
[QUOTE=2tone] [QUOTE=IMac]2Tone is an Aspie. [/QUOTE]

What is an Aspie ?

as usuall you nasty old hag i suppose you are accusing me of something
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An Aspie is someone with Asperger's Syndrome. It is NOT a dirty word.

Well what is Asperger syndrome ??
and i never said it was a "dirty word" i said it was probably accusing me of something .. pointing the wicked old finger if you know what i mean

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Well what is Asperger syndrome ??
and i never said it was a "dirty word" i said it was probably accusing me of something .. pointing the wicked old finger if you know what i mean
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type aspergers on search on here & you will see.................

Okay everyone. Take a deep breath!! This is a forum to help each other. There is no point in berating or putting people down for decisions they make. In the end, it is their decision whether it is right or wrong. That is not for us to decide. If we are to dispense advice do so from genuine desire to lend a helping hand. Not to trump ones self up. Be constructive in your tone and content. People deal with enough sarcasim and callousness in "real" life then to come in here and get the same treatment. Think before you respond. Do people relize their "tone" will either make the other person receptive to advice or defensive to the person giving the advice?

That's all. I'll climb of my faulty soap box. I've just noticed a negative tone weaving itself into this board. I've been reading in here on and off for a while now and being negative and condescending seems to be much more prevelant these days. Of course I've also noticed that the trolls are gone!!! Balanced, Curus, good job on troll extermination!

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2tone - I have more fear of being stalked by a teletubbie than by you. You are an impotent little worm and have nothing good to say so I'm going to ignore you.

I have more knowledge about ADHD in my little finger than you do in your immature little brain. Don't bring a knife to a gunfight little man.

Medication works and that must burn you up inside. You can't fight it - not without recycling very old and very incorrect rhetoric.

This better than Jerry Springer!

Mike - your MD won't send you to the ER! What most likely will happen is you'll get an appointment to get an EKG as chest pain can either be anxiety from too high a dosage of ADHD meds or possibly a preexisting heart condition that wasn't noticed. Either way do tell your MD! Not doing so is at your own peril.

Read your Rx's documentation from the bag. TELL MD IF YOU EXPERIENCE CHEST PAIN. Very essential. This doesn't mean per se that you'll be cut off only that you'll be checked out.

I worry about your health. Yours too 2tone. 2tone - you need to stop giving advice that comes off like that. you could kill someone and I hope you have the conscience to understand why you'd regret that so much.

"the weird thing is I have been getting a mild stabing dull chest pain directly over the region where my heart is. "

Three possible causes: angina, muscular tension (stress), or acid reflux. Stimulants often cause increased production of acid. Stimulants can make muscles tense for a few hours and once the medication wears off, the muscles are sore from tension. Angina happens when the blood vessels get too narrow and doesn't provide enough oxygen to the heart.

By any means, be sure to tell your doctor about that symptom. You may get a complete cardiac checkup to make sure your cardiac system is all right.

Whatever , a person has to say what they believe . Its just a truth to me that saying things to a doctor can sometimes cause them to go off on a tangent .

GlenW .. for instance you say here the Rx's "Bag" mentions .. TELL MD IF YOU EXPERIENCE CHEST PAIN... but my prescription "box" says no such thing . People have a lot of different experiences in life and the only realistic way to deal with these difference imo is for people to openly and honestly say what they belive know and feel .
You might want to put me down Imac for writing what i have wrote , but you havent walked in my shoes , in context of the real anxiety concerns HeinikenMike expressed about telling his doc about this minor chest pain i still feel my point of view is valid . That the Rx on Glen's "bag" (whatever that is i dont know) maybe there is better advice .. i'm fine with that and you all should be to .

As i say im personally more interested in the headaches .. because they are part of my experience . You all seem to kow more about the chest pains than me (or Mike) well bully for you ,, my experience with the medical profession is perhaps markedly different from yours . salavie its a big world and a democracy .. you give your opinion and i'll give mine .

Would i be concerned if my advice 'caused the death of another person' .. oh man that is a really low life thing to say .. how about if your advice causes the death of someone GlenW .. how about you shut up as well just in case , in fact we could all shut up just in case right !! yeah great then with everyone being scardypants no-one would say anything .. but lifes just not like that is it ..