Peita Pan’s psych report | ADHD Information

oldtimer:
Sorry for not understanding, maby language error but what do you mean therapy can correct? What do you refers to saying "all these things", what things?

/Kaks
The people who tested me aren't going to do anything for me. I don't think they are set up for that kind of counseling. ADD would be small potatoes for them, I think. This doctor's specialty is treating stroke patients.

I think it would be up to my regular doctor to prescribe meds. I have the report that suggests it, so getting a prescription won't be a problem.

Lynnann, you mentioned overcompensating, and that seems to be what some people do that as a coping mechanism. One of my former co-workers who also had ADD was extremely organized, worked super-long hours, and used the hell out of his Microsoft Organizer and MS-Project. But he was also anal retentive, a work-aholic, and needed and demanded extremely close supervision from our boss. He also seemed to have a real "need to please". Our boss (who we suspected was also ADD), HATED giving this guy supervision and didn't really seem to respect him because he was so needy and demanding.

I am the opposite of my former co-worker. Obviously, I'm not organized, but I'm also not a work-aholic-- there is more in life than work! I'm not anal retentive and I need elbow room from my supervisors.

I really hope that I don't have to become like him in order to succeed. I liked him a lot, but I can't see myself being quite that rigid.

If I lived alone my own coping skills that I have learnt would get me by. But being a wife and mother changed things. I was driving my husband crazy and my daughter had absolutely no structure to her life, so I did it for all of us really.

I have a work mate with ADHD that sounds like the person you work with but she's not on any meds. Sometimes I really wish she was

Just came back from my psych visit. Hey, guess what! I've got the ADD!

My tests included, in order of administration:
Trails A
Low Average, 18th%ile (she notes that I was slower than expected relative to my peers, but made no errors).
Test of visuomotor speed and attention

Trails B
Average, 73th%ile for time; no errors on the test
Tests executive function-- the domain of cognitive abilities that includes self-regulation/self-monitoring, response preparation, cognitive flexibility, reasoning, and organizing time and space. Trails B tests attention, cognitive flexibility, and visuomotor speed

Vocabulary subtest from the Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale Third Edition (WAIS-III)
Very Superior, 98th%ile
In category of "Intellectual Functioning"

California Verbal Learning Test-Second Edition (CVLT-II)
Superior range; trial 1: very superior; trial 5: high average; excellent retention for information over time. Recognition memory high average. No percentile given.
In "memory" category

Rey-Osterreith Complex Figure Test (RCFT)
Superior range, 90th%ile and 93th%ile
Test of visual memory

Average range, 63th%ile
Test for elements of design

Within normal limits (>16th%ile) [this seems really low to me, but apparently, I'm normal]
Complex figure drawing test for visuospatial/perceptual

Wisconsin Card Sorting Test (WCST)
Expected ranges, >16th%ile; completed 6/6 categores; few errors
Tests use of feedback in generating and shifting among concepts developed from visuospatial patterns

Stroop Color Word Test
Average, 54th%ile
Tests ability to inhibit an over-learned response in favor of a novel one

Controlled Oral Word Association Test (COWAT; FAS/Animals)
Average range, 38th%ile and High Average range with the "introduction of task structure on the semantic fluency task, which involved generating words belonging to a specific category (i.e., animals)"
Test of phonemic fluency

Digit Span subtest from WAIS-III
Average, 50th%ile-- 7 forward, 5 backward, so you must also be around average on this, too, Peita Pan
She didn't write exactly what this test was for, but it's under the category of "Attention," so if we didn't do stellarly on this, I think that's to be expected for us ADDers.

Digit Symbol Coding subtest from WAIS-III
Superior, 95th%ile
Tests attention, visuospatial tracking, and motor speed

Word Memory Test
I don't see this discussed anywhere; perhaps it is part of the name of one of the other tests.

Conner's Continuous Performance Test-Second Edition (CPT-II)
No score given, but she writes: "On a test of sustained attention that required her to discriminate between targets and non-targets for 20-minutes, there were several indicators of inattentiveness and impulsivity. Specifically, her profile revealed that [she] had greater difficulty making discriminations that [sic] her peers. Her profile was also notable for a number of commission errors (i.e., responses to non-target stimuli). This pattern of performance, which suggests problems quickly and effectively perceiving or processing stimuli, was consistent with [her] self-report of difficulties during the task; 'I keep telling myself not to push the "X," but I keep pushing it anyway. This is crazy. You're going to put me in an asylum for this.' "
Test of sustained attention

Letter Number Sequencing subtest from WAIS-III
Average, 75th%ile
In category of "Attention"

Boston Naming Test (BNT)
I don't see this discussed anywhere. Perhaps it is part of the name of one of the other tests.

Paced Auditory Serial Addition Test (PASAT)
Average, no percentile given
Tests complex divided attention
Interpretation:
"[The crazy lady] is a 33-year old woman who reports a long-standing history of problems with organization, time management, planning, and distractibility. Based on her educational/vocational history and her performance on a "hold test," [her] level of intellectual functionaing is estimated to be in the superior range. In comparison to that level of functioning, she exhibits relative strengths on measure of processing speed, learning and memory, visuospatial skills, and semantic association fluency. Although her scores are within normal limits of functioning for her age group, [she] shows greater difficulties than would be expected for someone of her intellectual abilities on tests of focused attention and cognitive inhibition. Her difficulties with the latter were most evident on a test of sustained attention during which [she] had problems inhibiting her responses to non-target items. These types of errors will likely make her more susceptible to distractibility and less able to efficiently process informaiton ofver extended periods of time. This may help to account for her significant problems with everydayh functioning and work-related activities, including difficulties organizing her home and work space, managing her time, paying her bills, and procrastination. The pattern of cognitive strengths and weaknesses evident from the current evaluation along with her persistent pattern of behavioral problems across her life that are consistent across different settings . . . are typical of the clinical signs/sympotms of Attention Deficit Disorder. Given that her behavioral problems are manifested by difficulty sustaining attention, difficulty persisteing with tasks to task completion, difficulty organizing tasks and the environment in which she works and lives, problems keeping track of important items, often 'losing' or misplacing things, being easily distracted by extraneous stimuli, and avoidance of work-related or home tasks that require susained mental effort, she meets criteria for Predominantly Inattention Type. . . ."

I'm glad I finally got confirmation, but didn't get any real advice for fixing my life. I got a lecture about how I'm intelligent and that I have poor coping skills (alcohol abuse being one of the poor ways I cope with being a f*ck-up) and that I need to figure out better ways of coping. She did say that I should try meds, but she didn't focus on that as a real solution.

All-in-all,  I feel like I'm being told: "You're smart enough to figure this out on your own. Oh, and drugs are bad." 

taritac38763.7363310185

I didnt get a computer test  Id have liked that

Kaks, sounds like our tests were very similar. I did wonder if the testing was very different for each country.

Taritac our results are really similar too. Its interesting reading about yourself in that type of report isn't it. I read it about ten times when I first got it. I wanted to make sure I was actually smart and not stupid like I thought I was

Im on dexamphetamines now and they are having a really good effect now that we've got the dosage right. I had to ask to give them a go, my doc didnt seem too eager to give them to me so that's why I just told her outright that I thought it was worth a try.

Ive also just made me first appointment to start some therapy to help with my anxiety and my ADHD.

If you're anything like me, you might feel a little low now that you have you're diagnosis, the excitment of doing the testing and waiting for the results kept my mind stimulated. Then all of a sudden I was given the info and just sent away with it???

Good luck Taritac, you clever girl you

Peita Pan:
I actually think we got the same tests, only translated. We also use the official criteria for AD/HD (don't remember who wrote them). But I did a very extensive investigation. I have realized that I did _every_ test when many others only do some of them. But in my case they didn't look for anything speciall, they only thought it was some sort of AD/HD or boarderline so they wanted to check for everything. I did also a really big physical investigation with CAT-scan, several bloodtests and everything, only to eliminate any physical issues.

Oh and btw, you wouldn't like the computertests, they were awfully boring :-)

/Kaks
All these things therapies can help correct!  I guess we do the same tests. After I saw my results in shape of a curve. It was suposed to be smooth but mine were jumping up and down the entire scale.

I could sit still.... I thought. She told me I was constantly moving on the chair, changeing which leg I sat on, twisting them, tapped my fingers, makeing grimaces and so on but I didn't leave the chair (Wow, I did good on something ;-) )

I was also very abstract when I was suposed to explain words. And I used my body all the time, I know I gesticulate but not that I did it that much. But I had very many correct in that area.

And the numbres.... *sigh* I guessed most of the time and did absolutly not have many correct.

When you got a key with symbols represent a number and then should translate a whole sheet of numbres? I thought I really did good until I talked to others... I obviously had a bit too high thoughts of myself :-}

Did you do TOVA? The computer test with the squars? I thought they were sooooo boring so I lost concentration right away and missed a lot of clicks and then to make it up I clicked on everything. That was really not my thing.

And the computer test with the cards with symbols? That was I good at, I thought and once again I had to realize i wasn't.

But this sounds like I did all wrong but I did many good to but I can't remember them. These are the things that got stuck in my head cos I was suprised I didn't do better.

Btw, I have never considered myself strange or goofy, only being the wrong person in the wrong enviroment.

(Writing the lines above just made me realize something important and I'm stunned, not often that happens *smile crooked*)

/Kaks
Kaks38763.3865046296Oh cool! I'm glad you posted your results. I'm going in to get my results today!! I'll post my results when I get home.

I remember doing really, really poorly on the computer test where you aren't supposed to click on the X, but are supposed to click on every other letter. There was also another test where I was supposed to listen to a man recite numbers, then add the numbers as he was saying them. For example:

He'd say:
2
4
5
3
7

I was supposed to say:
6
9
8
10

It was as hard as it sounds, and I did not do very well.

I think I did passably well on the memory tests, the definition test (I had to define a bunch of words), the test where you read the color name versus saying the color of ink, and the test where you categorize cards based on the shapes, colors, or numbers of symbols on the card. I'm anxious to know my results.

So do you think its a number thing or just the memory thing?

Barb, I nearly lost it in her office about the ponies. I work with people with Down Syndrome so my brain went full into what such ponies would look and act like  Luckily the doctor thought it was funny too

I thought of ponies with downs syndrome also as soon as I saw you had written mongol ponies!

I don't know enough about what all that means, but you did score very high in some areas, especially the language ones. It shows you are very intelligent.

I couldn't repeat any numbers either. 

Hello again. I wanted to share some of the things in my report with you all. Im interested in knowing if;

1. Any of you have the same type results in your reports when diagnosed and 2. If the testing here sound the same as your testing there.

Here goes. The doctor observed that whilst I was able to sit still during the five hour testing period, I clearly found this difficult, frequently tapping my foot and when I became aware of this I tucked my foot under the opposite thigh. Similarly, I would cross my arms and hold my elbows tightly with my hands.

She said Ifrequently used abstract ideas to answer questions. What does this mean???

She stated that I used my body to aide in problem solving. For example when I had to copy designs using coloured blocks where the shape was a diamond, I put my head on the side to square it up. I didnt even realise I had done that.

During the WAIT-11 Numerical Reasoning subtest I sat cross legged on my chair with my head on one side almost touching the table.

Throughout the WAIS-111 Similarities subtest I really showed up my distractability. When she said Hibernation-Migration all I could think of was bears in nice cosy warm caves then my brain couldnt think of anything else. In the Digit Span sub-test I found it really hard to remember the list of numbers.

In the WAIT-11 Reading Comprehansion one of the passages mentioned Mongol Ponies. At this point I got the gigles as I thought of Down Syndrome Ponies

Now apparantly my WORKING MEMORY INDEX put my performance in the low average range 21st percentile to be exact.

In the DIGIT SPAN test the longest correct recall was only 5 numbers forward and 3 backward. On the second day testing I could recall 7 forward and 4 backward. Is this as bad as it sounds to me??

On the WAIT-11 subtests my spelling and written expression put me in 88th percentile

Written Expression-95th percentile

Oral and Language-92nd percentile

Oral Expression-96th percentile.

Ok, if im in such a high percentile, why dont I understand what any of the above actually means

Sorry this has been so long, but lastly the doctor stated that I demonstrated a distinctive personality style with extreme scores in four areas. Profiles as distinctive only occur in 5 percent of the population.

Again, do any of you know what that means. Am I really really different

 

You ARE really different!  No, my test was different, but I think that depends on the doc.  I couldn't repeat the numbers back either.  That part was the same.  At least you could sit!  I found myself wandering around looking and picking up things on the bookcase.  When I do sit, I always tap or shake my foot, leg or something.  I hate sitting.  Yeah, docs notice that, they're suppose to. Abstract ideas?  not sure.  The reading comprehension.  Definitely there with you.  I get distracted and start daydreaming because some word or phrase brings on a mental adventure.  Down Syndrome Ponies.   It could happen.  The personality style?  Could he mean a personality disorder?  Several overlap with ADHD symptoms. 

Yeah, you are an odd one.  That's what I like about you  Seriously, we are all a bit on the different side here, aren't we?
Countrygirl38760.25375

I like being Odd I reckon

well you sound normal to me....I never got tested and now I don't care too.  I figured I lived this long with out meds and I have so many doping mechanism I use I would have to start all over. 

I was told that I have great skills for over compensating that why change it. 

I would like to know what meds they are going to put you on or behavior modification or what? 

Im interested too, what can therapy correct?