Strattera Press Release New Alert Details | ADHD Information
http://www.24-7pressrelease.com/view_press_release.php?rID=1 1216
/24-7PressRelease/ - SWEDEN, February 16, 2006 -
Drug deaths: call to action
Consumer and health groups urge Congress to hold hearings on issue
February 16, 2006
Be careful with this drug. That is why I have a doctor, instead of listening to people like you.
Strattera: 130 reports of suicidality in 1 month, 760 cardiac disorders and 172 liver damage reports. Says an UNPUBLISHED report - gimme a break - I have an unpublished report right here that proves you are an ignorant jerk.
http://www.lawyersandsettlements.com/articles/strattera.html For those of you who need need to make some cash - join a class action so that you can get paid while the attorney makes million. If I am reading the sight correctly the LAWYER is behind this unpublished report.
Strattera - 130 [Reports] Of Suicidality In One Month
February 15, 2006. By Evelyn Pringle This would be the same UNPUBLISHED report mentioned above, again I have an unpublished report right here that proves you just fell off a turnip truck.
A not yet released [discussion paper] written by the British Medicines and Healthcare Regulatory Agency, reveals that last fall, there were 130 reports of suicidality in a single month by patients treated with the attention deficit drug Strattera. Discussion paper is not a scientific study, it is a bunch of windbags who like to pass their guess off as "theory" hoping nobody will notice they can't back it up with facts.
In addition, the paper reveals that there have also been more than 760 spontaneous reports of cardiac disorders, 172 reports of liver damage, and about 20 reports of completed suicides. OK, bored already - why don't you go recycle it already.
The large number of adverse event reports are exposed in a December 9, 2005, paper sent to the Swedish Medical Products Agency by the British agency. The information was obtained through FOIA-requests, and was released under a court order, according to Swedish investigative reporter Janne Larsson I have never heard of any of these "organizations" are they your college buddies in disguise? Or fellow scientologists?
A press release on the British discussion paper will be issued tomorrow morning, on February 16, 2006. A PRESS RELEASE *gasp* about an unpublished piece of fiction written by your college drinking buddies or fellow scientologists and it is coming out tomorrow! WOW, what an astounding load of crap.
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That is exactly the same as taking out an ad in the paper, advertising a product that you thought up with your drinking buddies, that you haven't invented yet, and telling us that it will revolutionize the planet.
Thanks for posting, I needed a good laugh. 
No need to explain (I could tell from your replies).
http://www.ddat.com.au/content/science.html
Are you looking for help with any of the following? Reading Difficulties Spelling problems Poor handwriting Poor concentration Clumsiness Poor sporting ability Poor memory Low self-esteem Dyslexia Dyspraxia ADD & ADHD Aspergers Syndrome The Dore Program is a personalised exercise based treatment that deals with the root cause of the problem - offering you a solution to all of the difficulties listed above.
Johnson38765.3007523148Johnson, I hate to break this to you, but...
I have no clue what your point is here.
Main Category: Primary Care/General Practice News
Article Date: 17 Feb 2006 - 0:00am (UK)
The "undue influence of financial deals" with lobbyists can "create tension between the legal and ethical duty of a legislator," and "similar corruptive influences" exist in the medical profession, Jerome Kassirer, a professor at the Tufts University School of Medicine and author of "On The Take: How Medicine's Complicity With Big Business Can Endanger Your Health," writes in a Boston Globe opinion piece. "While lobbying groups spend about billion to convince politicians to do their bidding, pharmaceutical companies spend nearly 10 times that much to influence the nation's 600,000 to 700,000 physicians to prescribe the newest and most expensive drugs," Kassirer writes
I like to keep 'Up to Date' with news on matters pertaining to ADHD whenever possible. 
The Dore Program mentioned above (did you overlook the word ADHD?) was in yesterday's news on several sites, first originating from a BBC broadcast from Sydney, Australia. A radical totally drug free possible cure that academics believe might be a permanent solution is exciting and worth keeping up to date with. It may in the near future mean the end of ADHD and the end of the necessity of drug treatment and the side effects that can come with it.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4715782.stm
Hyperactivity cure hopes raised
By Phil Mercer
BBC News, Sydney
A British millionaire says he has stumbled across a revolutionary drug-free treatment for attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD).
Professor Rod Nicolson, of Sheffield University, said: "This is the first permanent solution for attention deficit hyperactive disorder I have come across."
Impressive results
Mr Dore told a news conference in Australia: "By accident we stumbled on something that could have the most dramatic effect on individuals' lives.
"These are wonderful, incredible results and yet we didn't even try to do this."
Some academics have even suggested that a 'cure' for ADHD had been found.
Professor Rod Nicolson, of Sheffield University, said: "This is the first permanent solution for attention deficit hyperactive disorder I have come across."
At the heart of Dore's theory is a part of the brain called the cerebellum, which co-ordinates movement and balance.
Researchers have insisted that this computerised equipment can accurately assess how well the cerebellum is performing.
Dr Stan Levy, a consultant neurologist based in Sydney who is working closely with Mr Dore, said: "When I came across the Dore programme and its exciting ideas, it really opened my eyes.
"Although drugs have been shown to be effective they are a short-term solution to a lot of the problems and they do have side-effects.
"What we think we're doing is making the cerebellum more efficient."
The 'ambulance chasing' reference?
The site was one of a several that held the pre Press Release statements, and the Press Release itself was not published on the 'legal' site.
The regulatory body in question was been put in a position where they needed to issue a Dear Doctor letter with additional warnings and that was released today.
Won't it be marvellous that none of this will be necessary if the Dore program proves to be the cure for ADHD.
I'm having the same trouble as Reisa here - what's your point?
First you bring up info that comes from ambulance-chasing lawyers (the same ones who pay to have people mark every pothole in New York on a map and ask people to make claims for every trip and fall they have), then from a learning center that has NOTHING to do with either ADHD or autism (our focus here).
Tell us - what are you saying? That ADHD isn't real? That strattera is bad? What?!?
Barrett is as much a quack as the quacks he fights.Stephen Barrett? You do mean one of the founders of quackwatch I assume? The man who graduated with an MD in 1957 from the Columbia college of surgeons? The man who's accreditations are far too many to list? I'm sure that is the one.
The only people knocking him as powerless are chiropractors, homeopaths and other snake oil salesman who are angry that he testifies as an expert when cases arrive in court and laws are formed. They attempt to defame him and he fights back and so far wins every time. He's been an expert witness against countless sham medicines and treatments.
In 1984 he won the FDA's commisioner's award for his battles against nutrition quackery. His site www.quackwatch.org has won the MD NetGuide's award for best medical site.
So you are either a chiropractor or selling homeopathic supplements. Otherwise you'd open your eyes and see that this man is a boon to the medical community in being on the front in the battle against scams and quackery worldwide.
Very funny. Especially coming from someone who advises people to go to Quackwatch on the Parents of ADHD board.
There's still a person who believes in Stephen Barrett as a source of valid information? VERY FUNNY!
Johnson38768.8933217593
To label a new test as a possible CURE for ADHD is beyond misleading. It cannot give any validity to this claim as "CURE" needs YEARS of study and follow-up before they can even dare claim this. Otherwise it's deception of the lowest calibre. A cure cannot even be achieved until they can show positively in clerical tests (done in classic scientific testing methodology) that they have an actual case to follow this up. I believe from what they have released they certainly do not.
It would be very convenient to show that glasses or visual training/retraining could "cure" ADHD. It cannot - it would be easily proven and be in the scientific journals if it were. This would be like a clinic being able to cure cancer and saying "only we have the secret". Smells like a scam then it's probably a scam.
Johnson - I believe you must be a paid employee of this company. You say you have ADHD but act more like a higher priced salesman. If this company truly believes it has more than snake oil to offer then I say open their studies to the scientific community and let them show the validity. They can hold patents on the methods and manner of the "cure" so they don't have to fear copies of them being created. If they truly are real then the money to be made would justifiably be great indeed. So let them do this! So far I have seen nothing so I assume they wish to be silent like faith healers, psychic surgeons and scientology narcotics treatment centers.
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GlenW
No I am NOT an employee of any company involved in any treatment of ADHD or associated disorders. I wouldn't know what a higher priced (or lower priced) salesman is, I am not the 'sales' type as I am far too shy. If I were a salesman I would know more about the background than I've learned over the last few days. What I have learned is that studies have been done on the Dore program an dcontinue to be carried out.
These are what I have found so far:
http://www.ddat.co.uk/docs/ResearchStudy4.pdf
http://www.ddat.co.uk/docs/ANGLESEY_GWYNEDD_LEA.pdf
http://www.ddat.co.uk/docs/WARWICKSHIRE_LEA_STUDY_SUMMARY.pd f
http://www.ddat.co.uk/docs/Bedfordshire_EAZ_report.pdf
I don't know if there are pdf files for the following but here are the basic details:
Stafford Goal Prison Service Study showed "Significant reduction in ADHD symptoms and depression symptoms Significant reduction in risk of dyslexia 87% of prisoners said the programme helped.
University College of London fMRI study started in May 2004. A long term PhD study with 45 children involved. The study is looking at both the structure of the cerebellum and the function of the cerebellum during activities associated with reading and dyslexia. The second part will look at cerebellar performance changes over time in those completing the Dore programme.
University of Sheffield, England, are supporting several PhD students and undergraduates researching into different aspects of dyslexia and cerebellum function projects: 1. This project is assessing dyslexic people on a number of tests of balance function and eye blink reflex responses. Project 2 This project is a collaborative project with the academic radiology department at Sheffield School of Medicine. It will be assessing the structure and function of the cerebellum in dyslexia. Project 3 This project is assessing the use of EEG (electric brain wave patterns) and Brain Evoked Potentials in dyslexia and ADHD.
Bristol Young Offenders Study: This study is a collaboration between the Dore foundation, Somerset and Avon Police, the Probation Services and the department of criminology at Portsmouth University who are assessing and treating 30 young offenders with Dore programme. This long term study is looking at academic performance and measures of ADHD and dyslexic symptoms as well as careful assessments of re-offending behaviour and subjective changes.
A USA university study on ADHD and Dore, the first phase of which is said to have been planned for fall, 2005, but I don't know if it actually has started yet.
Given the success of the pdf linked studies above, further (British?) Education Board studies are planned shortly, together with extensions of current Education studies.
Cohort Studies data on the changes taking place in over 7000 subjects who have used the Dore programme are said to be in the process of being written up and in order to be submitted for publication in the UK and USA within the next 12 months, which I believe may be upwards of 6 months depending on the date of the information I got these from.
Apparently approaches are being made to more "UK University" to discuss future projects looking at dyslexia, dyspraxia (DCD) and ADHD.
The Dore program is based on the work of a UK university professor who is known to dismiss what he conceives to be 'snake oil salesmen' and who was directing his research into dyslexia, rather than ADHD at the time, Professor Rod Nicholson.
From 2003:
'But last November, research by David Reynolds of Exeter University (former head of the Government's numeracy task force and a non-executive director of DDAT) into 35 children who had received treatment at the centre described "significantly greater improvements" in manual dexterity, reading and verbal fluency compared with their peers. SATs results at the school involved, Balsall Common primary in Warwickshire, have improved.
Professor Rod Nicholson of Sheffield University has conducted extensive research into the role of the cerebellum, and acted as a consultant to DDAT when it was setting up its programme. While the link between abnormalities in the cerebellum and dyslexia are well established, correcting the outward signs of this malfunction - poor co-ordination and balance - does not necessarily "cure" dyslexia, he says. "It is another step to training the cerebellum that will therefore improve your reading." Nevertheless, he says, the results are "extremely promising". '
Sometime during this research on dyslexia, ADHD showed as also being positively affected by the program which lead the same Professor Rod Nicholson, in February 2006, http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4715782.stm, stated:
"This is the first permanent solution for attention deficit hyperactive disorder I have come across".
I don't find that statement a SURE FIRE CERTAINTY OF SUCCESS.
I find it HOPEFUL. And that is why I posted it. I really do not understand why posting it has been received so badly. As an Adder I would be very happy IF further studies continue to show the same promising results as the ones that lead Professor Nicholson to make that statement. IF it proves to be a cure for ADHD.
What is exciting research today may prove to be less exciting tomorrow. Likewise, that research can be tomorrow's breakthrough. This relatively new reseach (all research has a starting point) is, at the moment, proving to have promising results.
Why was it so offensively wrong (judging from the scathing comments in reply from your friend Reisa) to post it? Am I only welcome to post on this forum if I stick to drug benefits for ADHD?
The eye connection is not the same as haveing far or near sided problems. This is eye sight issue. The vision is looking at how you perceive things. You can have 20 20 eyesight. The tests are diffrent from a eye chart test which only looks at how you see. A therapetic optometrist does these test not a opthamologist. Strattera is meant to suppress activity, so it is bound to lead to
depression, violence (frustration) and suicidal thoughts or action in my
opinion. Like a lot of drugs used medically for this and similar
conditions, it is like a brick wall to run into or a prison cell. It is not
meant to help release but to hold back the symptoms of the disease and
in susceptible individuals, it can have a disasterous effect.
The question is who is ADHD a problem too? Is it the 'sufferer' (patient),
their family or society?
Shhheesh, I read through all these post and not much was about STRATTERA....
my son is on it but I dont think it is working....anybody have any comments...did you ever try strattera and not get results? he is on 40mg so I am more than sure this dose is more that enough
[QUOTE=Sparco]Wow, 00-00 for a 15 month treatment? Do I get champagne with that?
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'Wynford Dore's exercise therapy costs around US$ 3,000 (GBP £1,700) and the treatment takes up to 15 months to complete.'
I recently saw a discussion here about vision problems often being associated with ADHD. I'm not sure which section it was in but if that is the reason you so badly misread and misquoted the cost of the program stated (as it currently stands as private treatment) perhaps one of the members who talked about those eye problems could show you where to go to get it corrected. Sorry I do not remember who it was but expect someone will if you ask.
The reason some of us take medication at the moment is the desire to be rid of ADHD symptoms, except for anyone who enoys being on the drugs for the sake of them and no doubt they will be hoping that there is no drug free cure. When that amount is weighed up against a lifetime of paying for prescriptions or insurance, the side effects of one sort or another from medication and occasionally some ADHD symptoms still around, then ,000 does not seem so high.
Seriously, if this does turn out to be a cure for ADHD, it would not remain in the domain of one person for long. It would be 'the' treatment available in clinics on a similar level as other non-drug therapies are at present. Up to 15 months (maybe a lot less) of the therapy and it would be over.
Adders hopes and dreams come true. No more suffering from ADHD and no more worrying about a child with ADHD. What more could any of us with ADHD (or parents of ADHD) possibly want? 
It would have an added bonus of helping to cut down on the misuse and abuse of medication by anyone falsely claiming to have ADHD as they would be prescribed the drug free treatment alongside those of us who genuinely have ADHD.
Johnson38765.7407986111
Do you have ADHD? Forgive me for my skepticism. I have been disappointed too many times. I doubt you are being sincere. If I am wrong, then please come say "I told you so." when it comes to pass.
Show me science, show me insurance coverage, show me results. I have no use for false hope or false promises. I have no use for academic theories, they do nothing to help my symptoms. I certainly have no time snake oil saleman who want to rip me off because I have ADHD.
REISA: I realize that you are finding it difficult to see the science, but there are indications of science in progress in all the above.
I also realize that its impossible to please all the people all of the time, but genuine ADHD sufferers like myself hope that further investigations in time are found to be correct. The findings SO FAR, as indicated by various professors, researchers, neurologists and academics (as in the article) indicate at the moment that this MIGHT be a cure for ADHD. Professors, neurologists and researchers are, by the way, academics. Snake Oil Salesmen are not and I hate to disappoint you but nowhere does it indicate that any are involved.
Personally I would rather a CURE for ADHD than how things are moment - drugs helping but not curing, and it would be illogical to expect initial investigations to come up with immediate "results". Research doesn't work that way.
Be patient to see how it progresses and be glad that you MIGHT in a relatively short time be cured of ADHD permanently - isn't that what you want? It is also possible that after further research it will NOT prove to be as promising as it looks at the moment, but this cannot be any more distressing than the situation has been all along as the situation would remain the same in that there would still be no cure.
What this is at the moment is PROMISING research. MORE promising than has been afforded up until now by drug therapy which while helping (some people) cannot, and does not claim to, permanently CURE ADHD.
If the idea of a possible cure upsets or frightens you, or you cannot understand the content, one suggestion would be that you forget about the information in this thread and concentrate on discussions where the focus is around drug (or alternative) therapies as are currently offered for help with ADHD.
Johnson38766.3151851852Wow, 00-00 for a 15 month treatment? Do I get champagne with that?
Johnson -
I have been travelling this weekend and busy so just unable to reply to you. Please don't take it to either agreeing with your postings or giving credibility to them. I do not.
I have been doing some research on this "treatment" over the last couple of days and discussing it and pondering it as well. I have come to the conclusion that it is based on exploiting a small scientific study in Greece a while ago and trying to make a new industry out of it. It actually to date has little value.
In Greece they did a visual study of children with ADHD. They found that children with ADHD had trouble tracking a dot on the screen and they ended up trying to track past it - theory was that they were trying to predict future movement rather than being able to keep with the actual dot. The prediction of ADHD in this study was in the 80 plus percentile range. That makes it a good precursor test for ADHD not a basis for treatment. There were theories bounded around about visual signals actually being linked to the cause of ADHD - which were all discounted fairly quickly. That's the only visual testing I could find that even closely matches this group's ideas.
To label a new test as a possible CURE for ADHD is beyond misleading. It cannot give any validity to this claim as "CURE" needs YEARS of study and follow-up before they can even dare claim this. Otherwise it's deception of the lowest calibre. A cure cannot even be achieved until they can show positively in clerical tests (done in classic scientific testing methodology) that they have an actual case to follow this up. I believe from what they have released they certainly do not.
It would be very convenient to show that glasses or visual training/retraining could "cure" ADHD. It cannot - it would be easily proven and be in the scientific journals if it were. This would be like a clinic being able to cure cancer and saying "only we have the secret". Smells like a scam then it's probably a scam.
Johnson - I believe you must be a paid employee of this company. You say you have ADHD but act more like a higher priced salesman. If this company truly believes it has more than snake oil to offer then I say open their studies to the scientific community and let them show the validity. They can hold patents on the methods and manner of the "cure" so they don't have to fear copies of them being created. If they truly are real then the money to be made would justifiably be great indeed. So let them do this! So far I have seen nothing so I assume they wish to be silent like faith healers, psychic surgeons and scientology narcotics treatment centers.
Reisa is a good friend of mine here and unblemished in intent and judgement. If you'd take the time to look at past postings you'd have no doubt of that. We all here have seen the claims and they are financially based and therefore of dubious nature right from the start. And if there is no backing in the scientific community or any validity in practice then they are not even an option. Any first year university student could determine that right away.
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Be careful with this drug.
Strattera: 130 reports of suicidality in 1 month, 760 cardiac disorders and 172 liver damage reports.
http://www.lawyersandsettlements.com/articles/strattera.html
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You started this topic with this statement, and you expect everyone to fall over in amazement? We should take your *cough* "brilliant" suggestion --- um what was your suggestion? I don't recall you having a point anywhere in this post.
Instead of clarifying, you post an article insinuating that our doctors take bribes, and follow up with a miracle cure. Are you trying to confuse us into quitting our meds? You are an idiot, and a boring one at that.
REISA: Unlike people who genuinely have ADHD and would appreciate a cure if it becomes possible, you seem to have a VERY BIG problem with even entertaining the idea of a possible drug free ADHD free life.
You have A HUGE problem, so bad that you are resorting to posting anything you can think of to try to somehow 'get rid of' news you so badly DO NOT WANT TO HAPPEN.
You have given yourself away.
Do you know that all the doubt and the bad attidudes that us genuine adders experience is because there are so many people faking it that people without ADHD look at them and assume EVERYONE is faking it?
People like you give genuine ADHD sufferers a hard time and a bad name.
Johnson38766.3159606481
http://aca.ninemsn.com.au/stories/2034.asp
Space technology could provide ADHD cure
15 February 2006
Watch video
A new technology has been launched following trials in Australia and the UK which offers parents of children with Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD) a drug-free alternative.
Known as the Dore Program, the treatment claims to employ and expand dormant parts of the cerebellum, the "small brain" at the back of the head which controls things like balance, eye co-ordination and motor-neuron movements. The exercise makes the cerebellum bigger and, unlike drugs, the results are permanent.
The technology used to expand the cerebellum has been adapted from methods used to test astronauts returning from outer space who suffered from "space dyslexia". In these cases the astronauts were unable to differentiate between some letters, caused, possibly, by the effect of gravity on the inner ear.
In Britain, 40 primary school students diagnosed with dyslexia and ADHD appeared to be cured after one year of treatment.
Britain's leading learning difficulties guru, Professor Rod Nicolson, endorses the treatment saying: "In my view, Dore have stumbled across a cure for ADHD. The results are staggering and the studies suggest they are permanent in over 80 percent of the cases.
"This is the first permanent solution for Attention Deficit Hyperactive Disorder I have come across."
Dore claims there is already research showing correlation between the cerebellum and the skills of reading and spelling.
Dore Achievement Centres have been established in Sydney, Wagga Wagga, Parkes, Melbourne, Brisbane, Perth and Adelaide, with others to follow in Darwin and Hobart.
"I recently saw a discussion here about vision problems often being associated with ADHD. I'm not sure which section it was in but if that is the reason you so badly misread and misquoted the cost of the program stated (as it currently stands as private treatment) perhaps one of the members who talked about those eye problems could show you where to go to get it corrected. Sorry I do not remember who it was but expect someone will if you ask."
Johnson, get some manners and don't behave like a complete *ss to someone that has not said one mean word to you. And pardon me if I make mistakes. Perhaps you should share how you became the perfect human? Better yet, don't share a thing with me. Your attitude stinks and represents what kind of person you most likely are.
And as a side note, I NEVER implied that this information you posted does not have validity. You ignorantly clump people together.I didn't clump you together with anyone Sparco. You misquoted the article by doubling the cost of the therapy (as the cost stands at the moment) and I answered you.
I have now added REISA: to my replies to her.
I have answered the comments by Reisa. Replies to Reisa were not intended as replies to you.You misquoted the article, perhaps because of poor vision? At this point in time I do not believe Reisa genuinely has ADHD and I think you probably do.
I have NOT ignorantly clumped you and Reisa or anyone else together? I answered GlenW and assume he genuinely suffers from ADHD and that when he made his comment had truly not understood the point of the articles. He has not (at least as yet) come back in the way Reisa did and perhaps that is because he now DOES understand and may even be interested in the research on the POSSIBE permanent cure for ADHD as anyone with ADHD would naturally be. Auntie has not (at least as yet) come back in the way Reisa did and at the moment then I believe she too is genuinely ADHD (or related to someone who is) and so has an interest in what MIGHT show to be a cure for ADHD. Time will tell.
From the replies at this point, the only person I do not believe genuinely has ADHD is Reisa and that is because of the persistent negative and confrontational approach shown in her replies. The other initial responses might quite understandably have been down to either misunderstanding of article content or a defensive attack for fear that an anti adhd tirade was on its way.
Johnson38766.3178356482
Sorry, vision is fine. I saw the number 3000 and incorrectly remembered that figure in pounds. I wish I had bad vision. I saw some frames I would just love.
And yes, your reply was spiteful and mean. And yes, the paragraph was directed at myself. Perhaps it's your vision?
[QUOTE=Sparco]"I recently saw a discussion here about vision problems often being associated with ADHD. I'm not sure which section it was in but if that is the reason you so badly misread and misquoted the cost of the program stated (as it currently stands as private treatment) perhaps one of the members who talked about those eye problems could show you where to go to get it corrected. Sorry I do not remember who it was but expect someone will if you ask."
Johnson, get some manners and don't behave like a complete *ss to someone that has not said one mean word to you. And pardon me if I make mistakes. Perhaps you should share how you became the perfect human? Better yet, don't share a thing with me. Your attitude stinks and represents what kind of person you most likely are.
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So misquoting the amount, doubling it and more was a "mistake"? Do pardon me for assuming it was ADHD related sight problems and NOT jumping to the conclusion that it was an attempt to cast a negative light on the program. And pardon me for mentioning that the issue of eye problems and ADHD existed and that there was a link in here somewhere which might help you.
I'm in no way perfect, I have ADHD and all the 'imperfections' that go with it.
I know us Adders can be very sensitive, but it can be a bit overdone, overused as an excuse to divert attention from a possible cure you know.
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Sorry, vision is fine. I saw the number 3000 and incorrectly remembered that figure in pounds. I wish I had bad vision. I saw some frames I would just love.
And yes, your reply was spiteful and mean. And yes, the paragraph was directed at myself. Perhaps it's your vision?
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I am beginning to think you are rather good at diverting attention from anything that you don't want to see and don't want other people to see.
If you look back on this thread I posted up to date news. I was then subjected to a particularly offensive reply from Reisa.
I don't suppose you noticed? You haven't mentioned it, you haven't said anything pleasant yourself. You certainly didn't join the thread with any positive comment.
You didn't come in to say, that POSSIBLE cure thing 'is interesting but the cost could be a problem' (using the correct or incorrect figure) or anything like that.
Do you actually WANT an ADHD cure to be found? I don't know, you haven't given any opinion other than misquoting/mistaking figures and asking if champagne is served with it.
All I did was post valid information. Look at the responses that followed it (with the exception of the first person to reply which was perfectly polite and reasonable).
I'll only come back to THIS thread with updates if and when they become available.
Johnson38766.3578703704
to funny....
Oh, and yea,
ya brain f*rt,
3000 pounds (That's money in the UK) is around 6000 bucks (That's money in the US). Now do ya see how it could have been a mistake? Currency conversion???
Sparco38766.6221990741Jonhson hello and all adhd America.
We see very good news also in India! News run very fast.
http://www.medindia.net/news/view_news_main.asp?x=7880
I look at film you send. Here is film of Dore girl ill, why father make help for girl and much children also.
http://www.dorecenters.com/WSfromDVD.asx
I send pm for you more good news.
Gurjit
Hey, I was just sitting on the side-lines eating popcorn and watching my friends respond to you. Thought I'd sit this one out.
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I like to keep 'Up to Date' with news on matters pertaining to ADHD whenever possible.
You do? Gosh guys, why didn't we ever think of keeping up with things pertaining to ADHD?
The Dore Program mentioned above (did you overlook the word ADHD?) was in yesterday's news on several sites, first originating from a BBC broadcast from Sydney, Australia. A radical totally drug free possible cure that academics believe might be a permanent solution is exciting and worth keeping up to date with. It may in the near future mean the end of ADHD and the end of the necessity of drug treatment and the side effects that can come with it.
I have an idea. You go try it and come back and tell us how it worked for you. Good luck, nice meeting you. Don't let the door hit ya on the way out. 
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All these meds for concentration have bad sideffects. My solution teach using a different method then.
I am looking into the Lindamood-bell method at the Dallas center. Son and I both going while he is on Spring break.It is a sensory-cognnitve approach.
Be careful with this drug.
Strattera: 130 reports of suicidality in 1 month, 760 cardiac disorders and 172 liver damage reports.
http://www.lawyersandsettlements.com/articles/strattera.html
Strattera - 130 Reports Of Suicidality In One Month
February 15, 2006. By Evelyn Pringle
A not yet released discussion paper written by the British Medicines and Healthcare Regulatory Agency, reveals that last fall, there were 130 reports of suicidality in a single month by patients treated with the attention deficit drug Strattera.
In addition, the paper reveals that there have also been more than 760 spontaneous reports of cardiac disorders, 172 reports of liver damage, and about 20 reports of completed suicides.
The large number of adverse event reports are exposed in a December 9, 2005, paper sent to the Swedish Medical Products Agency by the British agency. The information was obtained through FOIA-requests, and was released under a court order, according to Swedish investigative reporter Janne Larsson
A press release on the British discussion paper will be issued tomorrow morning, on February 16, 2006.
LOL!!!
That's about as mature as "I know you are but what am I?"! TOO funny!!
Every bit of "evidence" you bring is from one source - Dore. They haven't released info to others to confirm viability. That's another hint at quackery.
You work for them - admit it.
[QUOTE=Auntie]Hey, I was just sitting on the side-lines eating popcorn and watching my friends respond to you. Thought I'd sit this one out.
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i just popped some, i'll share with you.....
[QUOTE=Sparco]Wow, 00-00 for a 15 month treatment? Do I get champagne with that?[/QUOTE]
'Wynford Dore's exercise therapy costs around US$ 3,000 (GBP £1,700) and the treatment takes up to 15 months to complete.'
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Wow! That is a lot of money!!! Is there a money back guarantee if the treatment doesn't work?
I have been crawling using the free exercises you can find in a book in your local library - (If you buy the book it will only cost you .00) Stopping ADHD by O'Dell. It might be in your library under the first published name Stopping Hyperactivity by O'Dell. I have been doing these for a while and have had such good results, I would recommend the program to anyone to at least try. But to spend that much money?
Anni darling - I'd take crawling (with your guidance of course) ANY day over a 3000 dollar sham treatment!! As you've given testimony that I not only trust but believe (for you at least) that's better than some flim-flam that's an obvious sales pitch.
Money back?? I doubt they'll stay in business long - probably aiming for the Virgin Islands and a numbered account any day now.
[QUOTE=GlenW]LOL!!!
That's about as mature as "I know you are but what am I?"! TOO funny!!
Every bit of "evidence" you bring is from one source - Dore. They haven't released info to others to confirm viability. That's another hint at quackery.
You work for them - admit it.
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What a foolish response.