Lillian: Dyslexia is being helped with Vision therapy and working. It is a Visual processing problem. Part of there brain is under developed. I saw this on a dyslexia special on the news here a few years back. The 2 doing it had improved reading skills. Dyslexia professional will argue the validity. I say they are uninformed on sucess of VT. RN
In Vt the person stands on a tilt board and rocks it teaches rythum.
Sorry for bad spelling.
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Please don't apologize to me for your spelling. I don't care about that, at all.
Dyslexia is a phonological disorder, and it is this phonological weakness that all dyslexics share. Some researchers believe that there may be a visual component with dyslexia, as well, for some dyslexics, like my son, have weaknesses with visual/motor integration tasks. The visual component of dyslexia is hotly debated, however.
[QUOTE=oldtimer]I also have listened on the radio that adhd or add kids are more active inutero. Not our sons case at all. He was quite opposite this way. It is Eci's job to work with kids from birth to 3. School districts from 3 on. I say change Se now so kids now don't have to continue to fall in the tracks. Se kids don't have to pass state tets either. They also are suppose to be allowed to attend school til 22.I say now since more kids are coming to SE. Education altogether should change. If it where me we would have levels not grades. Your in a class based on what level at in that subject instead. I would also have easier curriculum. I wouldn't force sitting while learning either. Just my ideas. RN [/QUOTE]

Lillian: Dyslexia is being helped with Vision therapy and working. It is a Visual processing problem. Part of there brain is under developed. I saw this on a dyslexia special on the news here a few years back. The 2 doing it had improved reading skills. Dyslexia professional will argue the validity. I say they are uninformed on sucess of VT. RN
In Vt the person stands on a tilt board and rocks it teaches rythum.
Sorry for bad spelling.
oldtimer38769.306712963BUMP
Parents of children with ADHD, autism, etc will probably be very interested in this and might want to keep a watch on the progress of what seems an exciting possibility so far.
http://aca.ninemsn.com.au/stories/2034.asp
Space technology could provide ADHD cure
15 February 2006
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A new technology has been launched following trials in Australia and the UK which offers parents of children with Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD) a drug-free alternative.
Known as the Dore Program, the treatment claims to employ and expand dormant parts of the cerebellum, the "small brain" at the back of the head which controls things like balance, eye co-ordination and motor-neuron movements. The exercise makes the cerebellum bigger and, unlike drugs, the results are permanent.
The technology used to expand the cerebellum has been adapted from methods used to test astronauts returning from outer space who suffered from "space dyslexia". In these cases the astronauts were unable to differentiate between some letters, caused, possibly, by the effect of gravity on the inner ear.
In Britain, 40 primary school students diagnosed with dyslexia and ADHD appeared to be cured after one year of treatment.
Britain's leading learning difficulties guru, Professor Rod Nicolson, endorses the treatment saying: "In my view, Dore have stumbled across a cure for ADHD. The results are staggering and the studies suggest they are permanent in over 80 percent of the cases.
"This is the first permanent solution for Attention Deficit Hyperactive Disorder I have come across."
Dore claims there is already research showing correlation between the cerebellum and the skills of reading and spelling.
Dore Achievement Centres have been established in Sydney, Wagga Wagga, Parkes, Melbourne, Brisbane, Perth and Adelaide, with others to follow in Darwin and Hobart.
Hello adhd America.
We read in India also very good news.
http://www.medindia.net/news/view_news_main.asp?x=7880
Film story of Dory girl show why father make help.
http://www.dorecenters.com/WSfromDVD.asx
Hey: Chiropractors are supposed to cure everything too. Unfortunately I fell for that one. No help there.
.IMac38946.5023958333Did you see the other thread? This same guy started the thread with guess what??? Cut and paste articles regarding Ritalin (or one of the ADHD meds) deaths.
And when the Dole Program was mentioned a little comrade of his, GurjitSingh, comes up and vouches for this stuff just like he did on this thread.
I so wish we had an Administration that was on top of this stuff. I don't mind if someone posts an article once about the latest in the news but to see it over and over again is so irritating.
There are so many thread bombarded by Trolls comments that I don't know how a new person would care to dig through all of it.
Yup. I guess they expect us to disregard the mainstream community and spend big $$$ for gimmicks that are supposed to "cure" these disorders. It's a big yawn. We've had so many of these people. Gotta wonder if they sell these products or if they're just kids without kids who don't know what they're talking about. At any rate, if it costs $$$ and insurance doesn't cover it, I'd /ignore unless you're mega-rich. Then invest, but don't expect much. I'm in an autism group and we all know there is no cure. THat inclues Aspergers. The kids can improve greatly with the proper interventions, but they can't be cured. OlderMom38766.7094675926.IMac38946.5029050926Yep. I believe it was in October that the findings were published in the newspaper. Interesting finding. Just think...The day may be shortly upon us when an expectant mother can have her child tested for dyslexia inutero! I wonder how that is going to change Special Education? Will states be required to do educational interventions, as soon as the baby is born? Will there be preschool interventions? If so, it will be quite a change from the way it is today, where students often have to be in the third grade before it is recognized. lillian38766.7369791667Just surfing the net and reading folks experience with this Dole Program I found many people stopped posting after 7 or so months. Don't know why. Others early in the program said they saw small improvements and others said they saw none.
Cerebellar StimulationThere exist several exercise programs based on cerebellar stimulation that are used to treat ADHD, Aspergers and many learning difficulties like dyslexia, dyspraxia, etc. Most prominent are the DORE program, the Learning Breakthrough Program™ (which served as the basis for the DORE program[5] ) and the Brain Gym®, based on Educational Kinesiology.
These drug-free programs include balance, coordination, eye and sensory exercises that specifically stimulate the cerebellum. For instance, it is assumed by the creators of the DORE program that the cerebellum of people with learning difficulties or disorders like ADHD and Aspergers is underdeveloped. The medical professionals at DORE call this Cerebellar Developmental Delay (CDD) [6]. By improving the patient’s cerebellar function many of the symptoms can be reduced or even eliminated permanently.
Although some of the above mentioned exercise programs (claim to) have a high success rate, they are still controversial and not widely accepted due to a substantial lack of scientific evidence.
Recent brain science has provided new data on the cerebellum. According to Bower and Parsons(2003) “the cerebellum may play important roles in short-term memory, attention, impulse control, emotion, higher cognition, the ability to schedule and plan tasks“. Some researchers directly link the cerebellum to ADHD and dyslexia, e.g. a neuroimaging study conducted in 2002 by Xavier Castellanos and Judith L. Rapoport and published in August 2003 in Scientific American, revealed that in children with ADHD the cerebellum is reduced in size. Such evidence however supports the role of the cerebellum in ADHD but does not support treatments like the DORE program that claim to alter functioning of the cerebellum.
Moreover, independent research that is currently under way on the DORE program, yielded only suggestive results that the method works. However, more research is necessary in order to prove the validity of this alternative treatment. As Dr. Hallowell states in Delivered from Distraction, “we must remain critical, even sceptical, until we have a full body of research to give us a definite answer”(p.238)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attention-deficit_hyperactivity _disorder#Cerebellar_Stimulation
Great! First, we got bombarded by the Scientologists all coming on the board under different names, and now we have the DORE people
. Argh! Trust me, dyslexia cannot be "cured." Strategies can be taught to help overcome it, but the kid will always have it. It IS neurological, and MAINSTREAM scientists have found a genetic marker for it. Autism can't be cured either, but who cares about reality
My autistic son is the "Juggling Master" of his class. He loves to juggle and can do three items at once. It's great for his self-esteem, but he's still on the autistic spectrum. He does improve every year, but I doubt it's the juggling. My son's early extreme impulsivity has improved so much that I wouldn't even call him impulsive anymore. I don't know if that's because he is austic spectrum other than ADHD or because of all his interventioins plus maturity, but it's very welcome (again I don't think it's the juggling) :) OlderMom38766.856400463I read something similar to this recently...it suggested exercises such as juggling balls to develop eye-hand coordination. So I thought I'd have my son try it---can't hurt. If it didn't help, I thought, at least he'd learn something new!
Anyway, I only started having my son toss a small ball up and down, one hand at a time, then alternating with the other hand for the same number of times each a little over two weeks ago, everyday. From doing one hand at a time, now he can toss with one and catch with the other, hardly missing anymore.
Maybe it's just my positive thinking, but I think he's been a little better at controlling his compulsiveness, hyperactivity this past week. He's still on 27 mg Concerta (has been last three months) but if I continue to see improvement, I may ask his doctor about lowering his dosage back to the 18 mg until I can wean him off it completely.
While I am here answering another thread, it seems appropriate to leave the message here too.
Dore studies I have been looking at the last two days:
http://www.ddat.co.uk/docs/ResearchStudy4.pdf
http://www.ddat.co.uk/docs/ANGLESEY_GWYNEDD_LEA.pdf
http://www.ddat.co.uk/docs/WARWICKSHIRE_LEA_STUDY_SUMMARY.pd f
http://www.ddat.co.uk/docs/Bedfordshire_EAZ_report.pdf
I don't know if there are pdf files for the following but here are the basic details:
Stafford Goal Prison Service Study showed "Significant reduction in ADHD symptoms and depression symptoms Significant reduction in risk of dyslexia 87% of prisoners said the programme helped.
University College of London fMRI study started in May 2004. A long term PhD study with 45 children involved. The study is looking at both the structure of the cerebellum and the function of the cerebellum during activities associated with reading and dyslexia. The second part will look at cerebellar performance changes over time in those completing the Dore programme.
University of Sheffield, England, are supporting several PhD students and undergraduates researching into different aspects of dyslexia and cerebellum function projects: 1. This project is assessing dyslexic people on a number of tests of balance function and eye blink reflex responses. Project 2 This project is a collaborative project with the academic radiology department at Sheffield School of Medicine. It will be assessing the structure and function of the cerebellum in dyslexia. Project 3 This project is assessing the use of EEG (electric brain wave patterns) and Brain Evoked Potentials in dyslexia and ADHD.
Bristol Young Offenders Study: This study is a collaboration between the Dore foundation, Somerset and Avon Police, the Probation Services and the department of criminology at Portsmouth University who are assessing and treating 30 young offenders with Dore programme. This long term study is looking at academic performance and measures of ADHD and dyslexic symptoms as well as careful assessments of re-offending behaviour and subjective changes.
A USA university study on ADHD and Dore, the first phase of which is said to have been planned for fall, 2005, but I don't know if it actually has started yet.
Given the success of the pdf linked studies above, further (British?) Education Board studies are planned shortly, together with extensions of current Education studies.
Cohort Studies data on the changes taking place in over 7000 subjects who have used the Dore programme are said to be in the process of being written up and in order to be submitted for publication in the UK and USA within the next 12 months, which I believe may be upwards of 6 months depending on the date of the information I got these from.
Apparently approaches are being made to more "UK University" to discuss future projects looking at dyslexia, dyspraxia (DCD) and ADHD.
The Dore program is based on the work of a UK university professor who is known to dismiss what he conceives to be 'snake oil salesmen' and who was directing his research into dyslexia, rather than ADHD at the time, Professor Rod Nicholson.
From 2003:
'But last November, research by David Reynolds of Exeter University (former head of the Government's numeracy task force and a non-executive director of DDAT) into 35 children who had received treatment at the centre described "significantly greater improvements" in manual dexterity, reading and verbal fluency compared with their peers. SATs results at the school involved, Balsall Common primary in Warwickshire, have improved.
Professor Rod Nicholson of Sheffield University has conducted extensive research into the role of the cerebellum, and acted as a consultant to DDAT when it was setting up its programme. While the link between abnormalities in the cerebellum and dyslexia are well established, correcting the outward signs of this malfunction - poor co-ordination and balance - does not necessarily "cure" dyslexia, he says. "It is another step to training the cerebellum that will therefore improve your reading." Nevertheless, he says, the results are "extremely promising". '
Sometime during this research on dyslexia, ADHD showed as also being positively affected by the program which lead the same Professor Rod Nicholson, in February 2006, http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4715782.stm, stated:
"This is the first permanent solution for attention deficit hyperactive disorder I have come across".
I don't find that statement a SURE FIRE CERTAINTY OF SUCCESS.
I find it HOPEFUL. And that is why I posted it. I really do not understand why posting it has been received so badly. As an Adder I would be very happy IF further studies continue to show the same promising results as the ones that lead Professor Nicholson to make that statement. IF it proves to be a cure for ADHD.
What is exciting research today may prove to be less exciting tomorrow. Likewise, that research can be tomorrow's breakthrough. This relatively new reseach (all research has a starting point) is, at the moment, proving to have promising results.
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Did you see the other thread? This same guy started the thread with guess what??? Cut and paste articles regarding Ritalin (or one of the ADHD meds) deaths.
And when the Dole Program was mentioned a little comrade of his, GurjitSingh, comes up and vouches for this stuff just like he did on this thread.
I so wish we had an Administration that was on top of this stuff. I don't mind if someone posts an article once about the latest in the news but to see it over and over again is so irritating.
There are so many thread bombarded by Trolls comments that I don't know how a new person would care to dig through all of it.
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Whats the big deal with this Dore program Auntie? It was posted twice. In the other thread and then here as it should be of interest to parents of ADHD. Twice is not 'over and over again'. There are a lot of things here that ARE posted over and over again which you do not complain about. You left a negative response there and and then you popped up over here.
Why are the negative responses from you and a couple of others the only rightful ones to you and ONE positive response which also turned up on both threads (as you did) are an outrageous irritation and shouldn't be allowed?
Is it that only one view should be expressed here? WHOOPS - it also has to be YOUR view, I must not forget Auntie's likes and dislikes are imperatively important and must be obeyed.
The Dore program early research findings must be absolutely useless. Auntie and a few friends of hers say so. Thats it then. Dore is BAD BAD BAD!
Editing. Thank you Gurjit.
Johnson38768.8155092593The Dore center was the first reason that I posted on this board. Having read about it in Hollowell's book I was ready to try it. The problem was, other than him, (who didn't have to pay for it) I couldn't find anyone who had successfully completed the program. Other than Dore itself, there just doesn't seem to be any Dore customers who have come to say, "hey! This works!" Even if I felt that I no longer was interested in this board because my son was cured, I would share the information of success. I tried to find confirmation from other sources as well. I finally came to the conclusion that not having 00 to just throw away, I would not be sending my son to the Dore center. The science just hasn't been confirmed. It would break my son's heart to go through a program and have it not work.