Apparently ADHD isn’t real!! | ADHD Information
I will be finding a new therapist. According to him ADHD is not real, it is infact the behaviour developed by all the other REAL disorders such as OCD, anxiety and depression.
He also said all my problems would be much better if I were to go back and study for in his opinion all my issues are a direct result of my being too intellegent for my job.
I have never heard a bigger load of f**ken bullsh*t in my life
Wow, what a great crap. You CAN'T be too intelligent for a job. Having a great intelligence doesn't mean you should have great difficulty working at mc'donalds.
What a crap.
Hey peita, I was trying to send you a PM. But your inbox is full. Can you please remove some old posts, so I can send you a PM (Personal Message)?
Thank you.
I had a many peoplle tell me that, when i was going through the process of dx for dd.
also taking meds is bad, i hear this all the time. I said well, next time you go to replenish your birthcontrol or high blood med. tell yourself it is bad for you. and remind yourself that sex is bad that way you don't have to worry about having kids so you wont need the bc.
find a new guy and fast.
I asked him what he would have told me when I was a teenager. If he would have told me to leave school and get a job maybe?
Why is it so hard to find a therapist who knows about ADHD and anxiety and treats the both?
Steven, I've emptied my inbox 
Lynnann, I'm going to remember that next time someone mention about the meds.
And Barb, the look on my face should have been enough to have killed him let alone given him ADHD!!!!!!
Sometimes I wish ADHD was contagious. I would then suggest you go breathe on the guy so he could find out how unreal it is!A couple of things are running through my head at this moment, but they are being trampled by the urge to smack your therapist. Grrrr!
Is this guy the one prescribing your meds? Hope not. If not, maybe your pdoc would have the name of somebody good. Or, you might try calling a pediatric pdoc and get a therapy referral.
In the backwater places of the universe, treatment options are at least a decade behind. For some reason childhood ADHD is more accepted and the kiddie pdocs are up on the latest stuff.
Can we light your therapist on fire? *evil grin*
Tell him that a bunch of people on these boards don't have OCD, depression, or anxiety. We just have a huge, steaming pile of ADD.Get a new doctor.
I have people telling me this all the time. It's very irritating to say the least. They say it's "all in your head" and ADD is an excuse to act the way I do. EXACTLY..it IS all in my head..why ya think I got the ADHD HUH?? lol sheesh
He was a social worker, not a doctor actually.
My ADHD traits are definately worse when I'm stressing or if my anxiety is bad.
I'm not a happy girl at the moment anyway 
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Why is it so hard to find a therapist who knows about ADHD and anxiety and treats the both?.[/quote]
Not only is your new 'ignorant' social worker incorrect in what they told you, as a matter of fact, it's just the opposite.
Very often people are diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder and even other personality disorders such as bi-polar, when just about all the symptoms are actually due to AD/HD, as in my case. Not that there aren't some people who are actually bipolar or have personality disorders, but in my case, they've totally dismissed my diagnoses of BPD and BP as being all due to ADHD, co-morbid with depression and anxiety, which yes, are symptoms of untreated ADHD. 
Also, I'm so fortunate (and thrilled), Peita Pan, that I've finally found some doctors and a behavioral therapist/social worker who do know oodles about ADHD and are treating it (me!
), along with my anxiety AND depression. 
GypsyWomyn38805.1698611111I LIKE being far too intelligent for my job. Much better than former jobs that taxed me mentally but I was working for idiots a lot of the time which frustrated me immensely and worried me all of the time.I know what is expected, unlike many past jobs.
I do my work, collect my pay and benefits and get the heck out of there like my pants were on fire. Simple as pie. Then I get to my real life and never think of the place I work.
I'd also hate to disagree with Pieta and the rest of you, don't want to agree with the bad shrink, but how many people with ADHD don't suffer from depression? He isn't saying ADHD isn't real but that it is a symptom of underlying stuff like depression and that sort of rings true to me........that they are related at least........but would he ever say depression isn't real but just a symptom of adhd? KWIM?
I don't argue this from a scientific aspect, just that I could believe, in myself, that they are one thing, depression and adhd. bUT THAT IS ONLY MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.
Actually I don't want to debate this at all. Never mind :-)
I think depression isn't real! Just an adhd symtom dammit
That is the strangest thing I have ever heard a doctor say. You would think an educated person would understand what is going on. Weird. I'm glad you are finding a new therapist [QUOTE=LTC1]about time you all showed up![/QUOTE]
I'll get a fire going........we'll camp down by the river of course.
i'll bring the marhmallowsabout time you all showed up!(I'm not too vain about the opinions I express here but I always start the fire. I am an artist at it! Very vain about my fire starting ability.)
mmmmm....marshmallows.
I'll fluff Peita's pillow.
And tuck her in.........
I also like to sketch every campsite. It is almost the only time I ever draw. I would fire the the therapist in a heartbeat! It is just too bad that these "Doubting Thomases" can't come down with some of our symptoms for a few days. Then, they would see that it really exists.It's from the movie, The Karate Kid.
[QUOTE=Peita Pan]
I will be finding a new therapist. According to him ADHD is not real, it is infact the behaviour developed by all the other REAL disorders such as OCD, anxiety and depression.
He also said all my problems would be much better if I were to go back and study for in his opinion all my issues are a direct result of my being too intellegent for my job.
I have never heard a bigger load of f**ken bullsh*t in my life
I say you SWEEP THE LEG and GET A BODY BAG, JOHNNY!
"I say you SWEEP THE LEG and GET A BODY BAG, JOHNNY!"
I don't understand a bit of this. I like you Al(linmymind).
[QUOTE=Tylerd88]
i like creative outlets and marshmellows
[/QUOTE]This sentence is so dang dead on good it should be on a t-shirt.
It exudes basic truth and good like a puppy, a sunset, a lake.
[QUOTE=Davidornado] Sadly, there is NO place safe for us. Even here, on the forums. We need a new frontier, one that's accessable now. Not future generations.
[/QUOTE]
The new step in this world is people with no I.
They'll need to get that from Wal-Mart.
After being told what to buy.
[QUOTE=Ascentionist] [QUOTE=The Resistance!]
People should not fear to go to the doctor because they can't afford it. That's wrong.
[/QUOTE]
I'm not very political. If I hear politics being discussed it is one of the only things that will shut me up. People who debate politcs are in some club (political party or left or right, like that) and their self-esteem in wrapped up in you having to agree with them. No ideas or debate or gray area - they are right.
I am also not violent. I abhor violence, mob violence maybe the most.
I am not anti-government, I don't believe in any conspiracy theory that I can think of.
But, when I see oil companies reporting all-time-record profits on one day, then next day whining about why they need to raise the price of gas which raises the price of EVERYTHING but mostly my longish commute to my low paying job, and when I contemplate how in the richest country possibly in the world you can only get good health care if you are rich, welll...................
I predict some shooting. Mob violence. People holding Doctors and hospitals hostage at gunpoint demanding care for a loved one.
But then I remember most Americans are at home stoned watching television and it would take the actual removal of their fat arses from the couch and walking away from the TV.
Hey, Resis,
Maybe we could create a TV series called something,
And depict a revolution there.
Maybe our ratings
audience
fans
w
o
u
l
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support a just cause... just because...
Hmmm. Free them with the very tool of their oppression?
There IS method in your madness, Sir. I will plot with you any day.
I just won't shoot anyone, OK?
Plot away
then we'll
plot a way
Hmmmmm,
Plotfully
appropo
"The blind sometimes lead the blind,
through shadowlands and troubled times"
"Who better to lead the blind, than the blind? Only they have been there..."
Davidornadog
San Jose, Costa Rica
America Central
8 Abril, 2006
Main point of the thread?
LOL
The main point of almost every thread is 'wander' I think!
Anyway back to the main point of the thread.............
Yes! Music, a guitar. We can sing redemption songs without even knowing the words.
<oh how poetic of me :-)>
Back to MY original thought, Good Luck Ascencionist.
I have to change Docs too, health insurance will pay more if I see one of their approved thugs. My old/current Doc's office made me feel like i was ordering a bucket of chicken or getting a loan. Busy corporation in full speed hum. It sucks.
The island of the misfit toys! I will never watch that show and see it the same again. I want to go watch it now!
But to the main point of the thread... I live in a small rural town. When I was growing up there were two doctors in town. They are still there, old, nearing retirement and obviously not as concerned about "new" things.
There are actually three doctors now. I started going to the third after my absolutely wonderful HMO forced me to switch. But I like him. He's younger, he listens and seems to actually consider that I might know something about my own illnesses and pains. I went in last week and asked his receptionist if he had a history of treating ADHD and she said yes. I scheduled an appointment for this coming Friday. I am fidgeting in anticipation...or is it anticipation? Anyway, back to my original thought...what was it? Oh! So I am still afraid he'll diagnose me and just prescribe me medicine and send me on my way. Even though I think this guy is the best doctor I've ever been to I still don't have a whole lot of faith in him.
I feel like I need a lot of other help. Fix me, I'll feel better, but I still don't know how the rest of the world works. I have some serious learning to do I think.
And my wife is so good. She is a special ed teacher, moderate and severe disabilities. All of her five kids have been diagnosed with ADHD. We're both perplexed that she didn't diagnose me sooner, but I attribute that to love being blind. And she doesn't know my thought processes either. She didn't believe a lot of my behavior was symptoms until I started explaining my thought processes.
She is very supportive. I am so blessed to have her. She gave (loaned) me her PDA to help me. I've been using it for silly stuff so far, but I want to get in the habit of using it. It almost seems to me like it was designed by people with ADHD for people with ADHD.
Anyway, back to my original point (I hope you guys enjoy my writing because I tend to be long winded): My father went to my old doctor because he's stubborn that way and the old doctor prescribed him medicine for depression and told him he really didn't know anything about ADHD and wouldn't be able to help him. But at least he was completely honest. He didn't slam the door in his face and didn't insult my father's intelligence.
Anyway, I'll find out in a few days if my new doctor is worth the paper his license is printed on.
Ascentionist38811.3685300926
Ohhh, that's so sweet
All jokes aside, that would be sooo nice at the moment.
Nice to see everyone here and comfy 
If Resistance is going to sketch by the glow of the campfire, who brought the guitar for the sing-a-long??
jerbear's doing a fantastic job with the marshmallows. Keep em coming.
See what the rest of the world miss out on. Oh and that idiotic person that doesn't believe in ADHD
He probably doesn't believe in faeries either 
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I just had to re read all that four times and I'm still slightly confused 
My brain is struggling badly tonight
I think at times they are just reactions of sane sensitive people to an insane and absurd world.
I am, for the record, both ADHD and suffer depression.
Maybe I am paranoid too.
I believe the world is out to get me and hammer me into some hole I don't fit in.
But that could be sanity and reason. Hell if I know.
[QUOTE=Peita Pan]
Nothing to do but keep searching
.....why don't we consider finding a place where we, you and I, are not considered broken?
[QUOTE=The Resistance!] [QUOTE=Peita Pan]
Nothing to do but keep searching
.....why don't we consider finding a place where we, you and I, are not considered broken?
[/QUOTE]
Now that....Is Good
We are as we are and we aren't mistakes.Depression definitely makes my ADD symptoms worse, but I don't think they are related in any organic sense. I have ADD symptoms whether I'm depressed or not. The reason I'm ever depressed is usually because of my repeated ADD-related failures. However, I am NOT clinically depressed (long-term depression for no reason-- there is a reason for my depression; thy name is ADD). [QUOTE=Countrygirl]
Now that....Is Good
We are as we are and we aren't mistakes.[/QUOTE]
Resist being labeled a mediocrity by the mediocre!
(I AM a mediocre speller tho..........)
I have a wistful expression on my face right now thinking about that island of misfit toys.
Resistance, lead the way. Country Girl.....You coming
<FONT face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" color=#660033 size=4>I have a wistful expression on my face right now thinking about that island of misfit toys.
<FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#660033 size=4>Resistance, lead the way. Country Girl.....You coming
Already there! I love the smell of movie references in the morning.
ADHD is a definate reality, but the rest of the world is an illusion. Or maybe reality is an illusion. Just a matter of perspective.
Countrygirl38818.7860416667
Well, I went through eleven different therapist today and none of them had any interest let alone knowledge of adult ADHD.
Nothing to do but keep searching
I went to a cousellor a month or so ago to try to get some help dealing with some family issues, and my counsellor decided that my underlying problem is severe OCD tendencies(my room is nicknamed "The Pit")
No OCD symptoms that I could find in my life, although the search goes on just to be thorough.
Anyway, he then told me that I won't be able to work on my problems, ADHD inclucded, unless I first fix my coughnonexistentcough OCD issues...needless to say I have not been back. It's annoying because he is OCD, has a bunch of OCD books in his office, and probably hasn't researched any other disorders, so of course OCD is my problem since he doesn't know any others
bah, sometimes I don't know why I try to get help for anything.(except from you guys)
i like creative outlets and marshmellows, sounds like a perfect place to be right now!
Maybe we could set up our own counselling service around the campfire whilst singing and eating marshmallows.
Resistance can sketch the scene or we could have drawing as a creative outlet and analyse each others work?
I reckon we could come up with a much more accurate diagnosis for each of us
Nothing to do but keep searching
.....why don't we consider finding a place where we, you and I, are not considered broken?
[/QUOTE]
Now that....Is Good
We are as we are and we aren't mistakes.[/QUOTE]
Hey, remember this one?
I do not suffer from ADHD. I rather enjoy it. It's those around me that appear to suffer.
And this one:
ADHD is the next evolutionary step for mankind.
Sadly, there is NO place safe for us. Even here, on the forums. We need a new frontier, one that's accessable now. Not future generations.
Topic: Apparently ADHD isn’t real!!Last I heard it was a cancer.
I can understand such an opinion from an uninformed bystander, but am surprised that a doctor of western medicine would say such a thing... You know, regardless of what one's personal opinion of ADD may be, you cannot dispute the fact that a large number of people have greatly improved their quality of life by engaging in ADD treatment.
What is the purpose of modern medicine if not to improve the quality of life?
[QUOTE=The Resistance!]I love the smell of movie references in the morning. [/QUOTE]
I prefer
Napalm*.
Nothin' like the smell of spent powder, either.
*Appocalypse Now
 [QUOTE=The Resistance!]Main point of the thread?
LOL
The main point of almost every thread is 'wander' I think!
Anyway back to the main point of the thread.............
Yes! Music, a guitar. We can sing redemption songs without even knowing the words.
<oh how poetic of me :-)>
Back to MY original thought, Good Luck Ascencionist.
I have to change Docs too, health insurance will pay more if I see one of their approved thugs. My old/current Doc's office made me feel like i was ordering a bucket of chicken or getting a loan. Busy corporation in full speed hum. It sucks.
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I think the whole switch to HMOs has been like the downfall of the quality of medicine in this country. Of course my first hand dealings with medical insurance have been since about the time of the change.
Why am I not entitled to decent medical care? I don't understand it. Are you more worthy only if your company sees the value in getting the best plan (if there is such a thing)? Are you worthy only if you are so stinking rich you can pay your medical expenses out of pocket and still have heat and water and light in your house?
It's not right when I have to make decisions like: "Do we take him to the doctor before his asthma gets too bad or do we wait?" because I am afraid of the impending medical bills. My son deserves better than that. He spent three or four days in ICU once and all we could think was, "I hope his docotor gets here soon and discharges him so we don't have to pay for another night." When she failed to show up the last night we were there I was ready to go track her down at home and bring her back at gunpoint to discharge him. I mean, the METER IS RUNNING!
People should not fear to go to the doctor because they can't afford it. That's wrong.
Ascentionist38814.1650231481 [QUOTE=GregB]
What is the purpose of modern medicine if not to improve the quality of life?
[/QUOTE]
To make a frickin' lot of money, to exercise your control freakishness, and to feed your ego.
If your a modern doctor.
And hospital.
And insurance company.
In America.
I was working with this woman who said she had been a bus driver for 15 years previously, she went on to say " you know those hyper kids? they don't belong in the same schools as normal kids"
she went on and on! I couldn't say anything I know if I did It wouldn't have been pretty. I did have visions of jumping over the table and choking her
She was fired 2 weeks later