CRAWLING: not a milestone? | ADHD Information
Yet this guy says to encourage gently. So why even bother if crawling isn't important?
"Don't push him; don't force him on his stomach if he's unhappy; don't try to get him to move his arms and legs. Relax. Enjoy him. Remove any obstacles to crawling that you can identify. Gently encourage him. Marvel as the inner drive to grow propels him forward, oh so fast. "
Not all kids crawl. I have one who walked at seven months (you should have seen how weird THAT looked). She skipped crawling altogether and went straight to walking/running. IMac38945.5450810185I think it is because some kids skip crawling and some kids do non-traditional crawling. Just a wild guess.I was told at SI workshop very important skill for everyone. Our daughter walked arounf furniture and crawled both at 6 months. No disorders. Son didn't crawl til 9 months walked at 16 months.
Dr.'s have told me boys are more likely diagnosed and disorder likely. Girls are more over looked and skipped cause they hide things more.
IMac38945.5458912037Koko wrote:
I have a relative who didn't crawl as a baby. She just scooted around sitting in a pie plate
that is too funny. My daughter who is not Adhd kind of did the same thing. I think the crawling discussion is very educational and these discussions prompt parents to do more research and then decide for themselves. We all learn from each other and everyone has a different point of view or opinion about whether they feel there is any validity to the treatment being discussed. Opposing views is what leads to more research which is a good thing because research can lead to dertemining that conclusively, the treatment is effective or ineffective. The problem with proving these types of treatments like crawling to be effective treatment for Ahdhd is that a double blinded study cant be performed. The same thing holds true for biofeedback but the more children are recieiving this treatment, the more we see that it can be for some a very effective tool for treatment of Adhd. Its just very costly unfortunately.
According to the American Pediatices Association, some children never crawl but use alternative methods of getting around but whats most important is that they learn to coordinate both sides of their bodies. Some people may naysay a treatment and some might explore it. Its human nature and the best discoveries are made prompted by controversy. Hopefully one day we will find a cure and these discussions will be a thing of the past. I think everyone can agree on that.
IMac,
What is your feeling about this? Do you think crawling exercises are a waste of time? Just wondering.
[QUOTE=Koko]I have a relative who didn't crawl as a baby. She just scooted around sitting in a pie plate.
[/QUOTE] How cute is that!!! I bet everyone had to just giggle at that little one!!! I have a relative who didn't crawl as a baby. She just scooted around sitting in a pie plate.
Well, look who popped up...two little peas. Which proves my point. Posted to cause irritation.
BTW: There is always a majority of naysayers whenever a new idea unfolds. Naysay away...we'll see who has the last laugh.
IMac38945.5455208333How many there any other books are there about the connection of crawling+stnr=ADHD?
crawling is important it help the relflex STNR mature...this is one of the theories of what may cause ADHD...one of the posters on the alternative board crawls and performs other exercises that help mature the STNR reflex and swears it is helping...The Book this is based upon is called Stopping ADHD joemom38824.5512847222
Joemom,
I agree, crawling is an important reflex. Why would all the other stages be important and crawling not be? This was just posted to irritate those who are trying the crawling exercises. Nothing more nothing less.
IMac38945.5461805556What is the Ph.D comment supposed to mean?
Good evasive answer. I wanted to say that, as a mom of a 15 mo old child with LOBPI, aka Erbs Palsy(injurednewborn.com), crawling is a VERY importans skill. My child has been in OT and PT since she was 6 weeks old, and although she could not bear weight to crawl until she was 9 months old, I was told constantly how important a function this is to learn. It helps the bone to grow an develop, as well as prepares the child for future tasks such as tying shoes,writing,etc.
That is not to say that a child may not compensate in any area to gain the acheived goal of mobility.
Hit_N_the_wall38824.5702662037IMac38945.5465625
well, my son did a "spider crawl" (on feet and hands not knees and elbows.) It was the funniest thing you would ever see. But he was walking at 6 months, so it didn't last long.
Again, If there are any other books about this crawling exercise, I'd be delighted to read it, too. I don't know about crawling being a mile stone. My sister never crawled. she is not adhd or add. She's the "normal" person. if there is such a thing.
IMac38945.5468634259hay littlecrazy. my son had a hard time with tyeing his shoes too. I did not think he would ever learn to do it.[QUOTE=ogram]
well, my son did a "spider crawl" (on feet and hands not knees and elbows.) It was the funniest thing you would ever see. But he was walking at 6 months, so it didn't last long.
Too funny ogram I used to call my son spider man and now I look at the home video's from when he was a baby and I gasp
well, my son did a "spider crawl" (on feet and hands not knees and elbows.) It was the funniest thing you would ever see. But he was walking at 6 months, so it didn't last long.
Too funny ogram I used to call my son spider man and now I look at the home video's from when he was a baby and I gasp
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It was cute while it lasted. Too bad I couldn't keep him that age. But, life happens. lol
Funny! If it's not a developmental milestone than why do doctors forms ask at what month the child crawled?[QUOTE=lilbitcrazy]Funny! If it's not a developmental milestone than why do doctors forms ask at what month the child crawled?[/QUOTE]
That's a great question!!! I always thought it was, but not for the stnr, but for the learning mobility. 
but hay, what ever works for you, do it.
I wanted to say that, as a mom of a 15 mo old child with LOBPI, aka Erbs Palsy(injurednewborn.com), crawling is a VERY importans skill. My child has been in OT and PT since she was 6 weeks old, and although she could not bear weight to crawl until she was 9 months old, I was told constantly how important a function this is to learn. It helps the bone to grow an develop, as well as prepares the child for future tasks such as tying shoes,writing,etc.
That is not to say that a child may not compensate in any area to gain the acheived goal of mobility.
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Thanks for sharing, Hit! That's interesting because my ds never crawled but pulled myself along using his left arm mostly. He had a great deal of trouble learning to tie his shoes and still prefers not to and his handwriting leaves a lot to be desired. He's right-handed so makes me wonder.
Imac, I would love to share a website for the information on crawling. But all the information I posted was a discussion personally with 2 OT's, 3 PT's,a hand a nerve specialist, and 2 orthopaedic surgeons, at Shriners Hospital for Children. However, if I do come across a site with that information, I will definately post the url for you. I will do some searching and see what I can find.
As for the url of the other site, it is actually a private forum. I am not the administrator, so I can not give you anything off that site. Sorry about that, I know it is frustrating when there is information you need and you can not get access to it. But the board is private due to lurking lawyers and harassing odoctors.But the same topic has been raised on the United Brachial Plexus site. It is UBPN.com.
Best of luck
IMac38945.5476736111IMac, I found one site that has some supporting information. I realize that myyoungest daughters injury is not the same thing, but through dealing with that injury is how I learned. I di dnot just want to say "oh I know it is" without supporting information. The crawling is not just for injured children though.Please understand that.
Anyhow, here is one of them, and when I find the others I will post them too, if you wish.This article is by Dr. Peter Fysch. Hope it helps yalls discussion.
http://www.chiroweb.com/archives/13/12/20.html
Hit_N_the_wall38825.6451967593IMac38945.5481597222IMac38945.5484375IMac38945.5479050926IMac I will check and see. Maybe the way I am wording this is causing confusion. Crawling is combination of gross and fine motor skills..and motor skills are a important developmental milestone. Does that make more sense? Here is a simple chart of the milestones.
COGNITION (thinking, reasoning, problem-solving, understanding)
Language(expressive and receptive abilities)
ATTENTION (staying on task, noticing details)
Behavior and self control (impulsivity, temperament, turn-taking, tolerating frustration)
Motor Coordination (gross/fine motor, crawling,jumping, hopping, throwing/catching, drawing, stacking)
SOCIAL INTERACTION (initiating peer contact, group play)
Self Help (dressing, eating,washing)
IMac, that was my point, it is a developmental milestone that is extremely important. Yes it is true some children never crawl, there for the need for compensation in other areas.
Lilbitcrazy, you are welcome, I would not typically combine two totally different topics, but it was to make a point how important crawling is. This was a hot topic on another forum(not adhd) so I learned a lot from it.
IMac38945.5472685185IMAc, yes, we are in agreemnet that Dr.Greene's credentials are reputable. I read the thread, and found it interesting as well. I agree that there are several charts out there. All vary in the example of each skill, but basically they are te same. I did not get that one from any one place though, it was a memory of what I have been told over the last 14 months from all the specialist we have seen. It would be simpler if it were all posted on one site with specifics, but then, what about any part of the medical field is simple. Just as each child will develop their milestones differently, so will each docotors opinion.