Lilbitcrazy,
Your eight-year-old son sounds sooooooo much like my son, when he was eight!!!
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Exhausting aren't they! As much as I love him sometimes I just want to sit on him to stop the chaos and maybe a gag for the noises.
You posted in another topic, how your son comes home from school and tosses the backpack and kicks the shoes off sending them flying through the air. When I read that I was seeing my 8 yr ds and the countless number of times he's done that. Ahh, the joys!
[QUOTE=almostsane]Hello everyone. I would like to know if your child is like mine and what the diagnosis was:
My daughter is seven going on seventeen! (My Dad use to say that all the time. Now I know what he ment!)
* If peers tease - he gets really upset and may hit in retaliation. (even on meds)
I don't know that my girlie recognizes teasing for what it is. She is pretty much off in her own world most of the time
* Acts goofy - in inappropriate places like stores or dr's offices, etc. (off meds)
Being called goofy is high praise in our family!
* Get's very upset if you tell him "shut up", "none of your business."
So do I!
* Likes to play with kids 2-3 years younger.
She will play with whoever's around.
* Talks loud! This is most of the time. (off meds and sometimes on meds if upset)
* Has hardly any friends - social skills are not that great.
She has a few friends. But I've always been of the opinion that it's better to have a few "good" friends than a large circle of people that you just kind of know.
* Has LD in reading comprehension and just HATES reading. He is extremely behind in reading for his age.
enjoys reading, but I wouldn't say loves it. Her reading and spelling skills are far above her grade level.
* Is very good with transition.
Terrible, terrible! Hates transition with a passion not to be denied. She's been in a combined 1/2 class for the past two years, and I'm not looking forward what going to third grade is going to bring!
* Does not curse.
* You speak to him nicely and calmly he can be the sweetest guy ever.
* Extremely honest!
* Does not like sports.
Her phrase: "I'm not really a sports girl"
[/QUOTE]Hi! My 10 year old son is just like yours in so many ways. In first grade, he was diagnosed by the school system with ADHD. He tests at a genius level but performs way below his grade level. We chose not to medicate, and each year, life was getting harder for him. We took a chance in December and tried a nutritional supplement called Reliv (I know what you are thinking, I did too), and after three months, the changes have been dramatic! The sense of peace we now have is immeasurable. Please contact me if you want more information, you have nothing to loose! My only hope is to help other families who are in the same situation.
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You really should try to find a NeuroPsych who will maybe take payments. In many ways he sounds like my autistic spectrum son, but "good with transitions"--that threw me. It does sound like more than ADHD, but if you don't get him evaluated beyond school, you won't know what. My daughter has CAPD, but she is very socially astute and has tons of friends and loves sports. Does your son have narrow interests? Love computers/cartoons/videogames? Any way you can find a NeuroPsych--I'd do it. My son will sing, dance etc. and do it in public too. ASD kids are often disinterested in what people think of them--half the time they don't even notice. My own son is NOT looking for attentioin. He's just being himself...lol. He'd rather NOT have people bugging him. He is only social within his family and even then he often wanders off alone to his room. ASD is probably the closest (high functioning). I personally never say "shut up" to my son. I don't say "none of your business" in a mean way, but I do say, "That's adult stuff, honey. You don't need to know that right now." My son is very sweet, doesn't swear (even at almost 13) and is very young for his age, but extremely loving. Sometimes he seems very oblivious. If somebody teases him, he gets upset, but doesn't fight back. He gets over it in a nanosecond. ASD kids often make annoying high pitched noises. It's a "stim." Kids with Tourette's Syndrome can have vocal tics. Good luck.
OlderMom38840.1960416667* If peers tease - he gets really upset and may hit in retaliation. (even on meds)
Yes, he's 14 and my 9-year-old knows how to push his buttons. After he went off of Dextrostat and onto Strattera, he gained about 50 lbs. in one year! He is now about 25 lbs. overweight and gets teased a lot! He gets very upset, but who wouldn't?
* Acts goofy - in inappropriate places like stores or dr's offices, etc. (off meds)
Used to do this ALL THE TIME. Can't tell you how many grocery stores I left because of it.
* Get's very upset if you tell him "shut up", "none of your business."
I think that's normal.
* Likes to play with kids 2-3 years younger.
I think because he's always been a little socially immature, this is why. However, he does play with kids his own age.
* Talks loud! This is most of the time. (off meds and sometimes on meds if upset)
Talks loud, smacks his food, and generally is a very loud person no matter what. Gotta love him though.
* Has hardly any friends - social skills are not that great.
True. My son is 14 and just wants to belong to a group. Sometimes he comes off as way too needy, and at this age kids are really selective. This worries me because I see ADHD kids get into drugs because they want so much to belong, they'll make bad choices.
* Has LD in reading comprehension and just HATES reading. He is extremely behind in reading for his age.
Could never get him to read and he absolutely hates it.
* Is very good with transition.
NOT good with transition. Doctor described the following to me: my son is the kind of kid who will start at the top of the hill. As he's riding down on his bike, there is a tree at the bottom of the hill. He could turn right or left to avoid hitting the tree. But because he has trouble with changing course, he'll just run into the tree. Not a good picture, but it somewhat describes it.
* Does not curse.
Normal 14 year old stuff. He'll curse when he's around friends but never around adults.
* You speak to him nicely and calmly he can be the sweetest guy ever.
He can be extremely polite when he wants.
* Extremely honest!
True. Tells on himself constantly. : )
* Does not like sports.
I think this is mostly because of the weight gain. Before, he would try to be on sports teams, but the coaches usually had their fill after a couple of weeks and my husband would have to attend the practices and games with him because he would be out of control. Tae Kwon Do was really good for him because the instructors were ex-Marines and extremely rigid. He was usually in trouble with them too, but at least they could control him.
What the diagnosis was:
His diagnosis is ADHD/ODD/mood spectrum disorder and he takes Wellbutrin, Trileptal, Strattera, and Ablify.
[QUOTE=IMac]The word "goofy" is not very descriptive. What kinds of behaviours draw the attention of others in public? [/QUOTE]
He starts singing loudly and sometimes does disco moves while singing (he hasn't done this in quite a while), let's see what else... makes weird noises with his mouth...
maybe he's TRYING to attract attention!
[QUOTE=almostsane][QUOTE=IMac]The word "goofy" is not very descriptive. What kinds of behaviours draw the attention of others in public? [/QUOTE]
He starts singing loudly and sometimes does disco moves while singing (he hasn't done this in quite a while), let's see what else... makes weird noises with his mouth...
maybe he's TRYING to attract attention!
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I can tell you what my niece used to do (dx ADHD). She went through a "horse" phase where everything was horse noises no matter where you were and it would go on for hours and the more you told her to "please stop" she'd giggle and do it more. There was the "dog" phase, the "cat" phase, the odd sounds you can do with you mouth phase and on and on. Along with these "sounds" she would usually incorporate a silly movement that was repeated over and over.
She has transitioned out of that phase into more seriously concerning things (suspect early onset bipolar) but still can get caught up in giggling at the most inappropriate things, especially if she is being told to do something she doesn't want to do and then she does it very purposefully and defiantly especially when in public.
Hello everyone. I would like to know if your child is like mine and what the diagnosis was:
My son was diagnosed with ADHD, but i feel there is somethine more. Unfortunately, my ins doesn't cover neuropsych... This is my son (10 yrs):
* If peers tease - he gets really upset and may hit in retaliation. (even on meds)
* Acts goofy - in inappropriate places like stores or dr's offices, etc. (off meds) If we are somewhere like Wal-Mart and he starts acting goofy, i whisper in his ear that if he doesn't stop we will leave. His reply: No, I don't want to leave! I don't think he realizes that i'm whispering so that other people won't hear and he should whisper back to me. If i tell him, People can hear you. He says: it's none of their business.
* Get's very upset if you tell him "shut up", "none of your business."
* Likes to play with kids 2-3 years younger.
* Talks loud! This is most of the time. (off meds and sometimes on meds if upset)
* Has hardly any friends - social skills are not that great.
* Has LD in reading comprehension and just HATES reading. He is extremely behind in reading for his age.
* Is very good with transition.
* Does not curse.
* You speak to him nicely and calmly he can be the sweetest guy ever.
* Extremely honest!
* Does not like sports.
Is your child like mine?
My daughter is like yours. She is 8. Has everything you described aboved except:
She is not good with certain transitions, like out of routine things. She is also not that honest. She will lie to get out of trouble, always!
Everything else is her. We are in the processing of seeing a Pediatrician that specializes in ADD. We have seen several other dr.'s who did nothing to diagnose her and just asked what the Teachers have said and then suggested we medicate her. So far he has diagnosed her with Auditory Processing Disorder and I believe the diagnosis for ADD will be next.
[QUOTE=almostsane]Hello everyone. I would like to know if your child is like mine and what the diagnosis was:
My son was diagnosed with ADHD, but i feel there is somethine more. Unfortunately, my ins doesn't cover neuropsych... This is my son (10 yrs):
* If peers tease - he gets really upset and may hit in retaliation. (even on meds)
My son does not do this. He also does not mind teasing.
* Acts goofy - in inappropriate places like stores or dr's offices, etc. (off meds) If we are somewhere like Wal-Mart and he starts acting goofy, i whisper in his ear that if he doesn't stop we will leave. His reply: No, I don't want to leave! I don't think he realizes that i'm whispering so that other people won't hear and he should whisper back to me. If i tell him, People can hear you. He says: it's none of their business.
My son acted goofy at your son's age, too. He still does on occassion.
* Get's very upset if you tell him "shut up", "none of your business."
I would never tell my son to shut up or that something was none of his business
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* Likes to play with kids 2-3 years younger.
My son likes to play with both older and younger kids. He seems to want kids as friends who share similar interests, more than he wants kids as friends because they're a certain age.
* Talks loud! This is most of the time. (off meds and sometimes on meds if upset)
Yes, my son can be very loud.
* Has hardly any friends - social skills are not that great.
My son used to be a social animal, but that has come to a big halt this year. I'm not sure why. I know it's partly his doing, as he chooses not to hang out with some of the kids he has known for years.
* Has LD in reading comprehension and just HATES reading. He is extremely behind in reading for his age.
My son is dyslexic, so he struggles with reading. He also hates to read, but after years of tutoring, he now is reading a year above level (just got the test results yesterday)
. Granted, he's reading above level when he only has to read for fifteen minutes. Make him read an hour or two, then see where his level is.
* Is very good with transition.
My son does not like transitions. He wants to know what is expected of him and where he's expected to be.
* Does not curse.
My son has begun some of this, but he's almost thirteen. We are working on bringing it to a screeching halt.
* You speak to him nicely and calmly he can be the sweetest guy ever.
My son is absolutely this way, not only with me and my husband, but with teachers and other adults. Raising your voice to him gets you nowhere.
* Extremely honest!
Yes.
* Does not like sports.
My son likes to play sports. He doesn't like to compete on teams and train. He's very athletically inclined and very flexible.
Is your child like mine?
[/QUOTE] lillian38835.6078587963my daughter does not care were she is if she doesnt like it she will tell you!!! most the kids at school make fun of her, shes a big name caller when people are mean.. with me shes tell me that she hates me im stupid and so on.. shes doing better on school work now that we have her on meds. The only friends she has are the ones that im friends with their parents, Shes only 5 (6 in june) but i can already tell life is going to be VERY hard for her. When she has her daily melt downs she always say;s give me another chance or ill stop IF y ou do this.... if she is in a mood you can be the nicest person ever but she still hates you..Lillian,
What do you say instead of Shut up or Mind your own business? Maybe she mean't when others tell him that?!
ShelbysAdvocate38835.4040162037Yes, thanks ShelbysAdvocate... this is what other kids say and sometimes even the teachers!!!
katie.plaza: My son used to ALWAYS say give me another chance! What was your daughter's diagnosis?
[QUOTE=almostsane]Yes, thanks ShelbysAdvocate... this is what other kids say and sometimes even the teachers!!!
katie.plaza: My son used to ALWAYS say give me another chance! What was your daughter's diagnosis?
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I don't think any human being likes to be told to shut up or to be told that something is none of their business. I would be more surprised if someone did not get upset by that, than if someone did.
The "disorder" part of auditory processing disorder means that something is adversely affecting the processing or interpretation of the information. For example, you can tell her to do 3 things and she can only do 1 of the 3.
Another example pulled off the NIDCD website:
Children with APD often do not recognize subtle differences between sounds in words, even though the sounds themselves are loud and clear. For example, the request "Tell me how a chair and a couch are alike" may sound to a child with APD like "Tell me how a couch and a chair are alike." It can even be understood by the child as "Tell me how a cow and a hair are alike." These kinds of problems are more likely to occur when a person with APD is in a noisy environment or when he or she is listening to complex information.
What are the symptoms of possible auditory processing difficulty?Children with auditory processing difficulty typically have normal hearing and intelligence. However, they have also been observed to
Have trouble paying attention to and remembering information presented orally Have problems carrying out multistep directions Have poor listening skills Need more time to process information Have low academic performance Have behavior problems Have language difficulty (e.g., they confuse syllable sequences and have problems developing vocabulary and understanding language) Have difficulty with reading, comprehension, spelling, and vocabulary Well my son is similar in some ways. He hates to be teased. He doesnt get teased at school but when his brother and sister tease it furiates him. He did have extremely bad issues with violent behavior. Although I know when to entervien now. Now as far as your child getting upset when you tell him to "shut up", what child wouldnt? There are other ways of getting them to quiet down. Being a teacher and seeing other kids with ADHD I know that they usually have a hard time with transitions~so that makes me wonder about yours. My 9 year old loves to come to my class full pf preschoolers and play. I dont know what it is, maybe its because he is wild and so is my class~not sure. What I mean is that as a 4-5 year old your a bit more hyper and energetic than say his 9 year old friends are. This way he can be himself with younger children. My son does not curse but loves sports. he gets to run, jump, and everything else and not get in trouble for it.Your child is just like mines? What is Auditory Processing Disorder?
I think she said "others" tell him to shut up, not her.....To play devil's advocate here ... must be Spring in the air ... he sounds like a reasonable person to me!
* If peers tease - he gets really upset and may hit in retaliation. (even on meds)
He needs to learn a better way to respond, but this sounds like a normal reaction to me.
* Acts goofy - in inappropriate places like stores or dr's offices, etc.
Good for him. I'm kind of glad when my son isn't worried about what everyone else thinks and is just having fun his own way.
* Get's very upset if you tell him "shut up", "none of your business."
Me too!
* Likes to play with kids 2-3 years younger.
* Has hardly any friends - social skills are not that great.
I guess these would be things I would watch ... has he always gravitated toward younger kids?
* Has LD in reading comprehension and just HATES reading. He is extremely behind in reading for his age.
Does he get to read anything fun? Comics? Yu-Gi-Oh cards?
* Is very good with transition.
* Does not curse.
* You speak to him nicely and calmly he can be the sweetest guy ever.
* Extremely honest!
What a great kid!!
* Does not like sports.
Me, neither!
[QUOTE=TillyT]To play devil's advocate here ... must be Spring in the air ... he sounds like a reasonable person to me!
* If peers tease - he gets really upset and may hit in retaliation. (even on meds)
He needs to learn a better way to respond, but this sounds like a normal reaction to me.
This is the main thing he gets in trouble at school for.
* Acts goofy - in inappropriate places like stores or dr's offices, etc.
Good for him. I'm kind of glad when my son isn't worried about what everyone else thinks and is just having fun his own way.
Yes, i agree. But i get hot when i see adults shake their heads at him or look at him weird...
* Get's very upset if you tell him "shut up", "none of your business."
Me too!
* Likes to play with kids 2-3 years younger.
* Has hardly any friends - social skills are not that great.
I guess these would be things I would watch ... has he always gravitated toward younger kids?
Yes, pretty much.
* Has LD in reading comprehension and just HATES reading. He is extremely behind in reading for his age.
Does he get to read anything fun? Comics? Yu-Gi-Oh cards? Believe it or not i buy him Wrestling magazines since he's so into it...but he still won't read those, he'll just look at the pictures.
* Is very good with transition.
* Does not curse.
* You speak to him nicely and calmly he can be the sweetest guy ever.
* Extremely honest!
What a great kid!!
* Does not like sports.
Me, neither!
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I have 2 sons 10 yr, ADHD dx (but I am thinking just ADD) and 8 yr, ADHD dx, and in the process of being evaluated at school (I'm almost sure there's an LD)
Hello everyone. I would like to know if your child is like mine and what the diagnosis was:
My son was diagnosed with ADHD, but i feel there is somethine more. Unfortunately, my ins doesn't cover neuropsych... This is my son (10 yrs):
* If peers tease - he gets really upset and may hit in retaliation. (even on meds)
10 - gets very upset with any kind of teasing, even harmless, fun, joking around could hurt his feelings. The only physical reaction I'm aware of is a short time ago his friend was calling him a cheater, ds pushed him and received a punch in the face for it. He will fight with his brother but normally doesn't react physically.
8 - pretty much takes things in stride. He is the jokester. He has a high tolerance for teasing but has his limits.
* Acts goofy - in inappropriate places like stores or dr's offices, etc. (off meds) If we are somewhere like Wal-Mart and he starts acting goofy, i whisper in his ear that if he doesn't stop we will leave. His reply: No, I don't want to leave! I don't think he realizes that i'm whispering so that other people won't hear and he should whisper back to me. If i tell him, People can hear you. He says: it's none of their business.
10 - not as much now as he use too. He doesn't really like to draw too much attention to himself.
8 - ALL the time. Almost can't take him in the store. He wants to run around, steer the cart (the last time I took him grocery shopping he tipped over the cart full of food), he wants in the cart, then out etc., adding things to the cart, talking loud. He will ask embarrassing questions like once asked why is that man so black (loud enough to be heard) and once looked at a teen and asked why his hair was so funny looking.
* Get's very upset if you tell him "shut up", "none of your business."
* Likes to play with kids 2-3 years younger.
Older, younger, same age. Doesn't really matter to either one.
* Talks loud! This is most of the time. (off meds and sometimes on meds if upset)
10 - No but talks alot and I mean alot.
8 - Yes, he will talk very loud most of the time and the noises (noises that shouldn't come from a human at all!!!) On meds he's quite a bit quieter.
* Has hardly any friends - social skills are not that great.
They both seem to have their circle of friends at school.
10 - had some difficulties back in 1st but was not very out going and didn't make much of an effort. Just complained no one liked him.
8 - he has friends that seem to feed off one another. The energy builds and swirls around them.
* Has LD in reading comprehension and just HATES reading. He is extremely behind in reading for his age.
10 - is behind in reading. He really doesn't care for it and HATES the fact that I make him read 30 mins here at home.
8 - struggles so much with reading, writing and spelling it's painful. I suspect an LD.
* Is very good with transition.
Both hate change, anything new.
* Does not curse.
Nope but can't understand why I won't let them say words like "crap" and they do try to slip such words by.
* You speak to him nicely and calmly he can be the sweetest guy ever.
Yes, but it's not always easy to use the nice and calm voice, as it seems to be total chaos with my 8.
* Extremely honest!
They don't tell huge outrageous lies but they will use any means necessary to worm their way out of trouble.
* Does not like sports.
10 - no he doesn't
8 - loves sports, soccer, basketball and football so far.
Is your child like mine?
I just have to add that their very tender hearted especially my 8 yr ds. He is so rough and tough but shows so much empathy for others pain and tragedy that it surprises me at time.
[/QUOTE] lilbitcrazy38835.7759722222[QUOTE=almostsane]Hello everyone. I would like to know if your child is like mine and what the diagnosis was:
My son was diagnosed with ADHD, but i feel there is somethine more. Unfortunately, my ins doesn't cover neuropsych... This is my son (10 yrs):
* If peers tease - he gets really upset and may hit in retaliation. (even on meds)
My daughter hates being teased, but does not hit. She will usually say something to the other person, indicating that she is upset with them, then start pouting. She will tell me about it when she gets home.
* Acts goofy - in inappropriate places like stores or dr's offices, etc. (off meds) If we are somewhere like Wal-Mart and he starts acting goofy, i whisper in his ear that if he doesn't stop we will leave. His reply: No, I don't want to leave! I don't think he realizes that i'm whispering so that other people won't hear and he should whisper back to me. If i tell him, People can hear you. He says: it's none of their business.
My daughter is usually very aware of other people in public, so this is usually not a problem.
* Get's very upset if you tell him "shut up", "none of your business."
We do not use these terms in our home. She does become very upset if someone says these things to her.
* Likes to play with kids 2-3 years younger.
Yes, my daughter gravitates toward younger children.
* Talks loud! This is most of the time. (off meds and sometimes on meds if upset)
She does this at times, but occasionally speaks so softly that she cannot be heard. At times, she will not raise her voice even slightly if she is asked to repeat herself.
* Has hardly any friends - social skills are not that great.
She has a few friends her own age. I think that this is because she is at a slightly younger age in her emotional development than the other kids her own age.
* Has LD in reading comprehension and just HATES reading. He is extremely behind in reading for his age.
My daughter reads at her appropriate age level, but hates reading. I think that this is because she has to sit still and concentrate!
* Is very good with transition.
She absolutely hates change, and does not deal with it very well at all!
* Does not curse.
She does not curse, and often worries that a bad word has accidentally slipped out if saying a similar word!
* You speak to him nicely and calmly he can be the sweetest guy ever.
My daughter responds best to a calm, firm tone of voice.
* Extremely honest!
She will lie in order to get herself out of trouble. She is honest in other situations, however.
* Does not like sports.
She takes gymnastics lessons and swimming, but does not like to participate in or watch any competitive sports.
Is your child like mine?
[/QUOTE] The word "goofy" is not very descriptive. What kinds of behaviours draw the attention of others in public?Lilbitcrazy,
Your eight-year-old son sounds sooooooo much like my son, when he was eight!!!