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mom&son -- gets complicated doesn't it?

One confusing thing is that lots of kids with ADHD also have depression problems, with or without ADHD meds. While the Adderall could be affecting moods, it could also be that you are dealing with two separate problems.

Our doctor suggested this and frankly, I wasn't too keen on adding another medication, either. But, DS is doing pretty darn well on Ritalin LA and Prozac.

Are you working with a child psychiatrist?

Hello, I have a son who is 12 & has adhd he is on strattera & concerta. I was very worried about being him on 2 meds but the doctor feels it is best for him & we have seen a hugh improvements in him he has brought all his grades up from last quarter, he is much more focused & he is so happy that he is doing better. Things are getting better every day. We still have our issues, that will never change but there is hope for all of us.
I have to be honest with you & please dont take this the wrong way but I think that skipping his meds somedays is probably not the best idea, the body gets used to the meds in your system & he may not be able to handle things when the meds are missing. you may want to discuss with the doctor if this is the best way to manage his adhd, you dont want to do anything to make his moods any worse. I have read so much on the meds & they state that the body realizes when the medicine are missing & can cause many problems. Maybe talk to the doctor & see what he/she thinks about this.
Waiting to spend time away from you unfortunately is normal for kids there age, my son sometimes perfers to be alone & it breaks my heart but they need there space & just be there when he needs you the most, it may be on his terms but at least he knows he still needs you even though he may not act it sometimes. Try having a "special day" where you guys do all the things he likes & maybe he will see being with you can be fun, did you want to hang out with your parents when u were ten? I really didnt so try to see things from his point of view.. Perhaps you should conside a therapist we have seen a hugh improvement since we all have been going. Ask the school counsler or your doctor for a referral. Good luck, you sound like a great parents who wants the best for her son...Take Care [QUOTE=mom&son] Hi everyone,
I have a 10 yr. old son who is ADHD. He is currently taking Aderral and has been on meds since kindergarten. Lately he seems to have a negative attitude about EVERYTHING. I know this doesn't sound like much, but it is starting to affect me. I am always yelling and feeling depressed. I try to have fun with him but he's always in a bad mood. I have also noticed he wants to be left alone alot and stays to himself. I sometimes do not give him the meds on weekends because he seems to be in a better mood. I have talked to the doctor and he suggested an anti-depressant, however I did not want him to be on another medication. Any suggestions???[/QUOTE]

My son is ADHD and suffering from depression also.  After months of trying to figure out what is going on with him I was relieved when they finally put him on an antidepressant.  I have no concerns about his depression being caused by his ADHD meds as he was depressed before he started the meds in the fall and I can already see a difference in him since he came off of the antipsychotics and switched to the Zoloft.  Hopefully he will continue to improve.  I think one thing you should keep foremost in your mind is that as much as we don't want to medicate our kids more than we have to, untreated depression is even more dangerous and life threatening than the medication to treat it is.

Also, my son is 14 and right around the age of 10 he started spending more and more time in his room (specifically not with us).  I think part of it is pretty normal for the age.  He was just in his room playing video games, or on his computer, or doing homework or reading, or outside with friends....anywhere but with us.  This is the age where they start trying to seperate their identity even more from yours and it is somewhat normal...and will get even worse in the years to come.  However, if you're noticing an increase in negative behavior and attitude from him he may be having a hard time dealing with the pressures of school/peers and home and you might just want to check it out with his Dr.  Good Luck!

My son is 10 (soon to be 11) and I have noticed a change in his moods too - more moody, more obnoxious....He's not on meds now.  I think its probably an age thing. 

However, I think the summer would be a great time for a med break.  It will give you time to evaluate how he is doing off meds.  I stopped meds last May with my son and he's doing great.  The first few months were rough, but the changes I saw in my son were so great it would take me a lot to have him back on meds.

Take care,

Patti

 

Besides wanting to be alone, which can just be his personality unless it is a drastic change, what is he doing that makes you crazy? If he hasn't had an evaluation for many years, you can re-evaluate him because ADHD looks like many other things too, and is usually a first (but not always a last) diagnosis, and, as he gets older, more stuff shows up. He could be getting depressed due to the ups and downs of Adderrall, if that's it. But he could also have more going on than ADHD. ADHD is more often than not either something else which got labeled ADHD or co-morbid with other disorders. Is he normally a social kid? Does he have rages? How is he doing in school? Do you think the Adderrall helps him, hurts him, or does nothing at all? Has he seen a NeuroPsych (they do EXTENSIVE testing to get to the core issues, including LD's, ADHD and beyond). Has he ever seen a psychiatrist? Do psychiatric probs or substance abuse run in the family? Lots of questions...unfortunately our kids often don't get the right answers until we dig and dig (happened with both my son and myself). Extreme moodswings/raging/defiance that worsens or doesn't improve on stimulants/STraterra can be a red flag that the ADHD can be early onset bipolar, which is the disorder most misdiagnosed as ADHD (see my post on ADHD/bipolar--it's on the board now). If you believe he has ADHD and don't want to retest him, you may have to use another stimulant and see if it works. Adderrall is the stim that seems to cause the most problems, including aggression. I personally don't like Adderrall. It is the stimulant that is most abused on the streets by teens (my 21 year old used to abuse drugs and all ADHD meds are abused, but Adderrall is No. #1 and they get it from ADHD kids or ones who fake it to get the med---or those who steal it from younger sibls). If my kid had pure ADHD (no co-morbids), I'd use Ritalin. I would not put a moody kid on any stimulant. It can cause moodswings. I hope you find your true answer before we did--my don was 12. He is on the autism spectrum, high functioning.OlderMom38841.2728356481

Hi, Im new here.  My son is now 13 yrs old and he is ADHD.  He was diagnosed in the first grade and put on Ritalin back then.  Before my son was put on Medication, he was a very Happy child, extremely hyper (Bouncing of the walls), always clowning and joking around.  Once he got on the meds he was like a zomby the first week then he was very hostile and violent, we changed him to aderall, and he often spoke of dying, drawing pictures of people getting stabbed, etc.  I took him off of the meds. scared of all the complications and just let the teachers fuss and gripe about his behavior. 

He returned to his happy and bouncing of the walls self the rest of the school year and through the summer.  When school started back up he was constantly being sent to the office for disturbing the class and grades failing so we put him back on meds.  He always starts out with being much better, then after the fourth week or so it is like he gets immune to it and it isn't helping any more; then we end up upping the dose or trying something new.  He is now in the seventh grade, with alot of attitude, not being still making crazy noises, constantly bothering others and we have just pulled him off of Strattera a couple of months ago because the doctor thought he was just depressed and not ADHD, so he put him on Zoloft and he is much more happier, and even more hyper, and irritating others. 

So now he is on Clonidine (Which is absolutely doing NOTHING, and Zoloft.  We up the dose of the clonidine a week ago, still not helping.  He goes to see a Pshcologist in two weeks.  To be Honest I think I really need to change the foods and drinks we have for Breakfast Lunch and Dinner.  I am going to stop his meds. when school is out and change our foods and drink to see if it makes a difference.  Got to go for now, but will talk to you all again later. 

 

Momandson, I don't have experience with mixing stimulants and anti-depressants, but it doesn't sound good to me.  Maybe I'm wrong and if so, someone correct me. 

mariec, Strattera builds up in the bloodstream and you probably want to give it without any kind of med vacation.  Ritalin, adderal, concerta are all short acting and I think it's safe to skip days without lowering the efficacy.  My son takes both Strattera and Ritalin LA and is doing pretty well.  He started off taking concerta several years ago, but after a while it didn't seem to have any affect.  We upped it and the same thing happened.  Finally he topped out of the dosage for his weight and we switched to Adderall and then to Strattera+Ritalin. 
Hi everyone,
I have a 10 yr. old son who is ADHD. He is currently taking Aderral and has been on meds since kindergarten. Lately he seems to have a negative attitude about EVERYTHING. I know this doesn't sound like much, but it is starting to affect me. I am always yelling and feeling depressed. I try to have fun with him but he's always in a bad mood. I have also noticed he wants to be left alone alot and stays to himself. I sometimes do not give him the meds on weekends because he seems to be in a better mood. I have talked to the doctor and he suggested an anti-depressant, however I did not want him to be on another medication. Any suggestions???Adderall had many side effects for my son...moody and aggressive behaviors.  Maybe it's the med that he's on.  Can it be switched?Long-term use of stimulants (like Adderall) can have the side effect of depression.  Talk to your doc, but I would recommend taking him off all stimulants to see how his mood is affected. I am curious if he is on meds during a weekend when there isn't any pressure to perform, is he still just as negative?   I have noticed over the years that when ds is under a lot of pressure related to school his attitude is more negative.  My son is seven years older and I can't quitre remember if this was relative when he was ten.

Good Luck
I took my son off Adderall because it made my son depressed and caused him to lose weight.  I definitely would consider giving him a med break on the weekends or over the summer to see if it is the stim causing the behavior.