I was home sick today when I received a phone call from my son's vice principal, asking me to come and pick him up - 2:45pm. I picked him up and was told that he was acting peculiar today .. at first they found him sitting at his desk with a dazed look in his face - out of it; then all sorts of behaviours started: bolting; crawling under desks; kicking schoolmates at lunch times; agitation; basically crawling out of his skin. When I picked him up, he seemed rather fine and in fact he's going through a wonderful 2-week span. At home he seems to have it together and when I asked him, he doesn't seem to understand why he was behaving the way he was. Usually, if he hasn't eaten properly, he'll display these types of behaviours but apparently he hate most of his snack and lunch. Also, during these 'episodes' I can usually see that he's off but I can't say that he is by looking at him. I'm not sure what to think.
Well his worker mentioned that he looked 'dazed' and 'flushed' at one point which is why I'm thinking absent seizure .. I honestly don't think it's what it was but I wrote a note about it just incase. As for hypoglycemia, it was ruled out because he did eat a healthy portion of food throughout the day.
I haven't noticed an increase with his eating so I'm guessing he's not going through a growth spurt. His behaviours were also sporadic throughout the day. It started off with that dazed look and then it transpired into outward behaviours. I asked him why he was crawling under his desk and he said he was pretending he was a lion. Also when I asked him why he was acting silly, he said he had a pretty good day .. and it wasn't like he was lying about it - I can tell the difference. He genuinely believes he had a pretty good day - besides the kicking of classmates part which he admitted.
We'll see what happens tomorrow.
Well he wasn't reacting to food. Sometimes when his blood sugar levels drop from not eating enough in a day, he'll react in this manner. Other than that, he's been fine. He used to react this way when he was eating something he was sensitive towards but I don't think this is the case this time. As for seizures (absent), it did cross my mind as well but I can't say this was the cause either. I should write a note about that and ask his worker.
He isn't taking any medications .. not even over the counter ones. I wouldn't suggest he has BP.
Doesn't sound like reactions to food. If he really does react that way towards food, which I've never heard of, maybe you need allergy shots for him. My oldest had allergy shots to desensitize him to the hundreds of things he was allergic to. He never acted strangely because of them, but they did make him feel pretty sick, especially in the spring nad autumn. Otherwise, it sounds like some sort of bad reaction to medication, but I know you don't do meds. If I saw this post and didn't know anything about your son, I'd say it sounds like bipolar psychosis. Have you ever checked him for seizures? That's another distant possibility. Is he taking any herbs or remedies that could cause strange reactions? I had a bizarre reaction to Niacin. They aren't all benign either. This is one symptom that really doesn't sound like autistic spectrum disorder. I'd check with the doctor who is trying to find out what is wrong with him, because it IS weird. Good luck. OlderMom38848.8393171296The blood sugar thing (diabetic or hypoglycic can cause that dazed look and to act weird) crossed my mind too, when I read your first post. Is he getting enough protein? It's not an absence seizure; those are blank-outs mid activity, then they come out of them and carry on as if nothing happened. My son had these. Freaky.
Maybe a growth spurt, where he's just not comfortable in his skin?
Let us know what comes of it. I hope he feels better soon!
[QUOTE=INaBOX]So it's a typo?[/QUOTE]
hhmm, i am thinking so. lol i need to go check out your site.
.IMac38945.4719444444[QUOTE=annidagostini]Imac,
Have you considered that the STNR might be bothering him? Just a thought. If a person is bothered by it and is sitting with his arms and legs bent at the same time, he will feel uncomfortable and try to correct it. Some bolt out of their chairs, stand up, swing their legs, zone out, etc. Then, when they are allowed to walk around - when you came to get him - they are just fine. The reflex isn't bothering him anymore. He can stretch out in the car, etc. Also, if your son was required to sit with arms and legs bent and also required to move his head up and down to copy from the board, that can really be uncomfortable. It doesn't feel like the discomfort we are used to, it is a reflex like when you get your knee hit at the dr office and your leg swings out. It is an urge to move, to straighten the upper part of your body or the lower part so they are not bent together.
I know you have read about the STNR. So maybe this is not what you need to read. If so, sorry. [/QUOTE]
Ummmm, I'm not sure where this is coming from?
Imac,
Have you considered that the STNR might be bothering him? Just a thought. If a person is bothered by it and is sitting with his arms and legs bent at the same time, he will feel uncomfortable and try to correct it. Some bolt out of their chairs, stand up, swing their legs, zone out, etc. Then, when they are allowed to walk around - when you came to get him - they are just fine. The reflex isn't bothering him anymore. He can stretch out in the car, etc. Also, if your son was required to sit with arms and legs bent and also required to move his head up and down to copy from the board, that can really be uncomfortable. It doesn't feel like the discomfort we are used to, it is a reflex like when you get your knee hit at the dr office and your leg swings out. It is an urge to move, to straighten the upper part of your body or the lower part so they are not bent together.
I know you have read about the STNR. So maybe this is not what you need to read. If so, sorry.
WEll we're waiting for results back from some of these tests you've mentioned. Wish us luck.
HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY!
Hmm, dehydration and/or heat, yeah I've seen that with my kiddo too. Didn't think about that. Mine had absence seizures, related to the Adderall I think, due to the timing of them. And no, your son's doesn't sound like those to me either. Can you get a full workup with labs? That will tell you a lot, like for something metabolic, or his glucose levels, deficiencies, etc. I'd start there first, and it won't take long to get the results back from there. Something's up![QUOTE=OlderMom]I wouldn't see a point in guessing. If my kid had staring spells and disorientation, I'd get the EEG. My son has had one done twice. Smallmom is right. Absence seizures are VERY hard to detect because the kids dont' lose consciousness. My own guess is that an overheated room wouldn't cause a child to act like yours did. I would definitely see a Neurologist. An EEG is painless. My son was fine with it...not scared at all. [/QUOTE]
Thanks for your concerns everyone. I'll definitely bring it up with his pediatrician. We have a follow-up appointment coming up soon.
OlderMom, my son doesn't have staring spells. He was found in a daze last week. It is a common symptom when one is overheated - just prior to passing out. I also work with a child who has frequent daily absent seizures so I know what to look for. I've yet to see any symptom remotely close to an absent seizure with my son. I'm really not betting on it but I'll talk with his doctor about it anyway. Thanks.
So it's a typo?I wouldn't see a point in guessing. If my kid had staring spells and disorientation, I'd get the EEG. My son has had one done twice. Smallmom is right. Absence seizures are VERY hard to detect because the kids dont' lose consciousness. My own guess is that an overheated room wouldn't cause a child to act like yours did. I would definitely see a Neurologist. An EEG is painless. My son was fine with it...not scared at all. bump
He's had an MRI, CAT and EEG done when he was first born. It came out clean - minus the detection of blood in his brain.
I don't think he had a seizure. I think he was in a daze because apparently the room was very hot. He told the teacher he was too hot. I wrote a note about the seizure possibility and she didn't respond to it. She aknowledged my concern .. so I'm guessing the answer is NO, he didn't have a seizure. I've yet to see him have one.
It would of been nice if she responded to my question though. (sigh)
Thanks SmallMom.
Inabox, teachers are not qualified to determine whether children have seizures. Only a doctor, with the help of medical tests, can make that determination. Absence seizures are very hard to detect, even for parents who see them all the time. Since it's been many years since he's been evaluated -- and he has brain trauma, which puts him at a higher risk for seizures -- I'd take him to a pediatric neurologist.