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It may seem silly but I am new to this site and I have been reading some of the post and have really become discuraged. I have read alot about trolling what is it?

And by they way if I have responded to anyone's post and I have offened you I  am sorry I am still learning this process.

[QUOTE=IMac]Janelle,
Here is one definition of a Troll:

What exactly is a "Troll?" A troll is a message board personality that intentionally antagonizes others or interupts threads which results in bringing attention upon that individual or their business. While some may do it strictly for pleasure, some do it for profit.
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Like Imac.

 

calicrose, I have no plans of offending anyone I fully intend to respect all people that post. I fully intend to stick around. Honestly Janelle, I think another sad thing that trollness does, is make some start to question our validity and the value that we have here.  It has started some paranoia (is that real????) in me at times.  Do people think I'm the troll or involved somehow because I am trying alternatives for my son and am enthusiastially nauseatingly happy to share what I know???  But Imac hit it on the spot on one of her posts.  The whole deal brings us closer to what we believe, it makes us stronger, and better able to defend what we believe, if only in ourselves.  So did the Grinch who stole Christmas.  LOL.  .IMac38944.8859722222Janelle, you are not the trollJanelle if you want to offend someone on here, all you have to do is say that something that is way useful for the majority is way bad, and bad for all people.  Oh, and be rude, dissrespectul, ignorant, judgemental, mean and nasty and use foul ****,use angry large bold in red, post the same rag over and over and over again on top of newies' posts, and be basically annoying, distracting and making me want to go find where this lady lives. 

I'm learning a lot about trollness here too.  You'll learn to spot 'em real quick.  Please stick around.  This is really, for the most part, a really great bunch. 

Thanks  I am glad to hear that I am not the Troll.

 

I'm Kidding!!!

imac,  you left out other behaviors of a troll.  The past year the term "troll" has taken on a new form.  One of the behaviors is some one that likes to cause trouble.  Even if it's by sending pms that are offensive or abusive.  People that like to play others against each other and discredit others.  It happens alot, but for the most part trolls are just a HUGE distraction.  On here, the trolls don't match the topic of discussion.  Not having adhd or having children with adhd and that like to attack people for a difference of opinion.    The subject matter of this forum is a VERY personal and private manner.  There are going to be differences of opinions, but trolls like to take the differences and use them to attack others.

But, most of the time, they leave on their own account.  Enjoy the board.  Most of the people here are GREAT and care about each other.

Welcome!!!!

Ogram is right!  There are people who love to send offensive and abusive PM's. I should know since I just received one and had to block that person from PM'ing me. So she hit it right on the nose, there is a new kind of Troll all right, not just the kind Imac mentioned.

Jenelle, You are most welcome and I hope you make a lot of friends on this board. I know I have.

lmao  that  poor thing, she must be heart broken!!!!!!!!!!

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i guess the "odd peace" is now "spilt milk".  lmao

ogram38859.9330787037I wasn't talking about you.   We still have our odd peace.lmao, sure you weren't.  that is what this board needed.  A troll to show people that we are a loving, caring group here for the right reasons.  Some times feelings get hurt, but we all move on and realize that we all want to do right by our adhd kids or "adhd" selves.  did that even make any since?  .IMac38944.886724537OTHERS WHO DISLIKE SOMEONES OPTIONS/ OPINIONS!Hey, they're breathing my air!
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Thanks  I am glad to hear that I am not the Troll.

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yes you are, you are a troll.....

[QUOTE=calicorose]Janelle if you want to offend someone on here, all you have to do is say that something that is way useful for the majority is way bad, and bad for all people.  Oh, and be rude, dissrespectul, ignorant, judgemental, mean and nasty and use foul ****,use angry large bold in red, post the same rag over and over and over again on top of newies' posts, and be basically annoying, distracting and making me want to go find where this lady lives. 

I'm learning a lot about trollness here too.  You'll learn to spot 'em real quick.  Please stick around.  This is really, for the most part, a really great bunch. 
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yes you are, you are a troll.....

[QUOTE=calicorose]Honestly Janelle, I think another sad thing that trollness does, is make some start to question our validity and the value that we have here.  It has started some paranoia (is that real????) in me at times.  Do people think I'm the troll or involved somehow because I am trying alternatives for my son and am enthusiastially nauseatingly happy to share what I know???  But Imac hit it on the spot on one of her posts.  The whole deal brings us closer to what we believe, it makes us stronger, and better able to defend what we believe, if only in ourselves.  So did the Grinch who stole Christmas.  LOL.  [/QUOTE]

yes anybody who tries to use alternative meds is a troll....

you need a very high IQ for that answer

There is no such thing as a troll!!! 

I guess that means, YOU Binformed, do not exist.  Thank you.  Go away.

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There is no such thing as a troll!!! 

I guess that means, YOU Binformed, do not exist.  Thank you.  Go away.

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good comeback!!!

 

 

Thanks for the welcome ladies it seem i have found just the bunch i needed to get me through my son's daily activitey.

There is no such thing as a troll, doncha know?????? 

 

I think Kirstie has plenty of problems and, being in Hollywood, I'd be shocked if she didn't prescribe her OWN drugs. She certainly lost weight fast. That aside, a troll doesn't join a board to help anybody...or to try to help. They come to scare people. They, and they alone, know 5 kids who DIED directly related to Ritalin. Now with all of us here, do we know one kid who died becaue of Ritalin? No. But they can site many examples that, of course, they can't prove because they made the stories up, and they are very sick stories of children dying to scare parents. We had an e-mail anti-med group here recently and I think this new bunch are the same people with recycled names. OlderMom38860.3281828704Janelle wrote:
Thanks for the welcome ladies it seem i have found just the bunch i needed to get me through my son's daily activitey.

Thats the goal here, to help each other get through the day. Thats called support. So glad you decided to stick around

Happy to be here  

I find the trolls off putting. I read the site regularly and sometimes there's three/four posts by some anti med wacko. I find myself despising a religion/cult because of them. In the big picture they are to be ignored but some of them are dangerous. Kirstie Allie testified in Florida against highly qualified psychiatrists about "drugging the children". How nice it must be not to have any medical problems and enough money to arrange the world around them. No one medicates as a first choice. Why don't they leave us alone?

Okay, venting over with.Be careful when you think someone is a troll. People here thought I was a troll. Although my son does not have the ADHD label, I am here for legitimate reasons.

I am here to let parents know how I helped my child dodge the ADHD label, without any medication. He is doing well. I have the same high hopes for every child.
Don't waste time calling people names, like trolls. When you call someone a troll, you are reducing your argument to a personal attack. Stick to logical debate. Avoid name calling. Avoid censoring.

My son had the very real problems that people here call ADHD. I am glad I can say he HAD them. We tackled his real issues. It was not easy.  We found lasting solutions and are confident  that some of the things we did will help other parents as well. 

I believe that parents of kids who are being told that their kid has ADHD should flatly reject  the psychological testing until other evidenced-based tests have been completed. 

All struggling students should always be referred to a specialist optometrist for a comprehensive vision exam.  http://www.pavevision.org/
A typical eye chart test is not sufficient. The eye chart test and the regular optometrist visit simply tests for whether a student needs glasses.  

Parents need to schedule appointments with developmental optometrists, who have post-doctoral training and certification in near vision diagnosis and treatment and usually practice optometric vision therapy in addition to general optometry. Please visit http://www.covd.org/membersearch.asp to find a doctor with this specialty.

All struggling students should always be referred to a specialist in childhood immunology and respiratory disease for allergy and asthma tests. Please see http://www.blockcenter.com/ for an example. Some struggling studenst are  highly sensitive to the dog dander on the clothes of his classmates and the tree pollen in spring. 

All schools should offer more dynamic learning environments, better suited to the learning styles of all kids.  Some kids learn better when they are moving around. Please see http://www.thomasarmstrong.com/multiple_intelligences.h tm

Written bullying policies should be in place in each school district. Social deficits can be avoided if kids aren't stigmatized and if bullying is not tolerated. Please see http://www.bullypolice.org/

If we all brainstorm, many other goals could be identified so that we can help these struggling students.  There is so much we can do together. There is so much that we need to do together. 

Skip the troll stuff. There is so much work to do!

TCMG I am happy your child is doing well and no you don't sound like a troll

cut and paste and personnal messages saying we are killing our kids and are bad parents that what is uncalled for.(my son is 4 and no meds)

What we need is moderators to block certain users for we now have a new troll.  They are really begining  to annoy me.  I bet they do not even have any children and definetly not one with ADHD until they walk a mile in our shoes they need to get a life.This site ought to enforce courtesy rules.   The moderator ought to erase the posts that are downright rude.  The rudest posts at this website are the ones in which you all are accusing people of being so called trolls.  There ought to be an opportunity for debate at this forum wihtout personal attacks.



[QUOTE=TCMG]This site ought to enforce courtesy rules.   The moderator ought to erase the posts that are downright rude.  The rudest posts at this website are the ones in which you all are accusing people of being so called trolls.  There ought to be an opportunity for debate at this forum wihtout personal attacks.



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I agree partly with what you say tcmg but people such as binformed not only posts on these threads but also sends people private messages stating that they are killing there children, They are bullies and they hurt peoples feelings that is why they get everyones backs up. This is why we all stick together to try  and get rid of people such as binformed for the good of the community we all have on here. These so called trolls do not understand the word debate they just understand "bully" and "personal attack"
The way that you treat people who do not agree with your own ideas should always be polite. Rude posts should always be erased by the moderator.  Why does this site permit this?

Moderator, where are you?  You should follow the lead of the website moderators found at:

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/rules.php
"We take the "Be Polite" rule very seriously! We do not tolerate any rudeness. Any member who is intentionally unpleasant or disruptive may be banned without warning."
The administrator was signed on earlier and they do delete parts of messages. When you stated " the way that you treat people" are you actually refering to me???  No. Oh ok sorry.     I was gonna say my child isn't on meds i just don't like it when they bully people. You should see some of the things people say to people who they believe are trolls. This is the type of post that should be deleted:

"TCMG, you have to tell the voices to shut up; it's the only way. "

This is one of the rudest posts I can imagine. Moderator, I want to know why you do not delete this.
I agree with you everyone has the right to express there opinion as long as it is in a descent way.  Thanks.

TCMG wrote:
 Moderator, I want to know why you do not delete this.

The Moderator of this board does not have the power to delete posts as the Adminstrator doesnt give the moderater the power to do that. The only thing the Moderator can do and has done REPEATEDLY is report inflamatory posts to the Administrator asking him to delete them. The Administrator choses to run this message board this way. Many of the long time posters here have been sending the Administrator pm's but more times than not he doesnt even read them. Maybe you will have better luck. His name is Ernest and perhaps you can pm him along with the rest of us to try to make this board a soft place to fall.