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Autistic Spectrum Disorder, which includes PDD-NOS and Aspergers syndrome. She has tons of red flag behaviors for that. Unfortunately, it is often missed and called ADHD until the kids reach about 11 or 12 (this happened to us). Then the kids miss interventions that could help them--NeuroPsychs are the best at telling ASD apart from ADHD. My son's first dx. was ADHD/ODD. He wasn't "caught" until age 11 because he is higher functioning. Yes, these kids have MAJOR sensory problems and ADHD behaviors are part and parcel of the spectrum. Some kids improve on stimulants and some don't, but they all suffer various degrees of inattention. Most have behavior problems. My son outgrew his, but he was awful as a toddler.  For him, the interventions were golden (He has ASD interventions even before his diagnosis because of his speech/sensory/social skills issues being so severe.). The regular psycologists and even a psychiatrist missed the ASD, although it's really pretty glaring if you have a clue (and a diagnostician should, but they don't know that much about higher functioning autism, since it's only been discovered within the past ten years). In the past it was ALWAYS called ADHD, but the kids are worse than those with ADHD as far as functioning  goes. Without interventions specific to ASD the kids can't progress to their maximum potential. ADHD help just isn't enough for them. Good luck :) MomWI38901.8628587963

[QUOTE=MomWI]It can also be a symptom of ASD. These kids often regress. They always have anxiety of some sort. [/QUOTE]

 

*What is ASD?  I can ask about it come wednesday when they do some testing on her at the University.  I was thinking sensory or is that ASD.  As for anxiety she does it mostly sitting around the house watching tv or while I am driving to me it seems like bordem.

There are MANY adults with Aspergers who diagnosed themselves! I chat in an e-mail group with Aspie adults. Aspergers has only been recognized for about ten years so it often went undiagnosed. At best, the adults slide by, hold jobs, struggle with social stuff (and most are extreme loners), and just accept their differences. At worst they are brilliant, like my friend's son, and still on Disability and clueless to a fault about getting along with people. This man will walk up to his Supervisor and tell him, "You aren't being fair." He has no clue how to "play the work game" and has been fired from at least fifty menial jobs. He never made it to college, even though brilliant. Even if he had, his social impairments would still be there. At his age, he is not willing to try to get help. In fact, he calls his Aspergers, "just another stupid label." This kid has run the gamut of diagnoses---ADHD, ADHD/ODD, bipolar, anxiety disorder, mood disorder NOS, etc. He's been on almost every med that exists. He's had it. But he lives a very dependent life. His parents are terrified that he'll end up homeless once they're gone, and his siblings don't believe anything is wrong with him other than "he's lazy."  JUst like teachers do, I feel medical people should be forced to update their learning so that they KNOW Aspergers from ADHD and PDD-NOS from ADHD. But the problem is, they don't have to do this and often don't. Thus, misdiagnoses still abound.MomWI38902.2522337963IMac38944.8469212963When only classical autism (ie: No speech/mental retardation) was acknowledged as ASD, it was easy to detect. The kids were very delayed and strange and it was clearcut. They simply didn't communicate. Within the past ten years it has been found that many people, often thought to have SEVERE ADHD with social deficits, are actually on the Spectrum with the higher functioning forms of autism--PDD-NOS (atypical autism) or Aspergers Syndrome. Since there is no speech delay with Aspergers, and the deficits are often not academic, the kids are seen as just "a little strange" "immature" "not socially adept" until they hit preteen or older when it becomes apparent that the kids are really different from their peers. Rather than suffering only ADHD impulsivity and social immaturity, they are socially CLUELESS. Most are friendless, with no idea how to make a friend and, even when taught, many can't do it. They are often seen as "strange geeks" and "oddballs" or "misfits" and manage to slide through society with wrong dx., never getting the right help. It is NOT obvious in younger kids because their social cluelessness (and these kids ARE clueless) can be seen by some as age appropriately delayed in social skills. The thing is, Aspies and kids with PDD-NOS never do get it. Even with social skills classes, they really have to work hard to "get people." Life skills, sensory issues, and academic problems, even with high IQs, can hinder these kids all their lives. I know an Aspie with an IQ of 160 who is so deficient in social and life skills that he's never held a job. He just married and is moving back in with his folks--he and his wife, who is quickly losing patience with his inability to hold a job even as a janitor. The man can speak three languages. Why can't he work? This young man wasn't diagnoed until age 21, which shows you t he danger of not getting the proper interventions. Kids with ASD are far less functional as they get older than kids with ADHD. They need early, intensive help. Some "right on" professionals, especially NeuroPsychs know how to test for and diagnose Aspergers and PDD-NOS in younger kids. You won't be seeing that from regular Psycologists, Pediatricians, talk therapists or even many Child Psychiatrists. Even worse than being diagnosed as ADHD, many ASD kids are diagnosed as mentally ill, like my son was, and called "bipolar." The kids are just so different and often have serious behavioral challenges (not due to mental illness). They are often seen by Psychiatrists as mentally ill when they are neurologically impaired and need a totally different sort of help than meds and therapy. Yes, it's complicated. The best prognosis goes along with early intereventions specific to ASD. And imo medical professionals need to update their training. Many just don't keep on learning, and those are the ones who still don't know much about how to test for ASD, and what to look for. (Phew, that was long). Well put Momwi. Why is the happening when it is suppose to be dectable by age 2-3?

MomWI it may have been long but informative.  I have mentioned things in the past to her psychologist but I do not think he felt it necessary to look into and if not for the study I would have called  him to screen her for other things.  The University study is going to do their own testing starting with background info, IQ, etc.  They have her origional diagnosis and will repeat the testing themselves and I am going to add ASD to the list and CPD that my neighbor recommended.  The big day is tommorow for the first set of testing.  I will keep you all posted.  As I am typing she is now watching cartoons with a bracelet in her mouth.

.IMac38944.8471643519I bet i may get a asd dx. I can only learn things 1 way. This is handson/auditory. I had delays from the seizures. Jobs I am totaly unqualified for. I have spd. I have a hard time understanding anyone elso who doesn't have spd. I like my independence. I hate being unqualified for jobs. I feel I was born a unfair life.

CAPD can be part of ASD too. Unfortunately, psycologists are not very good at spotting ASD, and don't usually know much about it. Depending on who is heading up the study at the university, that professional may not either, but I hope they do and wish you luck.My ten year old daugher has CAPD. To be honest, she's a pretty typical kid, no behavior problems, great social skills, popular, bright--she just has problems comprehending directions at times and had a hard time understanding how to read. I don't see CAPD causing the problems your child has. My daughter spends 1/2 day in LD Class and has made great strides in her problem area--auditory comprehension. She may be mainstreamed soon, as, aside from that, she is just a regular little girl. Kids who are considered "strange" are most often (not always) on the autism spectrum, rather than ADHD. They also tend to be clueless (and I do mean CLUELESS) with social skills and often have no friends at all or play only with older or younger kids, depending on how severe the ASD. There are a lot of varying levels, but each one requires special interventions for maximum results. I'd have her see a NeuroPsych. They seem to know more about ASD and other neurological disorders than psychiatrists and psycologists, who often know nothing at all.

MomWI38902.5346064815My 7 yo daughter also has the tendency to put non-food things into her mouth.  It seems to be lessening slightly.  She also sucks her two fingers all the time.  I remember also sucking my fingers until I was 8 or 9, so I'm disinclined to try to break her of the habit.  Not that I haven't tried in the past (like when she was 2, 3, and 4 years old)  We tried everything short of putting her arm in a cast so she couldn't get those d--n fingers in her mouth.  But I digress.  I think it is a developmental thing in my daughter's case.  Eventually the combination of maturing and also peer pressure will cause it to stop..IMac38944.8465740741It can also be a symptom of ASD. These kids often regress. They always have anxiety of some sort.

MY ISSUE ALSO IS PETIMAL EPILEPSY CAN LOOK LIKE DAYDREAMING. THIS IS A BIG DIFFERENCE. CHECK OUT THE DIFFERENCES.

jILLETTE YOU CHILD SOUNDS LIKE A ASD KID INSTEAD. i'M PRETTY SURE OUR SON HAS PPD WHICH IS A TYPE OF ASD. THIS IS WHY WE ARE GOING TO A np.

Sucking on clothing and chewing on hair can be symptoms of anxiety. 

IMAC- REGRESSION IS PART OF ASD. ASD HAS 4 SUBTYPES AND 3 SEVERITIES. NO ASD KID IS A LIKE. TO GET THIS LABEL YOU HAVE TO ONLY FIT 6  OF THE CRITERIA.

My daughter regresses all the time and does things she did when she was younger.  She is now back to putting things in her mouth everything she gets hold of and I am watching her closely.  She is also sucking on her clothing again and chewing her hair.  why does she do these stages?

This week we go for testing for the University study and I plan to adress this can anyone add anything else.  The testing is for FREE part of the program.