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Can you answer my question ? Can someone with a special diploma go to college? Some people told a friend of mine .. NO WAY !!
You need to call your state educational department as every state may be different. In my state the children have to pass all the state exams to get a general diploma which is comparable to a special education diploma. Regular education students take the Regents exams which is a harder version of the test and if they pass they get a Regents diploma. If the chid doesnt pass these exams they get a certificate of completion which may be the special diploma you refer to. Its not a diploma but rather a certificate stating you completed 4 years of high school. If the child has a certficate of completion they cannot go to college nor a trade school.
By special diploma you mean someone with an IEP or 504 or something? If so, Hell Yeah! In college you (as far as I understand, I won't experience firsthand until 2007) get a case manager just as you do in HS. Also, as far as I believe, it's against the law to not except someone because of their disabilities, both for work and for school (but I'm not positive on that. Work I am, school I'm not. But I'd think they run together).And as far as the lawyer thing, we're figuring, why ruin a good thing? If they stick to their word, I'm just going to finish school on homebound next year. For personal reasons, we just can't handle a law suit right now. (funny, cause I'm ready to take on the system, lol). Guess we've decided to wait this one out. I don't know, we'll just have to see what happens.
This topic is being spoken about at the Parents of ADHD Children Message Board. Here: http://www.adhdnews.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20652&TPN= 1You can go to a lawyer that you don't pay him/her unless your case wins? They are out there. Hey, it's sound good, doesn't it? You know he/she will stop at nothing to win for you. They want the money. In that time, you can find the way of paying him or her of the help. Good luck ! That "no child left behind" is made only to make themselves look good. In some schools, they could care less if a child is left behind (Well, maybe their own), more so, if a child has any type of a problem. good138921.627962963
Can you answer my question ? Can someone with a special diploma go to college? Some people told a friend of mine .. NO WAY !!
[QUOTE=Marley24365]By special diploma you mean someone with an IEP or 504 or something? If so, Hell Yeah! In college you (as far as I understand, I won't experience firsthand until 2007) get a case manager just as you do in HS. Also, as far as I believe, it's against the law to not except someone because of their disabilities, both for work and for school (but I'm not positive on that. Work I am, school I'm not. But I'd think they run together).
And as far as the lawyer thing, we're figuring, why ruin a good thing? If they stick to their word, I'm just going to finish school on homebound next year. For personal reasons, we just can't handle a law suit right now. (funny, cause I'm ready to take on the system, lol). Guess we've decided to wait this one out. I don't know, we'll just have to see what happens.
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You sound like you are really nice (GOOD) person and I wish you all the luck in the world. Take care !
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good1 wrote:
Can you answer my question ? Can someone with a special diploma go to college? Some people told a friend of mine .. NO WAY !!
You need to call your state educational department as every state may be different. In my state the children have to pass all the state exams to get a general diploma which is comparable to a special education diploma. Regular education students take the Regents exams which is a harder version of the test and if they pass they get a Regents diploma. If the chid doesnt pass these exams they get a certificate of completion which may be the special diploma you refer to. Its not a diploma but rather a certificate stating you completed 4 years of high school. If the child has a certficate of completion they cannot go to college nor a trade school.
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So, what you are saying is .. my friend's son (when trying to get a decent paying job) is 
, right? I don't think that is fair, because they go out of their way to learn the ones that are not Americans, but do little (other than mistreat them) to help special education students. Not saying they shouldn't help people that are not an American, but this is not right at all. ALL kids should have a chance at a good education. In high school and in college.
In 2007 I'll be going to college, motivated by a personal experience I've thought I wanted to become a Veterinary Physical Therapist, but over the past... three years I think, I've learned just how messed up our (the USA) school system is. For eleven years my parents have fought against the school district to get me an equal opportunity education, and now for the last four years I've been working with them and becoming more of my own advocate. It took eleven years for me to get diagnosed with ADD and to get a 504 plan. To this day my 504 is not to my family’s satisfaction or enforced. The next step (or perhaps the step that was needed years ago) is to take the school to court, but for financial and stress issues, my family can't.
I live in South Jersey where the No Child Left Behind Law stands. But children are being left behind. They may be moving ahead in grades, but not in education (this is happening all across the nation). I myself have had to withdraw from classes or even retake them so that I could learn everything. This isn’t right. The fact that I have never seen a single post on this forum that someone is satisfied with their 504 or IEP is a disgrace. Children, parents, and even many teachers do not like how this system works. Well, can’t we change it?
There’s a lot of things in this world that aren’t right, aren’t fair, aren’t moral. There are a lot of things that we would like to change but believe we can’t. In truth, it’s a miracle that I’ll be graduating next year with an A/B average, that I’m going to go to college, even that I can process and drive without crashing, lol. My point is, yes, life is hard, no one has to tell me that, but what if we, as a unit, could just make that life a bit easier for our children and our children’s children?
I began writing this post to ask what I could do. What occupation I could pursue in the school system to make a difference for the specially educated, but now I’m asking, what can we do together? On this forum alone there are 11081 members. People (especially presidents) are always talking about our children’s futures, or our children are the future. Well, I say let us make their futures bright! Let us stand up for their and our rights! There must be ways for the system to be changed! I’m looking for ideas here. I’m looking for each and every one of you frustrated and pissed off parents or AD(H)D people! Instead of simply writing our complaints on here to 11081 people to read, let us bring them to the attention of every single American! Single persons throughout history, Ghandi, Bob Marley, even Hitler (you can’t say that even though his actions were terrible, that they were not great), were heard, imagine how loud a voice of 11081 will be! Please post ideas! Anything from the Chain of Command of Special Education to petitions to protests! For too long the school system has been broken! For too long children have been left behind! We can change all this!