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 I have tryed the marble system and that dnt seem 2 wrk now as his bored with that ive also tryed the sticker charts and that not even working as when i tell him his lost marbles or stickers his like and.. im not bothered maybe it's his age that why he isnt bothered as mch,i rlly want 2 try without the meds as i feel like im realying on them 2 mch and ive let him and my doc down as well as myself,  obviously adventually my son will have 2 come of them as when his on them his appetitite is not brilliant but since his been of them his been eatting loads so i rlly cnt win 2 be honest as i worry abt his weight just as mch as his behaviour i will c if i can try a few more days without the med's and then i will hav 2 put him bak on them as its bloody hard without them lol [QUOTE=cr12345mr]

Hi.   If he is out of control, put him back on the meds.  Tell your doc that it was a nice experiment, but now it is over.

If you want to stick it out, try giving positive attention.  He wants your attention, so try giving him positive attention, rather than him acting out for negative attention.  Give yourself a timeout when your blood starts to boil.  Disengage, disengage, disengage.  Don't escalate disagreements.  Get him to vigorously exercise.  Go for long, long bike rides, go for a jog, skate, whatever.  Go with him, it will help your mental health also.  HTH.  Good Luck! 

 

I do giv him postive attention as much as i can but smetimes where his so demanding i can loose my temper and i tend 2 shout bak at him which i no dosnt help him at all but it is so difficult as i have 2 hav the last word as well so obviously we tend 2 argue alot i rlly rlly do try but it is hard..i also take him out 2 the park alot but this is difficult as where his not on his med's he tends 2 fight with the other children and when he is being nice they dont see that as his in there faces and vry bossy and obviously it can be vry embarrassing for me 2 explain that his not an animal he has a condition and as u prob understand ppl are vry judgemental and vry ignorant 2 the fact of ADHD sme even dont believe it exsists so u feel like a bad parent and it's your fault..i will defo get a bike tho and see if that helps as my son has one but i dont but that may help .

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My son has been a monkey himself lately. What works? I was told, the only way to change a behaviour is if you change your own behaviour first. Maybe he's behaving in a certain way because it's working. He's getting the feedback he's looking for from you. This is not at all to point the finger at you. Right now I'm learning how to change my own approach rather than fixating on how to fix my son's habits .. and man, they can be annoying. One thing I've tried recently is giving MYSELF the time-outs. I go to my room and close the door. He knows that when the door is closed, he is not to open it.. and he doesn't. During that time, he is absolutely quiet. He'll play in his own room or may even take a small nap. If it gets to be too much, I even unplug the TV before giving myself the time-out so he's not resorting to the television while I'm 'out'. Give this a try. If you walk out of your room and the house is upside down, have him clean it. I don't know HOW but be creative. You know him best. If you don't know, find out what his incentives are. Make a list. .. or create an award for him to look forward to (ie: an outting of his choice). I think I'm going to start wearing earplugs. My son is a screamer when he wants my attention. It drives me NUTS!! Children's behaviours are predictable (for the most part). It's the environment and the people around them that determines how they get out of certain behaviours.

Ok, I'm rambling. I had a pretty crappy weekend and was glad to be dropping my son off at his daycare today. :)

Hi.   If he is out of control, put him back on the meds.  Tell your doc that it was a nice experiment, but now it is over.

If you want to stick it out, try giving positive attention.  He wants your attention, so try giving him positive attention, rather than him acting out for negative attention.  Give yourself a timeout when your blood starts to boil.  Disengage, disengage, disengage.  Don't escalate disagreements.  Get him to vigorously exercise.  Go for long, long bike rides, go for a jog, skate, whatever.  Go with him, it will help your mental health also.  HTH.  Good Luck! 

Have you tried Ogram's marble method of feedback?  If I can find it, I'll bump it for you.

Otherwise, I'm with Leigh.  Experiment's over, doc.

 

 WHY DO CHILDREN HAV 2 PUSH AND PUSH UNTILL U LOSE IT WITH THEM IM AT MY WIT'S END I HAV A 9 YR OLD THAT HAS SEVERE ADHD AND HE IS ON 54 CONCERTA BUT AT THE MOMENT I HAVE BEEN TOLD 2 TAKE HIM OF IT 4 A CPLE OF WEEKS AS HE HAS BEEN ON IT FOR THE LAST 3 YRS AND HASNT RLLY HAD A LONG BREAK SO HIS BODY IS GETTING USE 2 IT AND THE DOC DOSNT FEEL THEY SHOULD CHANGE HIS MED'S,SO FAR IT HAS BEEN 3DAYS AND IM AT THE POINT WHERE I WANT 2 GIVE HIM THEM BAK BUT I NO I CNT AS I NEED 2 DO WHAT THE DOC' SAYS .. I KNOW IT HARD FOR THEM AT TIMES BUT IT JUST AS HARD FOR US AS I RLLY DO TRY 2 IGNORE BAD BEHAVIOR BUT IT'S EASIER SAID THEN DONE AS IF I IGNORE HIM HE WILL NOT STOP HE JUST GETS WORSE OR EVEN HE WILL THROW THINGS AT PPL OR MYSELF 2 GET MRE ATTENTION AND OBVIOUSLY I CNT IGNORE THAT...IM IN THE MIDDLE OF DOING THAT MARBLE AND TIME OUT WITH HIM BUT THAT IS JUST AS HARD AS HE IS SO AGRESSIVE AND SWEARS ALOT THERE IS NO REASONING WITH HIM AND HIS NOT BOTHERED ABT THE MARBLES SO THERE RLLY NOTHING THAT BOTHERS HIM..WHYYYYYYY IS THIS, WHAT CAN I DO 2 HELP THIS CHILD AND MYSELF AS IM GETTING 2 THE POINT WHERE NOTHING IS WORKING IF ANY1 ELSE NO ANY IDEAS HELPPPPPPPPPP Confused

I have a question why isn't there assemblys for the parents that don't understand children with ADHD or ADD because I'm so tired of people looking at my children because they have an outburst out in public. it makes me want to say the the F are you looking at, mind your own business and when another kid is doing the same thing and I hear a mother or father get angry I don't stare because I don't know there situration it's just Cruel. you know.   I Hate it....They don't understand the meds but for some children they work.

Hi I am new to the this myself - in a way,  My son who is 11 with ADHD was doing very well last year in school.  this summer has been really tough - he has been whinny, fearful in ways that we thought he had outgrown, fights with sister endlessly and always in someone's business and then there is the moving and touching and constant movement. He is on Strattera - I feel like I need new parenting skills - i've seen the work disengage and would like to know what ways that can be done.  I joined this because I am looking for new ways to work with old problems - we have an appt. with his doc next week to evaluate everything.

Sometimes getting of a stimulant medication may cause the hyper behavior to be more hyper tan before the medication.  I know when we give a med break the first day off is so hyper then it seemes to settle down a bit.;

Good luck

I'm always thank for when my husband comes home. I scream because He's either biting kicking smacking jumping on furniture and the worst thing is all three of my kids do it 8 6 and 4 and it drives me nuts I'm a stay at home mom and I am so ready for school to start I know all of them have some form of add or adhd my DS that is diagnoised has severe ADHD but my other two aren't diagnoised yet. I've done time out I've done the chips I haven't done the marbles I've done the stickers but it only worked for 2 weeks. My husband tells me to keep my oldest DS off of his medicine on the weekends but when he gets in his moods he's impossible to deal with because he hits and kicks me too telling me to shut up so I'm with everyone else experiment is over doc.

Daniel has always been a monkey. Caffeine calms him and so do the mag.calcium,oil. Sticking with his diet also helps out.

I feel for you.  We have all been there with our children.  We stay up night and night trying to figure out what to do and not to do.  We want to pull our hair out.  We want to shake our kids out of it.

My son took a break off meds this summer (1st try).  It really took him 2 weeks to "come down" off the meds.  He was explosive, whiny, bratty, easy to cry, obnoxious, and just an all around handful..  that passed, once all the meds were out of his system. 

This has been the best summer in a long time.  He didn't have to focus or concentrate on a dang thing this summer (it was organized CHAOS as the YMCA!!) EXCEPT 1 thing and when we went there to do that. (3 different times).. he was off in la la land.  He couldn't focus and pay attention. ... that just confirmed for me that, yep, it's time to go on meds again and get it into his system, SCHOOL is just around the corner.

Also, my kid loves to get a rise out of me well, really my  husband and HE KNOWS how to do it.  STAY CALM, STAY FOCUSED, DON'T WAIVER YOU CAN DO IT!

USE PRAISE.  That is something i have learned with my son, (he's almost 9)  I PRAISE him for the smallest things and he feeds off it.  He even fed and watered the dogs this AM and I DIDN'T have to tell him too.

He now gets up, gets dressed, brushes, makes his own lunch and we're ready to go out the door, no problem.  I tell him EVERY AM how, proud I am and I good he is doing and how happy I am.  I contribute this to ROUTINE... It is the same thing EVERY AM.  NO CHANGES, becuase once I change on something, he'll throw it right back at me the next AM and try to vere off course and we'll be late!!!!

Keep strong...you can do it... you HAVE to, it's YOUR SON!!!

 

I just did the same experiment with my 9 year old son and had the same problems. He has been off ADHD meds for 4 weeks and I finally have had it. After watching my son act like he was on crack last night - rearranging the family room furniture, demanding that his brother play with him, yelling, etc. - my husband and I decided that the medication break was going to break the family. Life is too short. I called the doc  this morning and sent him to school back on meds. We talked last night about how frustrating it is to have a kid like this and how easy it is to let it drag us down. I'm contacting a family therapist today to help us through. The reason the child might behave that way is because when taken off medication, they go from feeling in control to feeling totally out of control. The adhd symptoms come back with a feirceness probably because the child is also riddled with anxiety. Behavior modification standing alone does not effectively manage all of the symptoms of adhd and thats why meds along with behavior modfication are recommened. When medication if effective, what the child gets used to is a sense of calmness and normalicy in their lives along with the entire family unit. For some if the medication stops working or the child is experiencing unacceptable side effects, I would stop the medication and consult my childs physician to find out why as stimulamat meds are not blood level medications. My sons medication only stopped working when he went through puberty and thats the only time the medication and dose had to be changed. JMO and my personal experience with adhd medications. Dont allow anyone to make you feel your  a bad as the very same people that do that have no knoweldge of adhd medication and give very bad advice.