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Daniel was tested at school. He can't put the sounds to words well. They claim it was just a decodeing issue. He has capd/lpd also. Get your school to pay for it. NO, I paid for the testing myselfivanhoe, the school sent him for capd testing and they told us he had hearing loss so we took him to ear nose and throat specalist and they told us he was fine. I guess now it is back to audiologist. But I am going to insist they test him for dyslexia and see what they say.100% agrees with Lillian on the private testing.Twingle,
If there is any way possible to pay for a private dx, I suggest you have one done. Schools are reluctant to call dyslexia dyslexia. They will call it a host of other things, or they will blame your child's difficulties on developmental factors. It is important to know if it truly is dyslexia because the reading remediation dyslexics need is specialized, and dyslexia can flow over into writing and math, long after the reading has been remediated effectively. Dyslexia is a life-long struggle and having a specialist say, "Yes, this is dyslexia," will help your child and YOU tremendously with this struggle. I can't tell you how much better my boy feels about himself, now that he knows he has dyslexia and is not "behind" or "stupid." It has done wonders for his self esteem.
Turnbaktym,
The fact that your older child, who is seeing a reading specialist, has continued with reversals until fourth grade may show that the reversals are related to his reading disorder. Many children do reversals that are not related to a reading disorder, but most of these stop by about second grade. If a child is continuing to do this in fourth grade and on and has reading difficulties, as well, then that's quite different. The two most likely are related. As a child's reading improves, the reversals should improve, as well, but they may still exist well into adulthood, though not as severely, and they can flare up when the dyslexic is tired, stressed or anxious. Last week, my son tried to do his math homework last, when he was tired and annoyed by more homework, and everything on the page was reversed, switched, out of order. He went to bed and did the work over again the next morning. No problem with reversals and switching the order of operations, at all.
Though much attention has been given to dyslexia and reversals, it should be noted that dyslexics transpose letters much more commonly, and these often are ignored as spelling errors, not seen as part of a greater disability. It is believed that this occurs because of an insecurity with the phonetic system. My son writing "waht" is an example. Interestingly, he will do this transposing when typing, as well.
just to touch on how long they may reverse letters. Both my boys are almost 10 now (going into 4th grade) One stopped in about 2nd grade, while the other still reverses. nothing really I or the teachers are seriously concerned about thoough. This same boy has been going to the reading specialist since K. and she has never expressed a concern. This year she was actually thinking about letting him out of the program, but figured let him get the extra help a little longer since new school and 4th grade and all. But just to let you know that they can continue for abit with reversals.
Lillian,
What kind of doctor would do a dyslexia test? My doctor originally said have the school test but I have heard otherwise. You are not the first to tell me that.
Turnbaktym,
Love my twingles also 16,16,8. Girl girl boy. What are yours?
Lillian,
Do you know if a child has dyslexia would he have a difficult time tying his shoes? My son struggles with this everyday. It just occured to me that this may be why he has a hard time. I think I read distinguising between right and left are difficult for them.
My son is 7 and still doing reversals, numbers and letters. They never did tell me WHEN it would stop, just that with boys it takes longer. His teacher already mentioned how bad his reversals are. I am not too concerened at this point though. We are working on it. I am a little dyslexic, and I get by....LOLDillonsmom,
my son is 8 and I am beginning to worry mostly because his reading skills. When you were a child how were your reading skills, or your sons? I am really getting fustrated as well as he is.
. You dont care what i think?Does anyone know at what age a child should stop writing reversals? I was told by the end of first grade this should not be as frequent. I have been suspecting that my son may have dyslexia along with adhd, today he brought home a math paper and almost all the numbers were backwards. Except 1,0,8 of course. His reading skills are terrible and we have been working on this with slow progress.
i stopped in 8th grade. But thats when threy caught my dislexia. The sooneryou get him help, the better. good luck!To all parents beginning the journey, I recommend Overcoming Dyslexia by Sally Shaywitz. What a fantastic book! You also can google her name and find great articles about her and the current research she is doing.
candy,
yes! more so lately. Seems like I see more of it. If he reads numbers he will say 12 instead of 21.
Please excuse my prejudice
, and I do admit that is what it is, as a result of fighting schools for years, but I think a private dx is far superior and that dx should be done by someone who makes a living dxing dyslexia and other language disorders. Others may disagree strongly with me, but that's the way I feel. lillian38965.8175925926Lillian,
I have to ask are you sure you are not working with my son? You have just described him 100%. YOU said have him tested privately. Should I not have the school test him? I have been told that our school will give me a hard time about testing him for this. Thank for the info. I will do more research.
WOW! LIllian! Long post!
LOL! Couldn't build up the focus to read the
whole thing.
Summary please! Sorry I'm just bein' lazy again.
LOL! Didnt take my meds today.
Candyhound,
Sorry, I hit post instead of preview. What other things should I be looking for in my son? Alphabet recognition was terrible for him.
[QUOTE=candyhound21410]WOW! LIllian! Long post! LOL! Couldn't build up the focus to read the
whole thing. 
Summary please! Sorry I'm just bein' lazy again.
LOL! Didnt take my meds today. [/QUOTE]
Oh, LOL!!! I'm kinda long winded on this subject 
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LOL! Thanks for adapting to my needs every 1. And twingle does he mix up
numbers in math problems too?
Dyslexia is defined by difficulties with the phonological system of a language, so this is where you want to look. Yes, some dyslexics do reversals, but only about 20% of them. They are quite common in young children, whether children have dyslexia or not. I strongly suggest having your child privately assessed by an expert in dyslexia. You can call your local or state chapter of the International Dyslexia Association to ask for references. You also may want to look for dyslexia support groups or centers in your area and ask for references. Finally, Wrightslaw.com has a "yellowpages for kids with disabilities" that lists the names of experts in dxing various disorders state-by-state.
Some common signs of dyslexia in a child your child's age are:
Difficulty remembering the alphabet
Difficulties rhyming (Sally Shaywitz, who is considered one of the leading dyslexia researchers, says this may be the most telling sign in a young child of kindergarten age on.)
Difficulties associating sounds with letters.
Difficulties applying phonetic rules to words. The child may be able to read "cat" but cannot read "hat." This is thought to be because it is common for young dyslexics to memorize whole words, instead of understanding the phonetic system and applying it to unknown words. As the child ages, memorizing whole words becomes more and more difficult. One of the ways dyslexics are tested is by giving them "nonsense" words to see if they can apply phonetic rules to words they have never seen.
Nonsense spelling. Examples of my son's were "strd" for "started, "glf" for "gift," They may be able to get certain sounds, but they can't get all of them, and they substitute or just fill in blanks as needed. Before intervention, it may be impossible to figure out what they are trying to spell, at times. My son now spells phonetically, so one can figure it out. He still comes up with some interesting words every now and then, though. Last year, he spelled "Jewish" as "Genish." Hmm.
Spelling a word multiple ways on the same page.
Spelling "easy" words incorrectly over and over, regardless of how many times the child has been corrected. For years, my son spelled "when" as "wehn."
Anyhoo, those are a few signs. You can google the International Dylsexia Association website for more.
Good luck!
Some dyslexics have directionality problems, and some do not. BOY, my boy does!!! Tie his shoes ? Until fifth grade, we used shoes that had velcro. I still don't get how he ties his shoes. I have never seen anyone else tie shoes, like he does. Other directionality issues have been: distinguising between left and right (I taught him to say, "I write with my right" to help him with this); map questions (like, "True or False: Paris is southwest of London?"); being able to open his locker (he couldn't do this for the first month of school last year).
As far as finding a specialist, I suggest calling the International Dyslexia Association and asking for references. You also can call dyslexia support centers in your area, particularly centers that use Orton-Gillingham remediation. Wrightslaw.com has a listing of specialists in its "Yellow Pages for Kids with Disabilities," so you might want to go over there and check out their info. Peter Wright is dyslexic/ADHD, BTW.
Continuing the subject of reversals 
, my son came home from school in a weird mood and asking me if it was O.K. to be a "B" student. I'm thinking, hmm, something must have happened at school. I, of course, assured him that being a B student was fine. The most important thing was to do the best he could do. Within about fifteen minutes, he fell asleep, and when he goes to sleep after school that means he's big time stressed. Well, I picked up his gym shirt that he had thrown on the floor before crashing, and he had written his name on the front. I'm not going to tell you his real name, but he had written his name in an interesting mixture of lowercase and uppercase letters and had reversed the "a". This is his OWN NAME. Yes, the boy is definitely stressed! I have no idea what happened at school . Do you think I should ask the coach for a new gym shirt? I'm thinking I should.
lillian38968.6679513889Dyslexia comes in many forms and is often used as a catch all for many symptoms (as are ADD, Autism and Bi-polar) No one knows what someones true issues are without proper testing!!!I was told dyslexia is caused by poor Auditory processing according to the newest research. If that is true then Auditory therapy should help along with language therapy. Son gets this both in speech classes. Thank you so much. I will email them today. You have been a great help.
Learning Disabilities Association of Mississippi
4080 Old Canton Road
P.O. Box 4477
Jackson, MS 39216
Web: http://www.ldams.org/
Mississippi Speech-Language-Hearing Association
P.O. Box 22664
Jackson, MS 39225-2664
(800) 664-6742
Email: msha@misnet.com
Web: www.mshausa.org
I found these two leads on the "Yellow Pages for Kids with Disabilities" at wrightslaw.com. You may want to start here. Contact the organizations and say you are looking for an expert in the dxing of dyslexia. If you ever feel like taking a day and driving to Houston or are over here for some reason, I can tell you where to go here. The woman who tested my son is past President of The International Dyslexia Association's Houston branch, is a certified OG tutor, is on the Board of Directors for a local dyslexia support center that is known throughout the country for its state-of-the-art dyslexia intervention and activism, and travels around the country speaking about dyslexia. She is so fabulous, I don't even have the words to describe how fabulous she is.
Try not to yell at him. Put that energy into having him evaluated by a professional and getting him the help he needs in school. I am curious with "grate" if he is transposing. It may look like a spelling error or that he is spelling phonetically, but it may not be either. See, this is where you need a specialist to distinguish. Someone who really knows how to test for dyslexia has ways of deciphering.
About leaving out the vowels...very common with dyslexia. My son does this all the time, even after studying the word over and over. Last week, the word was "obsolete." He kept leaving out the middle "o." We practiced and practiced, and on his test, he left out the middle "o."
This is going to sound strange but the dislexia in my family is hereditory, how its first noticed with us is if the child is left handed, and right footed, or vice versa (Where they'll hop or kick a ball with their right foot first and draw with their left hand, is how you find this one out). It then effects the message in the brain and then thats the cause. (It is for us anyway).
My oldest child is fine, it effects my second child, and my youngest one, it effects me and my sister, her oldest child is fine her second child has it, and her third is a baby lol. my brothers youngest has it and his older two are fine - and the list goes on...
It is much more recognised now - and ppl can do more. And the earlier its found the more they can do.
Best of luck and take Care
Louise
Oh and to add, the schools here can test for it, I don't know about there, I'd suggest talking any concerns over with the head teacher and see what your options are
Take Care
[QUOTE=donabuzibee]I live in a small town and after Katrina, a lot of the medical doctors left...their houses were destroyed so they went elsewhere. Is there a listing to show the nearest doctors for this and does Insur. cover it?[/QUOTE]
Sometimes insurance covers it and sometimes not. It will depend on whether or not the evaluator takes your insurance or any insurance, for that matter. I am guessing you live somewhere between LA and AL, if you were hit by Katrina. You may have to travel to a larger city to find a dyslexia expert. If you live this side of New Orleans, I can tell you where to take your child in Houston. It will be a drive, I know, but the woman who evaluated my son here is absolutely fabulous! Unfortunately, she does not take insurance, though.
[QUOTE=LMSKJ]This is going to sound strange but the dislexia in my family is hereditory
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No, that's not strange, at all. Researchers believe they may have found a dyslexia gene.
I live in Gautier, Ms. about 90 miles from New Orleans on the gulf coast. We are about 2 miles from the gulf of mexico, we can actually smell the salt in the water from the house I am renting.donabuzibee38980.3460532407With Kody, he leaves out the vowels alot. He spells by the way they sound and has problems even spelling them when he looks at them. I wrote down his words so he can write them at day care. one of his words is GREAT, he still spells it GRATE. even when it is right in front of him. He often leaves off one letter (usually a vowel) when he spells. His reading is fine as long as he doesn't have to write a sentence, that is where he has problems and it is like pulling teeth to get him to write anything. He starts to whin and cry and I have to bit my lip not to yell at him.