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does any of your children make inappropriate noises. my five year old son makes noises like a machine gun when he plays all the time. He has seen this on spongebob but has never let it go

Coyote howling, dog whining or barking, yup.  I used to hear horse neighing.  That was particularly annoying.

He does it during play and at more inappropriate times, like during soccer class yesterday, or at the cheetahs at the zoo.  The cheetahs were unimpressed; I'm sure they've heard it all.

My son also does this.  It's more like what I heard someone else on hear discribe as "verbal diarrea" ( spelled right?). It just has to come out.  But I notice that it stops after the meds kick in.  It will drive you crazy in the mornings, but I haven't figured out a way to deal with it.thanks elle. has your child been diagnosed with adhd? mine has not but I think its coming. His teacher is concerned because he makes these noise in school and now the other children are starting to imitate him. he did not do his worksheet today because he was playing with his pencil. he is also running out of the bathroom with his pants around his ankles because he is scared of the loud automatic power flush toilets.anyone else with the same issues?My daughter used to do this tongue rolling noise, but this stopped with medication.  Now, she will sing constantly on certain days, especially if I am late giving her her meds!

heheh my son growls like a lion a lot. It's annoying but not unusual. Kids imitate. I didn't know Sponge bob had violent scenes like that?! I'll have to sit down and watch a show or two and see if it's appropriate.

I wouldn't worry too much. This too shall pass. lol

Toliets in public places have been an extreme issue for us.  My son had ADHD and Sensory Intergration Disorder.  When the school was remodeling I pushed that they have a residential toliet installed in the early childhood room, just for the reason that my son wouldn't flush the commerical ones.  I did win that battle, but now he has moved on to kindergarden and they have the commerical flush ones and now we are back to the battle.  He is also very sensitive to the vacuum cleaner and the hair dryer.  His occupational therapist last year has done wonders with desensistizing his sensitive hearing. 

As for the noises....please when my son isn't talking he is making inapproiate noises     The constant talking is enough to drive any sane person over the edge.  Then he adds in these obnixous noises.  Not just gun noises....howling coytees you name it.  If it can annoy me he will make the noise.

The past couple of mornings I have tried the reward system.  If you manage not to make any loud noises before you leave for school you will get an extra book at bedtime.  Needless to say it hasn't work.  I am trying to keep positive and we will try again tommorow.

P.S.  the worse for us has been lately in swim lessons.  In the locker room he found that the shower echos.  As I am standing outside of the boy's locker room waiting for him I can hear him howling like a coyotee.

Mine too.    Friend tells me her boy does same,   gun noises,   lots of it.

My son clicks his tough, the kids at his table in school get very annoyed. His teacher asked me how I stop him, she asked if I separete him, I told her he has poor self esteem, and that would be bad. He would flip, if you point it out to him and say that he is annoying them he'll stop. He is very thrown if he thinks someone doesnt like him. Thank God he has been doing so well, so much so I am taking him to the skatepark on friday for a private lesson. He loves to skate.

I told his teacher he is in a honeymoon faze right now and he will get settled very soon. The tongue clicking will be the least of her problems  He also doesnt like the thought of going to the principal. Hes scared of her. She is the nicest lady in the world and has known him since he was a baby. At least its working though.

Knowing I am not alone makes a huge difference. Here is my dilemma, my sons behavior does not agitate me. He is five and has just begun kindergarten. He is very intelligent and has begun to start reading three letter words with me at home. I have a feeling his teacher is going to want him evaluated. She says in the morning when they are all in a circle and sings or the teacher reads books,my son stares at the walls or the carpet with very little to no focus.When he comes home he sings me the song they learned. During worksheet time he is more facinated with playing with the pencil than doing his work. She says he does not play toys with the other kids during free time and is partial to certain toys but at home he is all over the place playing with the neighbor children his age. My mother thought that when he was younger he may have been autistic, this belief infuriates me. He does make weird noises like I said in a previous post but a lot less than he used to. Please tell me if I am wrong, but all children are not the same but the schools expect them to be. I am beginning to think these classifications of children are nothing more but to give them an IEP so they can spoon feed a state standardized test come testing time. It is beginning to hurt and it is making me feel disappointed in my child when I hear these things from his teacher. I DO NOT want to feel this way! Please share your thoughts or experiences with me

Hi and welcome.  Sorry you are feeling bad about kindergarten.  Maybe you should arrange with the teacher to go and sit in on a class and see for yourself what is going on.  You could also discuss the situation with your pediatrician.  It sounds to me like his teacher is giving you a "heads up".  I know you are upset.  Who wants to hear this from the school?  Here's another idea.  You could have him evaluated privately.  The school doesn't need to know anything about it.  And it could ease your mind.  Let us know how it goes!Isiah makes noises but isn't on meds.  We have been working on changing the noises at school and trying to get him to take the noises in his head instead of outloud.  We have been doing good the last few days.  The noises seem to be the worst at independant time and carpet time.  He gets so bored and his mind wonders....as soon as that happens you can bet the noises begin.I am glad to hear that I am not alone.  Swim lessons are again tonight and I know the coyotte in the shower will be back.  But with your support I can better manage the looks I get from other parents. My son did gutteral throat noises and barfing and gagging sounds for
about six months or so. He stopped when I increased his meds. I think it
was a nervous response that he didn't need anymore.

No, here I am just subjected to constant singing. Lately it is the Star
Spangled Banner. He really isn't too bad a singer, but still... he gets stuck
in loops and can't find his way out of a song. I have a nine-minute video
of "The Big Rock Candy Mountain", sung on the toilet while kicking the
toilet paper roll back and forth between his feet. When he was two years
old, he would get stuck in the ABC song, "Now I know my
ABC..DEFG,HIJK..." round and round until he got a desperate look in his
eyes, and I would have to sing "Next time won't you..." and lead him out.
Cracked me up.

Christmas songs start in a couple months. By mid-December I might be
willing to trade for coyote noises. I'll stay in touch.My son makes gun noises and animals sound and even sings the mouth is constantly going. Glad I am not alone thought it was just us. He use to bark and make believe he was a dog. In the begining it was funny that ended fast.

Melchris........ I'll answer you in sections:

My aunt works in an elementary schools and from what I've heard the staff at her school talk ferociously about children and they're parents-like gossip hour.

ALL teachers do this.....this is human nature.  You will not escape this.  Try to accept that teachers WILL talk about both problem kids and their parents.

 I consider myself a pretty tough girl about almost every aspect of my life. However,when it comes to my child my skin is not so thick.

Great!  You will learn to transition this resiliency over to issues regarding your child.  You need a thick skin to effectively parent a special needs child!  You have way more influence at the school than you can imagine.  Learn to use it appropriately.  Learn to negotiate. Read everything you can at www.wrightslaw.com about effective advocacy skills.

Okiemom, you are absolutely right. I am having extreme difficulty coming to grips with this. He is my only child, I struggled healthwise carrying him during my pregnancy and medically I can't have anymore children. I'm sure like all of you, I have really high hopes for him and my dream is for him to go to college.

You are new to this journey.  Cut yourself some slack.  All of us come to terms with this eventually.  The sooner the better.  Don't waste precious emotional energy on things you cannot control.  Your child doesn't have a death sentence. Many people consider the "outside the box" creativeness that ADHD brings to a person's life a true gift.  Learn to groom your child's strengths!  Learn what his strength's are first.  Try to help him with his weak areas....but try to help him find his true passion over the next few years. THAT is where his success will be, regardless of what academic weaknesses he will have.  Don't think your son can't go to college.  He CAN if he chooses to and is motivated to!   For inspiration....click on

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ryCTIigaloQ  (Have volume turned up)

 

I am so scared about many aspects of this. I don't want any of his teachers now or in the future to be so frustrated with him that they don't see the wonderful child I do.

Accept that in the future....... you can't control if a teacher becomes frustrated with your son.  Again....don't waste precious emotional energy on things you cannot control.  How other people view your son is OUT OF YOUR CONTROL.

I am scared that Christopher will lose what I love about Christopher if he is on medication. 

My opinion is this is not the case with medication, if you have found the right medication and right dose.  View medication simply as a tool that opens up the ability to learn for your son.  Kind of like eyeglasses for a near sighted person. Do not fear medication.  Use a multi-modal approach to helping your son.  Medication MAY be effective.  Some children have negative side effects, but the vast majority do benefit.  Additional tools to help your son include behavioral therapy, school support, nutritional supplements, etc.

I am petrified that he could be ridiculed by his peers. In all candor, I was not so nice in middle and high school. I was a picker of the weak. When I matured into a young adult I looked back and regretted my behavior. As a 30 year old mother of a most likely special needs child, I pray every night for forgiveness.

You are human.  We make mistakes.  God is a forgiving God.  It hurts to see our kids be unaccepted by peers and made fun of.  It is painful.  But we have to get past that.  We have to help our kids socially.  We have to give them the tools to succeed socially.  Sometimes it involves medication,  sometimes it doesn't,  sometimes it means we go out of our way to find one special friend,  sometimes it means inviting kids over and over to play with our child.  It's work.  Big work

 I apologize for treating this like a death sentence. I know I have to step back and gain some perspective. Please tell me there is light at the end of tunnel and that my son can grow up to be a well adjusted successful independant adult.

Just realizing you need to step back to gain perspective is a HUGE start to a new attitude!   There IS light at the end of the tunnel.  There will be days of darkness....but there WILL be light!   Your child, with your loving guidance, WILL learn to be a well adjusted independent adult!  Do not look back at past mistakes,  do not look forward to the future mistakes that will be made.... look at what you can do NOW to help your child.

Okiemom

 

[/QUOTE] okiemom38982.423599537Yep!  Oh, my!  Each post or thread I go to describes my son so often!  He's into whining like a dog, growling like a lion or dinosaur, etc.  Not so much into the machine gun, more into the light saber noises. 

Right now as I right this my son is driving me CRAZY!!!!  Until his meds kick in, he is non stop with noises, singing, animals sounds, etc.  He was never like this on Focalin only started when he started Concerta.  Once it kicks in though, he is great the rest of the day! Tried the behavior thing to stop it, but I just think he cannot control it.  It's like he is rebounding from the Concerta in the a.m. instead of the evening!  We all need a good pair of ear plugs!

mars

Some good points made here re Melchris' latest post.  Labels can carry a stigma, but I also choose to focus on the services provided.

I would add that when it seems like schools and parents of special needs children are in conflict, often it's not the message that is conflict-inducing, but the way it is delivered (sometimes the way it is received too).  Generally, school staff care about children and want to help them.  Unfortuntately, there are teachers who just don't know enough about disabilities like ADHD.  And they really don't want any disruptions in the classroom because of everything they have to do.  Then you have lack of funding and resources. 

But, yes, there are those who have preconceived notions about disabilities or children they perceive as "problems."  Also, some teachers feel that if they bring up a possible disability, the parents will go into defense mode and be in denial.  Some parents feel that the schools are trying to shunt their children into SPED to get rid of the "problem child" and warehouse him or her.  The number of lawsuits challenging a school district's SPED provisions show that on a lot of levels, something is wrong. Parents have heard the horror stories and don't trust.  Each side blames the other.

I've seen both compassion and ignorance, myself.  But an early childhood program director once told me to not worry so much about a SPED label.  "Believe me, they have already labeled your child as the problem" because of his behavior, she said, when I expressed concern about my son going into SPED. 

Melchris, the private eval idea is probably best b/c it's likely to be the most objective view.

 

HI okiemom and esmom! Please don't get me wrong I am 100% behind my son's teacher. She is very caring and with all honesty probably one of the best I've seen. My son enjoys school greatly. My aunt works in an elementary schools and from what I've heard the staff at her school talk ferociously about children and they're parents-like gossip hour. I consider myself a pretty tough girl about almost every aspect of my life. However,when it comes to my child my skin is not so thick.Okiemom, you are absolutely right. I am having extreme difficulty coming to grips with this. He is my only child, I struggled healthwise carrying him during my pregnancy and medically I can't have anymore children. I'm sure like all of you, I have really high hopes for him and my dream is for him to go to college. I am so scared about many aspects of this. I don't want any of his teachers now or in the future to be so frustrated with him that they don't see the wonderful child I do. I am scared that Christopher will lose what I love about Christopher if he is on medication. I am petrified that he could be ridiculed by his peers. In all candor, I was not so nice in middle and high school. I was a picker of the weak. When I matured into a young adult I looked back and regretted my behavior. As a 30 year old mother of a most likely special needs child, I pray every night for forgiveness. I apologize for treating this like a death sentence. I know I have to step back and gain some perspective. Please tell me there is light at the end of tunnel and that my son can grow up to be a well adjusted successful independant adult.

 

My son who is 9, makes noises when not on the meds.  Especially during homework time, loud annoyingly high pitched noises (OOOHH, wahhoooo  etc)  Ask him to stop and 2 min later he is doing it again.  Does not do this when on Concerta.  This is the same child who is sensitive to noise,  Loud car radios, books on tape in the car,  went to daytona Speedway to see the race cars practiciing a couple of years ago and he hated it, to loud and refuses to go back now that he is a little older.  (we are not race fans just thought they would like it)  His twin brother does not have the noise sensitivity--although he does like to make noises sometimes but it is different in the way they do it. 

when coming off the concerta some days it is no big deal and other days you can actually see the change in facial expression etc.  Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde going on.  Mine is on 36 mg, what kind of dose is that comparable to what others are on.  I have a friend whose son is on 72 mg and takes rx to help him sleep at night.

turnabaktym:  my son is on 54 mg and he doesn't come down at all during the day or evening.  that is my i think the noises are so bad in the a.m.  i think he is coming down at night and then bam...morning he is crazy!  he didn't have problems sleeping until about 2 weeks ago.  now he doesn't fall asleep until 10/10:30.

how is your son in the a.m. when he wakes up? 

mars

 

Melchris,

You are right that all kids are not the same, however, I would be very cautious to disregard any red flag your son's teacher is bringing up with you.  I sense that you are really struggling with this idea of accepting that your son, like most of our children discussed on this board, is just a little bit "different" as compared with what some people call "normal" or NT - neuro typical children.  You mention your child's behaviors don't upset you.. That is great!  However, the teacher may be pointing these issues out to you because they know what the social toll it will have on your son as he gets in higher and higher grades.  His peers will be a lot less accepting of his "different" behaviors than you are.  This is what happened with my son.

I was exactly where you are right now back when my son was 5 in K.  He is now 13 in 8th grade and has official dx's of ADHD Primary Inattentive, generalized anxiety, dysthymia, an auditory processing disorder, plus..... to make things REALLY interesting..... he is gifted.  He just took the college ACT test as a 7th grader through the Duke University Talent Identification Program... and scored pretty well for a 7th grader. 

My son, at age 5....showed several behaviors that would be considered critieria for high functioning autism, however, he showed only a few....not enough for the full dx.  So....yes...... I've had a lot of experience with schools in dealing with my sensitive, caring, intelligent, and yes.... "differently" wired son.

Regarding the use of "labels".   You are dead right that "labels" are a neccessary evil in the public education system.  I only use these "labels" that my son has to get him modifications/accomodations at school that level the playing field for him.  It's hard for an ADHD kid to succeed in a non-ADHD world.... they usually need support.  That's the only reason I agree to labels for my son.  I don't let them define him as a person.  I guess my point is this..... only let the school use a label to get your child support. After that.......... labels go out the window.  Labels per se are not evil.....it is HOW they are used that counts!

Great thread.  Keep on reading and posting and learning!     Okiemom

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