could u some support and info

chicagurl, I understand you being overwhelmed with his home behaviours, but if you can focus on the fact he is doing okay in school, This is WonderFul!!!!!

If he had ODD, I would expect he would be having problems in school, perhaps his medications are not 'tweaked' properly for him.  He made need more/less or a different type, has the dr considered this.

What type of discipline do you use, does his father take an interest in him, does he have siblings, does he have a sport or interest ........

my son justice is 8 he has been takin concerta for a yr now and is on 54 mg and it don't seem to be workin no more, before he takes his meds in the morning he is very angry obnoxious talks back does stuff deliberatly. and it's the same pattern at night when the med is wearing off. i've spoken to the dr and he said that we should look for signs of odd i'm just worried about my son his grades and behavior in school are great but i am headed for a melt down because i can't handle the behaviors before and after med. he already takes 2 meds and i'm worrried that if they discover he has odd that he will need another med.

chicagurl wrote:
i've asked about a different med and the dr just said he needed time to adjust well it's been a yr and the moood swings and the acting like a baby and the constant verbal defiance is extremely frustrating

 

Chicagurl.....if your son is experiencing mood swings and has serious anger issues, that may indicate that he has something more than ADHD going on because if a child has bipolar disorder as well, stimulant medication are not recommended as they can cause extreme agitation in a child that also has bipolar disorder. When stimulant medication shows effective results, you should see improvements within the first day. Is your sons docotor a specialist in the field of treating childhood disorders because his advice is quite inaccurate. I suggest that your take your child and get another opinion and it would be wise to seek out a phychiatrist as they are trained to diagnos and treat children with childhood disorders. Good luck and keep us posted

Luvmykids0238268.333599537well the concerta worked fine for a while but lately he has been very verbally nasty in the morning before the meds start to take affect and at night when he is comeing off the med.i've asked about a different med and the dr just said he needed time to adjust well it's been a yr and the moood swings and the acting like a baby and the constant verbal defiance is extremely frustrating he has 1 younger sib at home and she is seeing how he acts. as far as dicipline i went to a parenting class and got some good tips there but he don't care what u take away or how long u ground or time him out he does what he wants and i'm just soooooooooooo tired of the everyday fighting and as far as his dad is concerned he has some issues with in himself and isn't allowed to see my son. i'm sure that plays a part in it as well as my husband not knowing how to react to him. we also try and reward his positive behavior when he does good on his school work we either give him money or buy him something. but lately i'm having a tough time dealing with it.

My son told me today, that he doesnt care what dad says - he is used to being in trouble.  'out of the mouths of babes'.  I think he does care.  He wants his fathers approval.  But trying to make our childrens dads understand this is really hard.

I dont really understand men and boys enough to comment on this, but all i can say is I wish it was different for them!

When he says he doesnt care, he does, he is just using this to feel in control, so dont be fooled.  He just cant control himself!

I would tell your dr that the med is not working and insist on trying something different.  It does not take a year to adjust.  My son showed a  remarkable difference in one day on dexamphetamine!

With regards to the fighting, refuse to be bought into it.  Explain to your son, there are two options for him, either do what he is told, or you will drag him by the ear kicking and screaming in front of everyone and make him do it.  I have never carried out this threat but it has worked.  actually once I had too .

I am really tough on my boy, but I refuse to spank him.  I will drag him and restrain him, but I hate spanking him.  I must admit I have lost it once and slapped his face.  Please dont hold this against me.  But I think honesty really makes others feel better including myself.  (plus I have had 4 vodkas and a glass of wine and I am a little more honest than I should be , please say a prayer for me tonight )  And if you read my other thread, you would know I am alone tonight and I am having a party by myself for once!)  -- I may delete this tomorrow so make the most of it!

But contrary to this I am also extremely affectionate to my son, probably more so than my other kids.  I know he needs it because everyone else is annoyed with him, and I do adore him, everything, even the really annoying bits!

 

 i don't believe there is anything wrong with spankin a child if it is callled for if he is or was doing harm to himself or others. and i can't deny i haven't gotten that far with my son because i have and ur right i don't believe it takes a yr to adjust to meds especially when he started it i saw an improvement right away. and i don't hold nothing against no one because i am in no position to judge ne one. we are all parents just trying to learn and understand why our children are the way they are.  u can be urself here i don't mind any advice and support i can get from other parents is great because even though i have my husband i am still going through this with my son alonewhat else is he on besides the concerta? My son is the same way in the am and the evening when the concerta has worn off, although we don't have the nastiness because he is only 6. If he is already on something else, you may have to deal with this, but if not maybe ask your md about strattera. My doc has said she likes this in addition to the stims, for just the reasons you are describing for your son. my son isn't on nothing but concerta in the am and the clonidine to hlp him sleep. a few others have said the combined meds seem to help there kids but when do u give the strattera
 

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