Maybe instead of an increase the dose just needs to be spread out throughout the day. My DS receives 1/2 tabs. 3x daily. I sure can tell if I have gotten wrapped up in something and missed that afternoon dose. I have found that with my son who is also DD. The supplements have helped a bunch. He has only been on it a week and I can already see a HUGE difference. He gets omega 3(1000mg) and Attentive Child 2x's daily. I would also watch what is he eating at lunch does it have the colored dyes in it? If you check labels you would be surprised in how many things that can be found in.
Good luck
Country39010.2882407407My brother gets the same way towards our parents. We both have ADD & ADHD, but my brother has had very bad reactions to some meds (like stratera) They have him on this new med now, I am not even sure what it is, but he seems to have no respect for anyone in the world. He is always negative about everything and doesnt care about anything. He has put himself in the hospital for self inflicting wounds, and that was when he was 11 yrs old. He has gotten a bit better, he is not as hyper and doesnt get as many headaches, but he still has a major attitude problem that has seemed to crawl out of no where. I agree with BETHANN, you should try Adderall XR for him, if his condition is not too bad. It does work for most people, but not everyone. I just switched to XR a few weeks ago, and it didnt work at all, I am switching back to regular adderall. But i do know most people really benefit from XR, especially b/c you can eat better on it (YEAH!!) Well good luck!Gwenhwyfar wrote:
not changed the dosage, their has been a weight gain for him over the summer and I thought it would, if anything, make the medicine less effective....so, why this rebound at night?
Gwenhwyfar...stimulant medication is not weight dependant so losing or gaining weight does not alter the effectiveness of the medication. The clinical response to medication is different for everyone and weight is not a determining factor. This is only true for Straterra which is a non stimulant. Sometimes with the onset of puberty the medication or dose may have to be changed due to hormonal changes but weight fluctuations will not alter the effectiveness. Stimulant medication should go in quietly and leave quietly. Your child is experiencing rebound in which case very often to remedy this a doctor may prescribe a short acting stimulant to avoid the rebound effect. I suggest that you discuss this with your child's doctor.
I would just like to say that I have noticed a definate hyper-hyper active phase in the evenings when his medicine has worn off. It usually occurs around the 6:00 or 7:00 hour. He is just off the wall hyper, and having to vocalize and he says he just has to let it out. He has been on Adderall XR for 2yrs now....but he does not take it in the summer. Last year, we did not see this effect. We have not changed the dosage, their has been a weight gain for him over the summer and I thought it would, if anything, make the medicine less effective....so, why this rebound at night?
If anyone has any other suggestion, I'm sure open to it.
Thank you all so much, yes we watch what our son eats, he is very allergic to dyes and certain sugars. Right now he is on Adderal XL, so we can't cut it in half, because it is a capsual. I am hoping the Specialist will put him on Stratera, or some new medication that will work. Our son also takes Clonidine to help him sleep at night. For now the Specialist suggested we give him 1 Clonidine with his morning pill to calm him down. Well that wore off by 11:00, and he was even more hyper. Also when he is in this mode, he gets into alot of trouble.
[QUOTE=nickybug]Thank's so much for all the reply's, we knocked his AdderallXL back 5mg. He is still very hyper at about 1:00 in the afternoon. He gets his pill at 7:30 in the morning, but it seems to wear off by 1:00. So we will see what the Speciaist has to say. I am hoping the next medication will work for him. We are all getting very frustrated. We haven't tried Strattera or any kind like that, but hopfully that will be next.[/QUOTE]
Have you tried concerta? My son could not handle adderall xr at all. concerta has been great, but we also use guanfacine which helps his overstimulation. When we have even increased the concerta, my son also need the guanfacine increased to be at his best!
Thank's so much for all the reply's, we knocked his AdderallXL back 5mg. He is still very hyper at about 1:00 in the afternoon. He gets his pill at 7:30 in the morning, but it seems to wear off by 1:00. So we will see what the Speciaist has to say. I am hoping the next medication will work for him. We are all getting very frustrated. We haven't tried Strattera or any kind like that, but hopfully that will be next.Our doc had my son on a higher dosage of Adderall ( I noticed lots of crabby behavior) so I bumped him down in the summer and he did great in Summer school...he is still on this dose for school it is 10mg less than the doc prescribed and crabby behavior is much better. I also have him take some Omega 3's in the evening.do you really think that omega three and flaz work,,,,,and how long will it take,,,and please tell me what do they really do for them,,,,,,if good i will start it ,,but need more informationHi! Just to let everyone know, we went to the Specialist. He put our son on Strattera. This is only day number 2, but we will have to wait for another two to three weeks to see if this will work or not. Again thank-you all for your advise and comments, it sure is nice to know I am not alone. At times it sure feels like it.I was told once that meds can bring out other issues more. My daughter has Oppositional Defiancy but when on meds it improves so is the med the right one for your child is the question?We started him out on Ritalin, but it seemed when we increased it, it just stopped working. The Dexedrine did not work at all. The AdderallXR worked well until we increased it. On all three he was started on the lowest dose, but on the increase he was worse than before. We are taking our son to his Specialist on Monday and we will see about new medication or if it is ADHD at all. Thank you eveyone for your advise.Hi there I am new here but I'll jump right in on this one as it seems our stories are similar. My son is 9 and has been on trials of Ritalin, Concerta, Dexedrine and AdderallXR, finally we have him on Straterra which is working very well for us. With all of the medications we started my son out on the lowest possible dose then within a month were increasing it and then when he maxed the dose changing it. We had to keep going back to Ritalin because at least then we could give it to him at intervals during the day because the others were wearing off within 3 hours. Anyway just wanted to let you know that you aren't alone and that I went through the same issues. If you are unhappy with the medication clearly state that to your child's doctor and ask what other options you have.Does this happen only at certain times of the day or is it a constant thing? Does there seem to be some sort of threshold of medication that he just can't pass? Have you tried non-stimulants like strattera or alternatives? Have you tried Daytrana? It's a ritalin patch. My son was on 40mg ritalin and is now on 30mg with the patch. Less medication, but better results. It's a continuous release system so there are no dips in coverage and the rebound at the end of the day isn't an issue, either. Go to the meds board and look at the thread Daytrana Anyone? I'll bump it for you! HTH!Is your son currently going through a trial of medication to find the right medication and the right dose? This is an unacceptable side effect and suggests either its the wrong medication, wrong dose or perhaps its the wrong diagnosis or something more is going on. What does your child's doctor have to say about this? More info would be helpful