Are we "DaVinci Types"? | ADHD Information

-Or has this subject been covered a million times before?

I have to ask as the search engine crashed on me when I tried to search this site for DaVinci references and just after some valuable opinions...

DaVinci Method

Radio Interview with Charles Adler (30 mins; -yet fascintating listening!)

Not sayin you gotta buy the book, just wondering what others think of the whole "DaVinci" idea...

HoneyBee {Increasingly shocked by how little Adult ADHD support I can find available here in the UK}

HoneyBeee39050.3822685185 ... just like that.

... but ultimately there's just one difference between an ADDer mind and a nonADDer mind - the nonADDer mind has a more complex architecture or structure,

From that single observation comes all else.

Take a look at the platonic solids (structures) -
the nonADDer mind generalizes to the tetrahedron
the ADDer mind generalizes to the icosahedron.

So - you're probably thinking!
~BS~

ho well! ... a little more then ...

...well...

Homo sapiens -35k years ago. 3 dimensional mind

Homo sapiens -5 to 10k . 4 dimensional mind
The ability to encompass the fourth dimension within our own minds.
This also heralded the start of written language i.e. the first text.

*And now 13 dimensional mind*

... btw - it's all kinda' obvious.

... the ADDer ...
*13 dimensional mind*

Simply the pattern of 3-4-13 is a Universal pattern of evolution - as seen in (eg) carbon

... carbon ->- graphite (3d) diamond (4d) Fullerene buckyball (13d)

4d
tetrahedron
13d
icosahedron

The ADDer mind arises as an entirely expected function of the basic and single Universal rule of evolution.

Essentially - that's it ... so guys ... welcome to the capacity to envisage a more complex reality.

Pretty much all of HB's post fits into this scheme - noting that the more complex mind stores more in less physical space and therefore can accommodate more.

And of course - is more tightly cross-linked.

Which of course ->- represents ->- creativity.

... who'd have thought?

... lots more - but how about that for starters ... :-) ...

hee

(what the heck!) hee

... mind uncovered

- and *now*

***everything***

changes.

SB_UK39053.3817939815and i LOVE the little gray praying one (KIDDROCKS one) --- that is great. hahahaha. they are nice these emoticons!

so what i want to know SB_UK is how the medication affects the wonderful icosahedron mind.

is it a help or a hindrance????? is it pushing it right back to the tetrahedron non-ADDer evolution or is it simply allowing the icosahedron to work more effectively.

great question

so the answer is ... (short and punchy)

->- activation of dopaminergic reward circuitry ->- man feels good
->- alteration in structure of mind driven by altered threshold of sensitivity to dopamine
->- realisation of the change to icosahedron ->- restores appropriate response to dopamine n/t
->- all the bad stuff we feel - the driver to switch into adder thought ie switch from 4d mind into 13d mind
->- + meds (stimulants) - provides us with temporary respite from the push into a more complex mind.

OK - so - now described another way.

The social stimulus has been described as the force which pushes us to conform
ADDers do not conform to linear thought.
Consequence - alarms go off in our own heads.
The meds switch off those alarms.

Now - those two ideas are ways in which one can see how we're massaging the 'heavies' into giving us a break - and letting us be.

Overall - the process which D n/t is a double-edged sword -
we *need* to conform sufficiently to play on the same planet harmoniously

but *not* conform to the extent that non-conformers are considered bad solely because they do not conform.

... any clearer?

... good call though - the issue of meds lies at the heart of all of this.
ok - so that didn't read so 'nice' ...

How about - to drive reaction in response to action?

{the role of D n/t in the nonADDer ->- ADD switch}
btw - if we all conformed there'd be no change

... no evolution

... when there's no evolution we are no more

...

...
And I envy people that can be content with so little.I mean so little stimulation.
I imagine not living what feels right can lead to depression ,possibly even illness ?

I need change & adventure.
I had enough of the negative kind though.
I want to be around for a while.
worldisround39053.7382638889exactly ...

sure ...
->- the mind is the aspect of our biology which separates us off from our closest evolutionary neighbour.
Regardless of mind though - our neighbours and ourselves are motivated - that is - that we don't just crawl into a hole and die.
The 'desire' bit of the brain is located at its geometric centre.
The mind (cortex) -lies at the periphery.
The mind is a structure which connects to the machinery in the centre - whereby - when the structure is set correctly - the effects on the centre by the periphery are maximized.
->-
Our cup of dopamine floweth over.

From another angle.

Imagine the mind as the two pans of weighing scales.
Imagine the fulcrum as a switch.
And the switch being maximally open when the pans are balanced.

The pans being balanced represents a logical consistency within our minds.
Extreme logical consistency is equivalent to enforced moral consistency.

...which is - of course ... morality.

SB_UK39053.706400463 ADD is a blessing and a curse in many ways !
It makes it difficult sometimes in my social relationships.
I seem aloof and cold at times. I feel people are too often obsessed with mundane and unimportant matters. (unimportant to me ,no doubt) so they notice I am not enthused and take it personally.
I feel that most people live in a little box which they call their minds. i feel that people are satisfied with too little and i do not mean material things. Many are drugged by a belief that all will be better after death (how sad) and this gives some the excuse to be placated and inactive. But hey, maybe they are right but I will act differently just in case..........
All I know is I have a great sense of adventure, great curiousity (my mind is a greedy sponge that cannot soak up enough) and will not rest,and these two traits make me very passionate about life.
And I enjoy people who are the same.

worldisround39053.7375115741well i guess - er clearer? not exactly a hundred percent clearer as it goes

but i kinda agree that the dopamine n/t is controlled ie i am not convinced i have a chemical imbalance exactly --- i think i have a dopamine neurotransmitter which is deliberately withholding for its own reasons (- hence the situation with tolerance because the brain just re-adjusts after it works out that there is an outside influence distorting its levels of dopamine output)

but after that i got a bit lost - i have to admit.

it is witholding dopamine to push me into using my 13d mind? is that what you are saying. but how does that work?

well it all sounds good to me.

Oi. We'z hijacking the thread here!

We ARE special people, we ARE hyper intelligent. We only need to home in on our abilities and use them positively. I'm positive about this.

Imagine if we put a huge bunch of us in one hall.........I reckon you would sense a lowly 'hum' in the atmosphere from all the high speed trains in our minds......think what we could create, as a team......and to think we could probably do it in about an hour aswell......

How I wish I could help you guys realise what we have...........

Take my very own father (RIP my mentor), he had ADHD and he had some amazing ideas which he shared with some multi-billion dollar companies he worked for, which I firmly believe would now not be quite as big without his input.

Ok, so we moved continent every three years or so and experienced many schools and he had to control his temper with Beta Blockers (I firmly believe his anger stemmed from being forced to "conform").....but over the years these Beta Blockers took their toll on him and he repressed and grew "smaller" and smaller with less amazing ideas if that makes sense.

Why are we being surpressed and forced to be normal when we have such a wonderful gift? Sure there are downsides to it that we need to tackle (and would be able to tackle given the freedom to express ourselves properly!) but think of those positives:

The ability to HyperFocus is just one of them. It allows us to focus on something really deep for just long enough for some us to have invented the lightbulb, the hoover, the Virgin Mega-Empire, the artistry to capture centuries of attention (including from Normal Types!) and much more more. It took me an hour to notice I had the ability to HyperFocus and I've used it and fed it ever since.

We are also able to make the most unorthadox connections in a surprisingly short space of time, that can take a normal Type years of study and research to make. I tested this theory on Normal Types at work the very next day and it bloody works. I don't care if they do start talking behind my back, my Team Leader was engrossed in listening to my theory and you can tell it's sunk in. What will happen will be good for me, even if it was the sack as this would signal an opportunity for me to find a better path. Being shouted at by disgruntled customers all day because of somebody elses incompetances abhores me to the job anyway!

Our Theta brainwave is more active than in Normal Types and this is a creative brainwave which allows us to display some wonderous artistry enough to wonder or turn a Normal Type Green with envy.

We're Einsteins, yes we're nuts, so what if we want to wear an Orange Composers coat through the High Street, we LIKE that coat and if anyone laughs at us for wearing that, it's because they may not like it, but what they dislike more is that you have the guts to be yourself instead of a sheep who follows fashion. Being yourself attracts more 'in-tune' people into your life because you are letting them see the real you.

I for one condemn the drugs we are being fed that are forcing us to fit in with Normal Types. -It doesn't work and all it does is drive us more to distraction and depress the hell out of us, making us burst in negative ways instead of positve ways. -Which is where all our negative traits come from I reckon. It doesn't help when you and society are fed things like "Deficit", "Disorder", "Disruption", "menace" and suchlike. Why as a kid are we not fed words like "brilliance", "genius", "Different", "gifted"? no wonder we don't think much of ourselves or our abilities.....we are led to believe we're weird and thus our abilities are recognised as disabilities and we only have to believe it and that's it, we're stuffed.

We are the future.....even as Adults...we will shape the future. Look at Richard Branson....he was the first to come up with the idea of a holiday on the moon and I firmly believe that in time, he will make it happen. He has the very same gift. -He's still a self-admitted rebel too! He screwed up at school just like all of us. We were bigger than school. We were able to learn something new overnight if we wanted. We had no time for lessons as our ability to make the connections we do are approaching the same result from a different angle. OVERNIGHT (if you like) instead of with years of schooling. No wonder we fidgeted in cla$$ and drifted off. Who the hell did they think they were locking a DaVinci in a cla$$room being taught the 'long way'. -Do you remember?

Now look at us. Society rejects us, gives us the word "deficit", labels us sub-human and stifles our amazing thoughts with drugs. Take Ritalin for example. It shuts down one of our biggest gifts, the ability to HyperFocus. We are seen as a threat to stable society and the only reason we used to cause trouble is because we were bored and needed more excitement, not drugs to surpress what we have.

The school system of today is not designed with us in mind (admittedly why would it when only 10% of us have this, it's not seen as financially feesible in a Normal Types eyes for example) as it has a structered environment for Normal Types to study in at 30% brain use, wheras we need to be outside studying far more complicated stuff at a much faster rate as we function on either 0% or 100%. There is no inbetween for us and as long as we and children with ADHD are brought up in this conformed society, we are going to suffer. We are going to overflow with pa$$ion we are 'not allowed' to exert and that's when we get angry and cause a commotion as this is not realised. We hate not being listened to when we have an opinion on something. What's worse is that as kids we are never going to be able to explain this to anyone anyway as we are only just noticing there is something different about us, leaving it to the Adults to decide what's 'best'.

Don't get me wrong, I don't dislike Normal Types at all, they have it easy in fact. Society is built around them, so it's easy for them to just get on at 30%, but they will never really accept us for the Da Vinci's (yes, he had these gifts too, along with Edision, Einstein, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Silvester Stallone, P. Diddy and more) we are. Is there an element of jealousy or a fear of change involved in accepting us I ask myself?

Ok, so I'm writing a friggin' novel here as usual and will probably spend a week editing it to perfection, as this is what I'm like, but my message is to all of us.

Don't let the Normal Types surpress us! Let the Normal Types see what we can really do (for them) let us show them the good we can do the world and let them then realise we are an a$$ett instead of a burden. Let's face it, before the label ADHD was created, we were able to do all this, instead of seeing it as "upsetting the Apple Cart".

Of course we're poorly, of course we're depressed, of course we are suffering, but only because we are led to believe it's a disability that needs drugs to control. We only behave bad when we are unable to express ourselves in our own gifted way and Normal Types are s**t-scared of letting us do that, hence the surpression.

I don't have all the answers, of course I don't, but we wouldn't have light if Edison wasn't allowed to express himself, we wouldn't have vacuum cleaners, we wouldn't have Microsoft, we wouldn't have the laughter given to us from many stand-up comedians who have it. I could go on forever.

HoneyBee -Unsure of why a dollar sign comes up everytime I type two 'S's? It won't let me change it.

HoneyBeee39053.3758796296

I've read most of the book. Love the idea that those with ADHD have the propensity to be super successful if we don't repress our true nature but yet use it to our advantage.

I didn't quite get to the part that explained HOW we are supposed to rise above our 'different ways' of behavior and make it work for us.

A great perspective on ADHD at least!

Definately!

I must admit, I did see 'carefully (legally) worded' bits as I was reading it...but on the whole the website has given me a 'lift' and I now know exactly what one of my symptoms is, what it's called and how to channel it. That's gotta count for something.

HoneyBee

HoneyBeee39050.4820717593I use the DaFreaki method myself.

that is a little green man with his tongue sticking out.... denoting (i thought) somebody feeling sick - i quite like him. i guess you could translate him into "UGH" or "YUCK" or "BLEURGH" or "what a horrible, crap, miserable idea/thought/sentence"

I also like the guy with the little black eye. looking so sad.
and the confused face - this one...

.........Also affectionately known as the 'DRD4 Polymorphism' gene thingymeejig............

(...cough....)HoneyBeee39051.565775463 ... certainly DRD4 allelic variation has panned out a little better than the now discredited DAT result (often called the landmark discovery in ADD {genetics}
- published in the late 80's
...in the 'American Journal of Human Genetics'
- '86 from memory).

So - kinda' ...
... but we've gonna' gotta' haveta' bridge the gap between genetic variation and the experiential perspective of ADD.

- Or otherwise described -

'How 'likkle' change in central dopamine receptor isotype result in ADDers with 'funny 'eds?'

How ...?... indeed ...?...?...?...

:-)
SB_UK39051.5845601852yup --- we are the FUTURE.

or so we wish.

but really as long as we can all get along ---- and why should that be so HARD? normals are great, adders are great and we can benefit each other in the long run so lets just appreciate and support one anothers strengths. in the end all that matters is love for all and each other. everything else is just fluff.

What if nonADDers were to become ADDers?

... sounds a bit freaky - but there'd of course -then- be *no* them and us.

The 'selfish gene' by Dawkins - fed into the 'meme.'

We'll shortly be reaching an understanding of meme - as follows - 'contagious thought' ... though of course - not an infectious disease.

ADD is kinda' like a stronger mind - and just like the 'selfish gene' - it will propagate.

So - sure everybody rocks - the pattern of evolution though isn't a statement that one group is better than another - merely that there are rules - and ADDers are the next logical step on - for man.

... Don't (though) mistake more highly evolved - with 'better' ... or 'worse'
- introduce 'better' and 'worse' and there's an automatic backlash.

Here's another perspective - remove man from the Universe and there will still be directed change - but that change cannot be described as good or bad - since the concept of good and bad - does not exist in a universe without mind of man.

I have taken to describing ADDers who refuse to see this idea ... as ... shirking their responsibility to society - which I *do* believe - but which is more used to reinforce the strength of my belief in this idea.

ps

->-

-<- what is this?
SB_UK39051.722337963 :-)

... we are da Vinci types ...
... ... the rest of the post was an attempt at a brief explanation for ~why?~

... ... ...no matter [regarding the rest of my post {though}]

... ... suffice it to say {though} that I am ABSOLUTELY certain that the reason for the association between
... *~ADD and creativity~*

*has* been uncovered.

SB_UK39051.5634953704

Damn why isnt that book written in danish too?? How new is it??

Mikkel
Mukle39052.6809490741

I got the wrong book

hi Lovelylady,

I am only on the second chapter, but I can already see HOW. The HOW comes from within you. You are the one with the creativeness, the imagination....let it flow your own way. Only we have the gift of HyperFocus, we just need to learn how to channel it. The normal types (who don't have the gift of HyperFocus) prefer the comforts of normality, because it has been researched, but WE need more. A whole lot more (stimulation) and we need to learn how to put it to its real use without listening to orders or conformity or suchlike. -How many of us can honestly say we want to or are happy to conform to the society of Normal Types? It's easy to think so when only one in ten have ADD/ADHD. We can cure some of the negative aspects of ADHD just through power of thought (again this is OUR ability) or we can conform to society and have our gifts surpressed by drugs (legal or illegal). The book only teaches how to grasp the gift. How we use the gift or the ideas we inspire from it need to be as unique as us.

Does the story below sound like you?

Answering its call....

An Eagle egg was once found outside a henhouse by a farmer who mistakened it for a hen egg. It was placed in the hen house with all the other eggs as to all intense and purposes it looked like one. Not long after the egg hatched it became obvious that there was something different about this hen, but still she was taught to peck and scratch and scurry along the floor like other chickens. She was firmly warned about flying with "Chickens don't fly, they flutter and fall" Yes, she had wings and a beak and all, but she felt very different, getting no satisfaction from the food or her surroundings and soon became bored of them, which resulted in a very unhappy depressed Eagle. She couldn't work out why she was so different and not satisfied with the life of a hen. As a result she would create her own excitement, which was be considered to be "mayhem" in the henhouse. The chickens would complain "why can't you just get in the pecking order like everyone else?" She was considered a selfish, disordered troublemaker.

Then one day she saw an eagle flying high up above, soaring, free. This took her breathe away. She excitedly told the other chickens about what she had seen. They scoffed at her: "Flying is risky, irresponsible and impractical. - When are you going to grow up and join the pecking order of this chicken coop?" She felt ashamed and disheartened and fell asleep that night feeling alone and hopeless.

The next day she saw the same eagle, but this time it let out the cry of an Eagle. Uncontrollably her whole being responded to that Eagles cry with her own Majestic Eagle's cry. What just happened? Did that glorious sound come from her?? Chickens don't make that sound, only Eagles do.....hang on.......and the penny dropped that she was an Eagle...........

Realising what she was, she just stretched her wings for the first time and flew.....She was no longer imprisoned by the chicken coop because she was no longer imprisoned by the idea she had to be a chicken. Nothing could contain her anymore.

Moral of the story: A chicken coop can only coop chickens. It cannot stop an Eagle from soaring when he hears his call......

Tell me your heart didn't move when you read that or you felt you were an Eagle at some point....and it's not my story, it's Garret Loporto's who was also born with this gift.

HoneyBee

[QUOTE=lovelylady2348]

I've read most of the book. Love the idea that those with ADHD have the propensity to be super successful if we don't repress our true nature but yet use it to our advantage.

I didn't quite get to the part that explained HOW we are supposed to rise above our 'different ways' of behavior and make it work for us.

A great perspective on ADHD at least!

[/QUOTE] HoneyBeee39051.1475347222

....and? How does it fair for you?

I do value your posts Worldisround, so pray do tell us a little more....

HoneyBee

you go, honeybeee ---- don't let the chickens get you down. if you feel blessed to have ADD (which i do) then you are blessed! it is a gift. you just need to work out how to access it.

regardless of how hard it might make day to day life - i wouldn't throw it away for a normal's life! why limit yourself. your friend was right --- you are unique, sod what others think........ keep smiling.

I think we have the potential to soar like an eagle but what I don't get is what you do about the memory, disorganization, and impulsiveness that makes you forget important appointments, lose important documents, miss important deadlines, or spend limited money.

Through our mind we overcome these things? I've been trying to 'channel' my energy to deal with these negative aspects all my life. I suppose this is what separates the repressed ADHD and the exceptional ones.

When you get to the part that explains how to do this let me know because I think it is important to understand.

Hi CHJones, -always a kind positive word from you, boosting me. My thanks to you. You have also made me blush!

Hello again LovelyLady,

The things we don't remember are down to how important we perceive them to be.

If we train our minds to think independantly, that doctor's appointment becomes much easier to remember because without our left arm (or whatever ailment we need to see the doc about) we cannot function as a 'whole'. When our unique minds are repressed by society and its demands, we don't feel that we are important and thus don't feel that our left arm is worthy of the time.

We remember some things without even so much as a note to remind us. -Have you never wondered why that might be? Have a look at the factors of importance surrounding the subject of what we remembered without any help and see if you can work it out. We are so bogged down by the amount of (Normal Type=unstimulating) things we do forget, that we fail to look into the reasons we might remember something without help.

We are so flooded with the behaviour and thought patterns of Normal Types that we are forever trying to conform to it, which is totally unnatural to us. We think differently and that is the key factor in why we don't and will never conform. We can supress ourselves if peer pressure gets to much, or we can take flight, like the Eagle, but if we channel the right areas of our brain function, we would see things in a way that's much clearer to us, allowing us more room to remember things.

LonelyLady, I see no difference between a repressed ADDer and an exceptional one, it's a positive progressive move to channel towards.

I personally have a suspension cabinet, that is alphabetically labelled and nothing goes in there until it is reacted to and if I react to them immediately (with that gift only WE have) it gets done before a pile appears for us to procrstinate with.

But then I am currently a repressed ADDer on the road to an exceptional one and I (along with all ADDer's) have the ability to HyperFocus on the road long enough to get there, because all project completions are a reward, not something we have to fear. The road is never a long one for us.

HoneyBee

HoneyBeee39051.2991319444

I agree with all that you have said and with the theory behind the Davinci method.

But the practicality of the matter is that I am a single mother of two children who need me to give them certain basic parental norms - consistency and predictability. For example, if I make a rule or set a consequence, I must remember it to enforce it.

One might say that it is not important enough for me to remember but that is not true. My children are THE most important thing in my life and their well being and stability require consistency and predictability. I do not believe in parenting with no structure or rules especially since my children are not ADHD.

So I struggle making that connection between being 'exceptional' and excelling in my characteristics, and providing the normal things that my children need.

I wonder if the guy who wrote that had children...

Would you still struggle if you realised it only takes an hour to do what it take a Normal Type 6 hours to do, as long as we are enjoying what we are doing? It's all about having knowledge of our wonderful gift.

If you think like a DaVinci....you come to adapt.

With this knowledge you come to realise that if you actually do something you enjoy doing, it will take half the time it does a Normal Type, freeing you up with more time for your family.

We see everything as a "whole" situation, not like a normal Type who sees everything in "parts". Therefore we are not able to function like Normal Types. You are a classic example (In My HumbleOpinion. -Please don't shoot me down yet!) of someone who is trying to use a special mind to live a normal life. We can't do that, that's why it's not succesful and such a struggle. -And I'm no exception! It's just that I have chosen to take the path to finding out in which way I am creative. It's fun and my life (obviously) has given me lots of clues to play with.

We need to learn about our special mind and how to use it to our benefit. We can do things in half the time, given plenty of our HyperFocus gift. You have it if you have ADD.

Find out what it is you enjoy most in life (that's the hardest part, which can take the longest of all), instead of forcing yourself to do that mundane task that brings the money in and start sharing this passion with others. The rest will come to you. You have a brilliant mind.

We have the gift of being able to excel at things we enjoy and be hopeless atthings we don't enjoy.

I have no idea if meds will influence the sense in what I have just written though, but to me it sounds logical. I just don't explain myself too well, which is why I end up with hugely long posts. lol

HoneyBee

P.S: Garrett has two children, both of whom are believed to have the gift.

[QUOTE=lovelylady2348]

I agree with all that you have said and with the theory behind the Davinci method.

So I struggle making that connection between being 'exceptional' and excelling in my characteristics, and providing the normal things that my children need.

I wonder if the guy who wrote that had children...

[/QUOTE] HoneyBeee39051.4049305556

Hi Worldisround,

I think you might be heading for a period of HyperFocus by the looks of it.

During this time, you have the power to find out exactly what's right for you. Just be careful to assess and distribute the right thoughts to the right 'pile' (bin and go-with piles).

That's my ultimate advice, if I am in a position to give it that is.

Sie sind der Meister von Ihrem eigenen Schicksal. -Is that right? (My team leader at work will be assessing my German in 3 months from now and says it better have improved! -Yet German was (apparently) the first language I learnt to speak. Yikes! ) lol

HoneyBee

P.S: That's meant to be "You are the Master of your own destiny" which is so perfect for us!

HoneyBeee39054.6194907407 Wow honeybee. Impressive !! I can already smell the bratwurst and sauerkraut !

I would say we are master of our destiny more so than alot of us assume. I feel I can control 75-80% of that. Of course I feel that isn't enough. But that's life.
Things are still much easier said than done regardless of Da Vinci method or not. But it is a direction a fork in the road if you will, to turn on to.I definitely believe people should follow their passion (ADD or not). Except of course if you are into making fashionable human skin lampshades in various colors and patterns.

worldisround39054.5359953704

you know when you talk about the living the dream and following the hyperfocus to see where it takes you.

i feel so encouraged by those moods when i'm productive furtive and able to find and invent solutions or create ideas.

the secret for us is to have our partners come along for the ride and be part of the dream.

if the farmer never sews he never reaps,but he never loses.

so often we see the glass as half full even when its 1/4 full, while the "realists" poor cold water on ideas they so often call a whim

malcolm39054.6403125time for another coffeeYes I understand what you mean.
Those realists do like to blow out the candles quite often, don't they?
... there's absolutely NO DOUBT in my head that we are.

... bottom line is that Da Vinci types are more creative.

Creativity comes from making 'unorthodox' connections.
The 'unorthodox' connections arise from a different structure of mind.
The ADDer mind is more heavily interconnected - cross-linked (if you like) -
making the observation of 'unorthodox' but real associations - possible.

... or perhaps described another way - that one can store a whole bunch of info on a cat - and a whole bunch of info on a dog - in memory.
The more efficient way of storing the info - though - would be to store all of the common bits of cat and dog together ->- so that only 1 copy of data need be laid down.

Think procedural language eg C vs OO eg Java.

C predates Java - just as the nonADD mind predates the ADD mind.

:-)

... and I'm being really very serious - that ADD is arising due to pressures driving the evolution of man.

... before discounting the idea - is it so difficult to imagine?

If the question - 'then why does it feel like a disease rather than a not-disease?' ... is your reason for discounting that idea - then I'd be real happy if you'd explain to me why you are wrong ... :-) ...

... incidentally - why should one feel good - if sporting a more highly evolved state?

The answer lies (randomly plucked example) ->- in the comic book series the X-men ... and to a lesser extent - the modern remakes on film.

Were the X-men happy?
... No ...
Why?

ahhh! society

society shunned the X-men
~just as~
nonadders shun adders

... of course not as overt -
but just as debilitating.

No worries though - we'll *all* be adders soon enough.

... isn't that a cool thought ... :-) ...

... now where did I put my specs?
... geeze ...

... ... ... 'but I don't even wear spectacles!'
Ahhh!

->-ADD-<-
SB_UK39051.5453587963

Am I the only one who has absolutely no idea what you're saying?? -v-

I gather you are supporting the idea, but whichever part of the brain that just came from is not one I recognise..... I'm sorry...

Or is it exactly this that makes us unique?

HoneyBee

[Always editing...comes back in to say that the more times I read it, the more bits I am beginning to understand ...(puzzled)... ]

HoneyBeee39051.561875

i think you can see it as a gift if the world hasnt given you a few too many uppercuts.

us adders are whole brain thinkers we focus on the bigpicture multi task and have a visionary capacity even if we cant spell or rmind ourselves of a dinner engagement.

when the hyper drive is in full swing we can do some wonderful things .

look at Richard Branson and Bill Gates who have adhd.

but you also have to acknowledge the pitfalls of having adhd and being aware of them is the best method of helping ourselves manage our conditions.

if we continue to learn more about the bad aspects of the condition and use that as a method of thwarting ourselves when we can become negative and destructive we stand a better chance.

Here! Here Malcolm! You explain things much better than me....

G'night mate.

HoneyBee

Sometimes people are to ignorant to realize ignorance is bliss

hmmmmm interesting take can't say I have ever seen that particular perspective before. . . . . . .well done!