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[QUOTE=BETHANN]Did he really need to be suspended?? How old is he??
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He is 6!!! He's only in 1st grade! Apparently it was a cummulation of things throughout the day... hitting someone, kicking someone while standing in line, throwing his pencil in class, disrupting reading class... NO I don't think he deserved suspension!! How is keeping him out of school going to help anything??
I feel your pain. I am having issues with school, too. I just found out that my son will not be allowed to attend the end of the year field trip because of his "behaviour issues". I have not received any note, phone call, or e-mail indicating he had been in any trouble lately. As a matter of fact, his last few weeks his end of the week progress notes were good. I thought we were finally on the right meds for school, but maybe not. The school fails to communicate with me at all, and I send them notes constantly! It is definately frustrating!huntnmom, I can't believe that the school has not gotten in touch with you about the field trip. DId you have to pay for it? Are you sure they are not just THREATENING your son??
What if you vounteered to go?
Call the school/principal immediately!
Another lousy decision!!
I can't believe they suspend 6 yr olds! That is ridiculous!
Is there ANY thing you can do to fight it - he is WAY too young to be suspended!!
You request an IEP and services from the school. You ask them to do something.
We have blue cross blue shieldWe have Tufts insurance. I live outside Boston.
The 10 days he was on it was from the 40 free card, however it expired and the doc has yet to get another one in. He should be soon, but I can't wait! His dad has agreed to pay, I actually just got a call from his wife tonight asking me how much I needed for it... The doctor wrote a prescription for 15 days in hopes that he will get that 40 free card in soon... as for insurance, the issue is NO insurance. His dad is supposed to cover him but he just got a new job so he's in that 90 day waiting period. I hadn't thought about if it will cover it when we DO have insurance! GREAT now I'm worried lol
The school... UGH I'm still so mad... It just reassures me though that I NEED to request an IEP or at least a 504... there is only 2 more weeks of school left so I might need to wait til next year but believe me, I'm all over it then! Did I mention that I'm SOOO mad?? lol
I called my insurance company today and they told me that the doctor needs to fill out a universal prescription form for the insurance to review. They will get back to me in 2 business days.
I hope they will cover it if it helps my son.
That really stinks about school. Just remember, the 504/IEP process takes x number of business days. So you want to start the process ASAP. If there are only 2 weeks left, then start if FIRST thing next year. He may not receive notification until even November! They really drag it out! Also log the days so you can call them on it if they are late!!
Did he really need to be suspended?? How old is he??
We have NOT started the patch YET, however, we are getting ready to. My son's prescribing doctor gave me a card for 40 FREE patches. I believe the company may have given them out for marketing purposes.
I would call the prescribing doc and ask if he has access to the card for 40 free patches, or call the company direct and ask about it. Sometimes these compnies will help families.
Just a thought!
My son also is doing wonderful on Daytrana. Thankfully so far insurance is covering it. arv99t what insurance do you have? we have untied health care. I am thinking for next year. Maybe we could get an insurance that will cover Daytrana. Have you tried calling the company to see if they have a patient assistance program? Sometimes a company will help out even if you have insurance if the med is not covered on your plan....it is worth a try anyhow.Maybe you guys can go halvsies on the med? That way it isn't too bad for either of you.
I know your pain, my son suffered trying to take adderall for 6 months, he is on Daytrana now and i love it. I did contact the company and as of yet, there is no help as far as the cost goes. They are working on it. I am a single mother and get no child support, this is a real issue for me. Please send Daytrana SHIRE an email to ask and complain. Maybe if more of us ban together with Shire the will see they have a good product and if they want our business the better lower the price. Good luck!So my son was on Daytrana for a glorious 10 days.... then due to insurance issues, I needed to temporarily switch him to Concerta. Its NOT WORKING. I'm going insane. I called his dad to tell him he needs to fork over the 160 bucks to buy his son the medication he needs. He agreed to it, but who knows when he will. I get paid friday though so I guess I'm going to just have to get it for him. He got suspended today from school... I HATE his school. Everything is "yes but..." "yes we know its not his fault BUT..." UGH I hung up on the principal today... probably not the best way to solve things but I was SOOOO angry at him. It IS NOT JACOB'S FAULT!! He can't control how he acts!! And guess what? During that 2 weeks on Daytrana... not a WORD from his school... not even a "wow he's doing good!" Only when his meds are messed up and he is "bad" do I hear from them. UGH I'm soooo mad. What do I do?? I'm getting the Daytrana, he should be fine now... but as we all know, it is not a permanant fix... what do I do about his STUPID SCHOOL???
Ugh. I'm so sorry. I hope that his dad will be responsible and pay for the Daytrana. I don't know what to say about the school--that just stinks.
[QUOTE=huntnmom]Its always a special day when they can be praised for something that is such a struggle for them. We are on the same path this week, my son got an excellant note 5 days in a row! He asked me if it meant that he was not "bad" anymore. That makes you wonder what the teacher and other kids are saying, doesn't it? Best of luck to you and your son on your journey through this.
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Awww!! congrats to him! Thats really sad isn't it? That our kids think they are "bad". My son tells me all the time that the other kids say he's "the bad kid" and they make fun of him when he gets in trouble. Makes me wanna go smack some kids around LOL JK
It only takes a couple of people to label a kid "bad" [even if a million are saying "good] for it to stick *sigh*I have this overwhelming urge to tell the moms around here to tell their kid to say, "I have a magic auntie 'way up north in Canada and she'll tell Santa Clause YOU were mean to me. She'll tell him to put reindeer poop in your stocking this year!"
I hope you all have sat through "over the hedge" and explained how the squirrel is special BECAUSE he's hyper
I just have to shake my head at the school system's stupidity.
Suspending a six-year old, for petesake. Now I understand he can't go around hitting people but WHO is the adult in that classroom?
And another kid who can't go on a trip. Hasn't it occurred to anyone that punishing a kid weeks/months after the offense is pointless? Heck, punishing an *adult* that much later and they wouldn't 'get it' either!
And the educators all shake their heads and ask why literacy rates are down.
Good grief.
I don't believe schools should put up with nonsense but these are *children* for heaven's sake and children get into mischief, mess up and make mistakes--isn't that what childhood is FOR?
Are they all supposed to act like identical cheerios from the same box?
You go get 'em parents!
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I'm so glad someone agrees with me!! I'm certainly not saying my son is an angel or didn't do something wrong, but sheesh tell me what good will it do to keep him away from school. Do they enjoy denying education to those who struggle??
Soooo I forked over the 160 bucks for his meds... he got a FANTASTIC report from school today! My finace said I should call the principal back and tell him where to go... lol probably not the best idea, but very tempting!
liveandlove39212.7146759259 liveandloveYaY for the young fella!
You might want to explain to the principal that according to all research on youngsters' behaviour that any "punishment" that doesn't take place with a few hours [preferably seconds/minutes] of the offense is pretty much useless.
And obviously, sending an ADHD kid home who struggles in school and would rather stay home to play video games and run around whooping is a an oxymoron
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Bethann,
No, I found out after the fact, and just because I happened to call the teacher for another reason. They returned my money, but that is not the point. It was the teacher and the ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL that made the decision together, so you would have thought that one of the two would have called. You can bet money that changes WILL BE MADE for next school year. I can't go through another year like this one.
Liveandlove, Great news on your son! Its always a special day when they can be praised for something that is such a struggle for them. We are on the same path this week, my son got an excellant note 5 days in a row! He asked me if it meant that he was not "bad" anymore. That makes you wonder what the teacher and other kids are saying, doesn't it? Best of luck to you and your son on your journey through this.
Not so good today... the school nurse called me saying she was told by the assistant principal to tell me he is sick and needs to go home. The nurse says he is not sick but just the tummy ache from Daytrana. The nurse's opinion was that he was having a bad day because of a substitute teacher for his class and the school didn't feel like "dealing with it" today!!! He had a bad night... Well he was fine at home actually, he did his homework fine, etc, but when it came to bedtime he just broke down crying saying he's bad and everyone hates him and he can't really do anything because he's bad. (oh yeah, they had him sit in the office from 11:15 to 3:30, they refused to send him back to class!!) Only 8 more school days left... I'm just sick though, I literally feel sick when I think about what he goes through in the day. [QUOTE=liveandlove]Not so good today... the school nurse called me saying she was told by the assistant principal to tell me he is sick and needs to go home. The nurse says he is not sick but just the tummy ache from Daytrana. The nurse's opinion was that he was having a bad day because of a substitute teacher for his class and the school didn't feel like "dealing with it" today!!! He had a bad night... Well he was fine at home actually, he did his homework fine, etc, but when it came to bedtime he just broke down crying saying he's bad and everyone hates him and he can't really do anything because he's bad. (oh yeah, they had him sit in the office from 11:15 to 3:30, they refused to send him back to class!!) Only 8 more school days left... I'm just sick though, I literally feel sick when I think about what he goes through in the day. [/QUOTE]This brought tears to my eyes. I remember those days in school.
All I can tell you is that you have more information and understanding than was known for me in those days so he's that much farther ahead.
It's so painful to watch people we love hurting when we KNOW there's a better way. But the 'systems' are too arrogant, blind and sometimes underfunded to use them.
My mom fought with the school quite a number of times. The school didn't fix anything but this is the part I want you to remember...
I knew my mom fought. Didn't matter that she didn't win--it mattered that she CARED.
He'll remember that, too when he's older.
Poor little fella
And to you both
MetisRebel39216.8935763889
That is horrible that they did that to him! My son was sent to the office for behavior at recess by a monitor who labeled him and was just a sicko!
You really need to let this "school" know that you know what they did and that they are NOT providing an education in the office for the day.
They also need to be informed that they are damaging your son's self esteem as well as labeling him. ANd they need to know that the students are labeling him as well. They are setting him up to fail!!
Is he on an IEP? HOw is it going with the med issue? We tried the patch for several hours. It never kicked in so he took the concerta again. I don't want my son to be used as a test while the patch is still being perfected. The rash scares me.
Are you able to get any meds for your son? I went back and read your original post to get back up to speed with the subject. If you are still dealing with the ex husband and insurance stuff, maybe call the pediatrician for free samples or the pharmaceutical company direct. I know they offer assistance in matters.
I am so upset about this!!
MetisRebel is right about what she said in regards to knowing her mom fought the school in her defense!
My son knows that we do too, and he so loves me for it. We are very close and know that that stuff has brought us even closer. My son will be 10 in June.
We have been fighting for him since First grade when the lunch lady BS started. She is no longer there because the Fifth graders started a petition to get rid of her and it worked!! That is how nasty she was to the children!
School is SO much better, but when we need to, we go over or notes are sent!
Fight for your son, he will remember it and it will very much matter to him!!
Good modelling also helps a kid learn to stick up for themselves in work environments and with difficult people later in life.
My mom went to bat against my grade 2 teacher because she bashed my head into a wall. She did this to kids all the time [it was legal back then--can you believe it?] I came home and absolutely refused to go back to school and wouldn't stop crying. When my Dad came home, he got the story out of me.
She picked on me with extra assignments and hard marking all year but she NEVER laid a glove on me again. The other kids still got pounded
My mom did it a bunch of times--bless her--even though back then they didn't know that girls could have ADHD. She just knew that I wasn't THAT horrid!
Kids remember that stuff...
How horrible! Those poor children back then. I wonder how they are as parents?
What state were you living in with this going on? I never remember that happening here in Massachusettes. I grew up in the 70's.
The sad thing is it still occurs in some states in some schools by some teachers!
[QUOTE=BETHANN]How horrible! Those poor children back then. I wonder how they are as parents?
What state were you living in with this going on? I never remember that happening here in Massachusettes. I grew up in the 70's.
The sad thing is it still occurs in some states in some schools by some teachers!
[/QUOTE]I was in Canada outside Toronto. Toronto a few years after that banned corporal punishment. However the town I was in--it was still legal until until 1975 and I think another 10 years or so AFTER THAT, if the parent signed a waiver.
Barbaric, bloody barbaric!
I have read posts from parents in regards to parents still signing waivers to paddle their children, STILL in 2007. I can't fathem (sp??) anyone wanting a stranger to hit their child! Like that is going to "help" the child?!
[QUOTE=MetisRebel] [QUOTE=BETHANN]How horrible! Those poor children back then. I wonder how they are as parents?
What state were you living in with this going on? I never remember that happening here in Massachusettes. I grew up in the 70's.
The sad thing is it still occurs in some states in some schools by some teachers!
[/QUOTE]I was in Canada outside Toronto. Toronto a few years after that banned corporal punishment. However the town I was in--it was still legal until until 1975 and I think another 10 years or so AFTER THAT, if the parent signed a waiver.
Barbaric, bloody barbaric!
Some people wind up being good parents regardless of that. After a period of sorting myself out and seeing the rest of the world was not that way [and I suspect that's most people who come from that position] I was a great believer in NOT hitting. I have patience for parents who do [if they're trying not to do damage] because we are all humans, have our moments and DO respond sometimes to our conditioning.
I just think that if at all possible--it's the last line. And I think it's patently oxymoronic to hit a kid "for hitting" someone else. Real mixed message!
My sister who went through that system is now a daycare manager and she can think of more creative ways to get a kid to do [or not do] something than anyone I've ever known
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I have read posts from parents in regards to parents still signing waivers to paddle their children, STILL in 2007. I can't fathem (sp??) anyone wanting a stranger to hit their child! Like that is going to "help" the child?!
[/QUOTE]I am SO with you on this one. It's barbaric. Can't we be more creative that THAT in this day and age?
Frankly, someone has to be the adult in the relationship. And it ain't gonna be the kid
Now that sounds awesome! I hope the others turned out the way your sister did, compassionate!
good for her!
