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Hi, my dear darling child has got it into his head that it will be funny to play me up tonight, he is refusing to go to and stay in his room, I have tried taking the door handels off, but he still gets out, I locked him out the house for about an hour (checked reguarly) untill it started getting too cold and wet, but still he will not go to bed, he is now sitting next to me, thinking this is all some sort of game, mind you he is not allowed to move as I have his arms, he has lost all his marbles tonight, it was working quite well untill tonight, but he has been off meds, for 1 day, and this is what I get,...has any one got any idea's on how to get this obnoxious little so and so to bed...oh he's reading this, still thinks its funny

Yea, give him 3mg of melatonin 30 min before bed, and he should become very sleepy.

If that does not work, the natural consequence for him refusing to go to bed is being tired the next day. Personally, I'd tuck him in bed, make sure all media does not work when he tries to turn it on, get the house locked up tight with those locks out of reach, go to bed, lock your bedroom door, and ignore him. I'm not sure what your son is like, but with mine I would also tell him that he is not allowed to turn on any lights.

Oh for sure no debating. If he cant "get you" he'll give up. Maybe not tonight, but if he wins, he wins. Do as ommas says, walk him to his room, close the door, if he comes out, "NO TALKING" by the hand, back to bed, all night if you have to, but no more fighting and no more talking. Nip this in the bud befor it coninues past tonight. Just keep putting himm back in there.

long shot

 

buy new sheets    not covers unless you can afford new covers

 

get him involved with his  sleeping ( nest  ) by letting him pick or choose the sheets.

keep bath and media time at least three hours before bed time

bring down the lights in the evening to just his room and a dim light in youre area

using hand gestures and silent nods   dont talk during actual bed time

ive always heard that saying nothing and keeping silent with dim light while making twenty trips back to bedroom , but if you speak   its like starting over

 

i know this doesnt sound like traditional story time before bed  . but with meds sometimes come sensitivity to stimulus   and over many years   this   "I made you get me game"  can lead to extreme aggressiveness at bed time as a normal part of the routine.

in my opinion  bed time no matter what should be seperate from romp time .

the only two ways i know are    to low stim     or to medicate  which should only be used spareingly from time to time  during cycles .

if you journal all tghe behaviors you can start to see the pattern that may indicate when to me and when to just be silently stern.

 

i work with teens in a locked in environment , other staff thought i was nuts when i just simply raised my hand   until they were so curious they had to come ask why my hand was in the air i didnt speak. i walked to thier room    keeping my hand in the air. when they approached me agian  i pointed to thier bed . they other staff  gave planned ignore as well.

 from then on when i walked on the unit after a month    . they would go to bed after holding my hand in the air for only two minutes.

anyone who continued to stay up got consequinced and well thats is a different story.

ive seen the NANNY  do this  on those parental education shows, thats where i got the idea it worked on my dd  nearly every time , so i thought i would try it there at the facility too.  it doesnt always work and the new kids really have to challenge it . street teens getting treated like five year olds  , but most have disorders similiar to those dicussed here.   i will always say manage the stimulus wether environmental or verbal  .  if the environment is same everynight quiet and safe and void of stimulus everyone will start to tire.   even the staff.

 we really have to keep on guard for getting tired   cause the kids know the silent game too. if they see a staff starting to tire they try all kinds of stuff on them.

i pretended to be asleep once   head down while sitting  and fake snoring. i could hear one moving around   the two then five. they tried to get the keys from a staff. then i thier exciment there i was i the center of the hall standing there like the jolly green giant  one hand in the air  and the other pointing to thier rooms . in thier dismay they actually threw the keys at me,

when the admistaraitors questioned me as to why i pretended to be asleep . i said because i knew they were going to try something . they were too quite.

all that went on and the other nineteen kids slept right through night.

 

i see it this way    when the bed time routine comes and it is always the same

it becomes so  safe  that they look forward to going to sleep  more than getting stimed. 

or you could just get a fan!

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