Isn’t this the Coaching Arena?

 

Heya gang:

Can we consider, the motley group we are--reallio trullio COACHING one another?

If we could put together a bit of a plan, maybe a round robin sort of thing,***we could coach each other. For those who can't get access to pro coaches this might be helpful.

Some ideas:


***Round Robin Example: Fred coaches Sally in pm once a week. Sally coaches Mary. Mary coaches John. John coaches Fred. Sharing--everyone gives and gets. Maybe non-adhd parents could coach parents too

One of the struggles with posting here is a million great ideas from everyone but in the coaching sense--it's overload for an ADHD'er sometimes.

Any more ideas? I think this is very, very important because it will give us all a sense of control in our own worlds, on our own time.

If anybody is willing to give it a go--I could post a working outline on how mentoring is done in agencies and then we could all go over it and re-work it to suit our needs.

Anybody up for it?
Yes, i wan tto try.   i am excited by the idea but saddened by my add hx:  things i tell a group i think are good, they nearly never do...lol. [QUOTE=henrymandel]Yes, i wan tto try.   i am excited by the idea but saddened by my add hx:  things i tell a group i think are good, they nearly never do...lol.[/QUOTE]

You don't have to be sad about ADHD--in fact, most of us are pretty excitable

What ya gotta do is figure out how to WORK with it--not against it. You'd be amazed at what you can do

It's also about learning henry. If we set up a process and instructions for coaching--you'll do just fine And you'll get coached back.

LET'S GET SOME COMMITTED [pardon the pun] folks on here. We CAN do it! If we get 6 or more names, I'll see if I can come up with a sorta coaching booklet for us to try based on the techniques that are out there..and y'all add input/ideas/techniques and we can even be our own research project on the best techniques for adults [which we can then post!]

THE LIST--quote and add name pls if you wanna try...
  • Metis Rebel
  • henrymandel



[QUOTE=MetisRebel] [QUOTE=henrymandel]Yes, i wan tto try.   i am excited by the idea but saddened by my add hx:  things i tell a group i think are good, they nearly never do...lol.[/QUOTE]

You don't have to be sad about ADHD--in fact, most of us are pretty excitable

What ya gotta do is figure out how to WORK with it--not against it. You'd be amazed at what you can do

It's also about learning henry. If we set up a process and instructions for coaching--you'll do just fine And you'll get coached back.

LET'S GET SOME COMMITTED [pardon the pun] folks on here. We CAN do it! If we get 6 or more names, I'll see if I can come up with a sorta coaching booklet for us to try based on the techniques that are out there..and y'all add input/ideas/techniques and we can even be our own research project on the best techniques for adults [which we can then post!]

THE LIST--quote and add name pls if you wanna try...
  • Metis Rebel
  • henrymandel
  • katastrophee

I am up for it!


[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=katastrophee][QUOTE=MetisRebel] [QUOTE=henrymandel]Yes, i wan tto try.   i am excited by the idea but saddened by my add hx:  things i tell a group i think are good, they nearly never do...lol.[/QUOTE]

You don't have to be sad about ADHD--in fact, most of us are pretty excitable

What ya gotta do is figure out how to WORK with it--not against it. You'd be amazed at what you can do

It's also about learning henry. If we set up a process and instructions for coaching--you'll do just fine And you'll get coached back.

LET'S GET SOME COMMITTED [pardon the pun] folks on here. We CAN do it! If we get 6 or more names, I'll see if I can come up with a sorta coaching booklet for us to try based on the techniques that are out there..and y'all add input/ideas/techniques and we can even be our own research project on the best techniques for adults [which we can then post!]

THE LIST--quote and add name pls if you wanna try...
  • Metis Rebel
  • henrymandel
  • katastrophee

I am up for it!


[/QUOTE] [/QUOTE]

Well, we're up to 3. If we can get four, even better. I would suggest that everyone COACH 45 mins per week and BE COACHED 45 mins.

That's a 1- 1/2 hour commitment.

Is that too high?
MetisRebel39399.401087963

gbfe

ommas39765.5518518519i want in, too.
"sad" & "excitable," flailing/falling/failing, too much time spent too out of control & too much time fed up with myself. i'm getting better but...that never lasts for long.

THE LIST--quote and add name pls if you wanna try...

  • Metis Rebel
  • henrymandel
  • katastrophee
  • ommas
  • annie



[QUOTE=ommas]

i want in

but i want  there to be some control on those members who   fill threads up with junk .


That's why we pair up and use private messaging ommas--focus on the person being coached when coaching--focus on fixing our own stuff with the coach we are using. So it doesn't get all scrambling, the coach and the coachee are different.

im all for this  site having   brainstorming and round robins. 

im excited

THE LIST--quote and add name pls if you wanna try...

  • Metis Rebel
  • henrymandel
  • katastrophee
  • ommas

[/QUOTE]MetisRebel39400.3968171296 [QUOTE=digi digi]i want in, too.
"sad" & "excitable," flailing/falling/failing, too much time spent too out of control & too much time fed up with myself. i'm getting better but...that never lasts for long.

THE LIST--quote and add name pls if you wanna try...

  • Metis Rebel
  • henrymandel
  • katastrophee
  • ommas
  • annie



[/QUOTE]

Okay, we have 5. Good start. How many of you are parents?


MetisRebel39400.3938310185

[QUOTE=MetisRebel]
Okay, we have 5. Good start. How many of you are parents?

Nope - but does having an ADHD cat count? 

Oh yeah, I also have an ADHD hubby which means I am kind of a parent....so is he, I guess.... 

I'll see if he wants to sign up as well.

[/QUOTE]

gbfe

ommas39765.5525231482i'm not a parent.

  Hello,

Im very new to site and I like it already.  Id be interested in some coaching ideas.  I am a teacher and work with kids who have LD-Im also a fairly recently diagnosed adhd woman.

Thanks

[QUOTE=ommas]

I HAVE 4 1/2  DD

 BUT SHE'S NOT ADHD.

i am  adhd-i male 40

i work with adhd juvinile delinquints though  i think that counts.

[/QUOTE]

I've seen your advice ommas--you definitely count as having good parental advice

[QUOTE=digi digi]i'm not a parent. [/QUOTE]

You don't have to be a parent to coach/be coached. Since the start is simple round-robin it doesn't matter. Later, it might.


[QUOTE=MetisRebel] [QUOTE=digi digi]i want in, too.
"sad" & "excitable," flailing/falling/failing, too much time spent too out of control & too much time fed up with myself. i'm getting better but...that never lasts for long.

THE LIST--quote and add name pls if you wanna try...

  • Metis Rebel
  • henrymandel
  • katastrophee
  • ommas
  • annie
I think we also have
  • mbracethe space
  • digidigi
I believe we have 7??? correct me if necessary or add or delete yourself from the list. I think we could start this week. On Wednesday our final list will be drawn up based on the names we have.



[/QUOTE]



Here's what I've come up with.

COACH JOB:
  1. When we are in our role as "coach" it's about our coachee--not our tasks. When we are being coached then it's our role to let the coach support US. Try to keep the roles straight. That's why you will be coaching ONE person, but being coached by another. We ADHD'ers confuse easily--let's try and keep to one role at a time
  2. You are not doing social work. Remember this [as some of us are in the field]. You are more accurately, mentoring. Remember that ADHD'ers can get off on tangents and we want to prevent that. It's our job to keep them on the playing field even if they'd rather play Nintendo
  3. Keep your messaging in pm to the point. I know it's nice to talk about dog shampoos but our new round-robin we're checking out is as much about us learning to coach responsibly as ADHD'ers as it is about us learning to get the things done, we want to get done as the coachees. In the beginning I'll put up a instructions to try to follow.
  4. Right now we will keep it very simple. At the end of the week I will tell WHY we did that exercise based on sound psychological principles I've discovered motivating very difficult people. You only have to suspend disbelief for one week that I might be right. Every week we can discuss whether it worked or not, or what might have worked better, publicly 
  5. The ultimate goal [if we don't get off track] is to create a methodology that WORKS. So we may have a few spills along the way. Unlike agencies that have to 'misinterpret' the data to get funding--we are FREE to experiment because the only thing we care about is whether it works for US or not--isn't that liberating?
  6. In the beginning we will round-robin [from our list] that way, if anything blows apart as happens in the lives of ADHD'ers  we can still continue. Every week put your name BACK on the list if you are planning to continue so we can set up the next week's list.


Okay if one role is 'coaches' what do we call the other role? Any ideas?

Remember--ADHD'ers have GREAT minds--let's use ours for ourselves for a while!



[/QUOTE]MetisRebel39404.4026388889

  The coaching /coachee roles sound good to me.  I may need to refer back to it

if

I forget the details.  Ive never been coached before but Ive learned some

strategies that work for me.  Im much better with acceptance of myself Clapand

try

to develop my strenghts and only give time to my weakness areas enough to get

by.  Ive spent way too much time focusing on those and only end up more and

more frustrated.  Im a mother of 2 small children and look forward to talking with everyone.

[QUOTE=mbracethespace]

  The coaching /coachee roles sound good to me.  I may need to refer back to it

if

I forget the details.  Ive never been coached before but Ive learned some

strategies that work for me.  Im much better with acceptance of myself Clapand

try

to develop my strenghts and only give time to my weakness areas enough to get

by.  Ive spent way too much time focusing on those and only end up more and

more frustrated.  Im a mother of 2 small children and look forward to talking with everyone.

[/QUOTE]

That's why I'm designing our "handbook" from our posts I just cut and paste them into a doc then I'll edit as we learn

I've spent a long time pondering this so we all succeed together Plus, if anything doesn't work--we can all be honest and SAY it because its FOR us--not for some agency somewhere or whatever.

Take out the profit margins and paycheques and voila! we are liberated to learn for ourselves the way WE learn! Obviously we all love our computers--good motivator to start with
This week I'll post our round Robin and next Sunday November 25. I'll post the first exercise. If newbies join after that--they start at exercise one. I'm keeping the exercises so if you're coaching I can resend them to you

On Monday November 26th, team rev your engines!!!!! MetisRebel39404.5069675926

gbfe

ommas39765.5533449074i like coachee.

i also thank you Metis Rebel.

i am lulu and digidigi. i don't know how i put myself on the list twice. so, deleting digidigi. howeer, i am NOT surprised.
  • Metis Rebel
  • henrymandel
  • katastrophee
  • ommas
  • annie
  • mbracethe space 


at work yesterday, a customer told another employee that as i am stupid as a peanut in the circus. i got very
/too/ unnecessarily upsetConfusedOuch. imagine, calling someone this.
i may be stating the following too early however, one of the issues i would like to work on is how i react or do not react to situations such as this.

lulu
[QUOTE=digi digi]i like coachee.

i also thank you Metis Rebel.

i am lulu and digidigi. i don't know how i put myself on the list twice. so, deleting digidigi. howeer, i am NOT surprised.
  • Metis Rebel
  • henrymandel
  • katastrophee
  • ommas
  • annie
  • mbracethe space
Okay now I'm confoozled

Is this the list?

  • Metis Rebel
  • henrymandel
  • katastrophee
  • ommas
  • annie
  • mbracethe space
  • lulu
?????



at work yesterday, a customer told another employee that as i am stupid as a peanut in the circus. i got very
/too/ unnecessarily upsetConfusedOuch. imagine, calling someone this.
i may be stating the following too early however, one of the issues i would like to work on is how i react or do not react to situations such as this.

Nobody has the right to speak to you like this for
any reason.  The simplest solution is to draw yourself up, look 'em straight in the eye and say, "I beg your PARDON??!! Would you like to repeat that please?" if you heard the comment.

If you did not overhear it--then look at the other employee sweetly and say, "Is there some overwhelming reason you felt the need to tell me this?"

90% of rudeness can be stopped with those two statements

And I bet that one hurt. It was cruel and unnecessary and whatever the problem was--didn't solve it *sigh*

lulu
[/QUOTE]delete old table [it won't let me leave the field blank]
MetisRebel39408.4205439815Okay now I'm confoozled

Is this the list?

  • Metis Rebel
  • henrymandel
  • katastrophee
  • ommas
  • annie
  • mbracethe space
  • lulu
?????

first--i am confoozed, too. digidigi, lulu and annie are all one person--me. i will go by annie, my real name. well not really my name...but annie i will be. sorry for the confusion.
this an updated list, unless of course someone has joined us.
  • Metis Rebel
  • henrymandel
  • katastrophee
  • ommas
  • annie
  • mbracethe space

[QUOTE=MetisRebel] [QUOTE=digi digi]i like coachee.

i also thank you Metis Rebel.

i am lulu and digidigi. i don't know how i put myself on the list twice. so, deleting digidigi. howeer, i am NOT surprised.
  • Metis Rebel
  • henrymandel
  • katastrophee
  • ommas
  • annie
  • mbracethe space
Okay now I'm confoozled

Is this the list?

  • Metis Rebel
  • henrymandel
  • katastrophee
  • ommas
  • annie
  • mbracethe space
  • lulu
?????

Nobody has the right to speak to you like this for any reason.  The simplest solution is to draw yourself up, look 'em straight in the eye and say, "I beg your PARDON??!! Would you like to repeat that please?" if you heard the comment.

If you did not overhear it--then look at the other employee sweetly and say, "Is there some overwhelming reason you felt the need to tell me this?"

90% of rudeness can be stopped with those two statements

And I bet that one hurt. It was cruel and unnecessary and whatever the problem was--didn't solve it *sigh*

lulu
[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]
second, thank you metis rebel for your wise words. i am constantly practicing remaining rational long enough to respond in such a constructive--maybe even instructive manner.

again, i am sorry for all my names. and that the round robin roundness will have to be reshaped..
anybody know if it is possible to change my user name
i checked out "edit profile" but did not see a place to make this change.
i think i may have to register again.
digi digi39406.8370949074 [QUOTE=digi digi] [QUOTE=MetisRebel] [QUOTE=digi digi]i like coachee.

i also thank you Metis Rebel.

i am lulu and digidigi. i don't know how i put myself on the list twice. so, deleting digidigi. howeer, i am NOT surprised.
  • Metis Rebel
  • henrymandel
  • katastrophee
  • ommas
  • annie
  • mbracethe space
Okay now I'm confoozled

Is this the list?

  • Metis Rebel
  • henrymandel
  • katastrophee
  • ommas
  • annie
  • mbracethe space
  • lulu
?????

Nobody has the right to speak to you like this for any reason.  The simplest solution is to draw yourself up, look 'em straight in the eye and say, "I beg your PARDON??!! Would you like to repeat that please?" if you heard the comment.

If you did not overhear it--then look at the other employee sweetly and say, "Is there some overwhelming reason you felt the need to tell me this?"

90% of rudeness can be stopped with those two statements

And I bet that one hurt. It was cruel and unnecessary and whatever the problem was--didn't solve it *sigh*

lulu
[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]
second, thank you metis rebel for your wise words. i am constantly practicing remaining rational long enough to respond in such a constructive--maybe even instructive manner.

again, i am sorry for all my names. and that the round robin roundness will have to be reshaped..
[/QUOTE]

Okay how many names on this list are *yours*? Just digi digi? Or more than that?
[QUOTE=ommas]

AvatarMetisRebel

 

 

thank you for starting this and taking the lead     

kodos

 

how about coach and      player or robins.

How about "ADVENTURERS!" and Coaches?

and i like the idea of round robin and a small  assignment  to get things going. so that more can join in as we go  .

is that what youre saying is   that  if new    robins join in  they can catch up .   but  any new round will be added once a week?

That's what I was thinking ommas.

If anyone want to join in

just copy and paste this list    and add your name to the bottom

  • Metis Rebel
  • henrymandel
  • katastrophee
  • ommas
  • annie
  • mbracethe space
  • digidigi
[/QUOTE]deleted old table
MetisRebel39408.4216898148[QUOTE=MetisRebel]And everyone on the list let me know you are still "IN"

I have confirmation from:
  1. Ommas [see, you got to be number one]
  2. MetisRebel
  3. Katastrophee

 

I am still in!

[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MetisRebel]
Okay how many names on this list are *yours*? Just digi digi? Or more than that?

I think she is saying that ANNIE, LULU and DIGI DIGI are all her.  She deleted Lulu and DigiDigi from the list and just left Annie.

So Lulu needs to be taken off the list and Roundtable schedule....


[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=katastrophee][QUOTE=MetisRebel]And everyone on the list let me know you are still "IN"

I have confirmation from:
  1. Ommas [see, you got to be number one]
  2. MetisRebel
  3. Katastrophee

       4. annie (only annie)


[/QUOTE] [/QUOTE]
i am still in, as well
[/QUOTE]

Okay how many names on this list are *yours*? Just digi digi? Or more than that?
[/QUOTE]

i am only annie -- i got to get rid of user name 'digi digi' but do not know how. lulu and digidigi are defunct.
[QUOTE=katastrophee]

[QUOTE=MetisRebel]
Okay how many names on this list are *yours*? Just digi digi? Or more than that?

I think she is saying that ANNIE, LULU and DIGI DIGI are all her.  She deleted Lulu and DigiDigi from the list and just left Annie.

So Lulu needs to be taken off the list and Roundtable schedule....


[/QUOTE]

[/QUOTE]

Yup, finally got it See revised list below
table update delete
MetisRebel39409.303900463 [QUOTE=digi digi][/QUOTE]

Okay how many names on this list are *yours*? Just digi digi? Or more than that?
[/QUOTE]

i am only annie -- i got to get rid of user name 'digi digi' but do not know how. lulu and digidigi are defunct.
[/QUOTE]

Okay but how is your coach going to pm you? under annie or under digidigi?
delete repeated msg
MetisRebel39408.4251851852 [QUOTE=MetisRebel]

EVERYONE PM THE PERSON YOU ARE COACHING PLEASE!!! then please send a 'hello' back to your coach.

This ensures that everyone knows how  to reach each other and that all systems are "go"


Could everyone make sure either their pms or their buddy lists are OPEN to the list? That way it's easier to keep track...


Thanks!

THREE DAYS TO OUR FIRST ADHD ADVENTURE!!!!

ARE YA READY????

REV UP THAT HYPERACTIVITY AND HYPERFOCUS!!!

YOU CAN DO IT!!!
[/QUOTE]

Okay but how is your coach going to pm you? under annie or under digidigi?
[/QUOTE]

i checked out my pm.
my coach will pm me under my user name which is digi digi (important:: there is a space between digi and digi)
i put everyone on my buddy list including myself. i then successfully pm'd  digi digi, so i know for a fact that digi digi  is the ticket, my ticket.
i will remain annie on our list.
i hope this is clear.  i get myself into situations such as this quite often in my life. then quite a few people, especially those at work, get fed up and not care to understand me.
thanks for your patience.


i pm'd MetisRebel and katastophee.
i am coaching these two, right?
i just want to be sure.
i am ready.
[QUOTE=digi digi]

Okay but how is your coach going to pm you? under annie or under digidigi?
[/QUOTE]

i checked out my pm.
my coach will pm me under my user name which is digi digi (important:: there is a space between digi and digi)
i put everyone on my buddy list including myself. i then successfully pm'd  digi digi, so i know for a fact that digi digi  is the ticket, my ticket.
i will remain annie on our list.

Okay--just remember each week to get hold of your coach and coachee so they're pm'ing the right name, okay Annie?

i hope this is clear.  i get myself into situations such as this quite often in my life. then quite a few people, especially those at work, get fed up and not care to understand me.
thanks for your patience.

We can all manage together as long as the lines of communication are open

[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=digi digi]i pm'd MetisRebel and katastophee.
i am coaching these two, right?
i just want to be sure.
i am ready.
[/QUOTE]

Ommas is coaching you

You are coaching Katastrophee.

It's round robin so each week you coach one person and one person coaches you. Each week it changes.

You'll get the hang of it
MetisRebel39409.2905555556

Name:

Confirmed

…is coaching

…is being coached by

MetisRebel

yes

Harrymandel

Mbracethe space

HenryMandel

yes

Katastrophee

MetisRebel

Katastrophee

yes

Ommas

HenryMandel

Ommas

yes

Annie

Katastrophee

Annie

yes

Mbracethespace

Ommas

Mbracethespace

 yes

MetisRebel

Annie

 

Clarification of the table: [hope it helps--if you're still stuck pm me]


MetisRebel is coaching Harry Mandel.

She is being coached BY mbracethespace

 

HenryMandel is coaching Mbracethe space

He is being coached by MetisRebel

 

Katastrophee is coaching Ommas

She is being coached by MetisRebel

 

Ommas is coaching Annie [digi digi]

He is being coached by HenryMandel

 

Annie [digi digi] is coaching mbracethespace

She is being coached by Ommas

 

Mbracethe space is coaching MetisRebel

She is being coached by Annie [digi digi]

 


MetisRebel39410.333287037the following sentence was in the auto email sent to me of this new post.
    "If I do not hear from mbracethespace by Friday late night then I will switch it a bit to ensure no one gets left behind…"

however, i cannot find this in the actual post on our adhd message board--only on the post that was emailed to me. i am having difficultly finding the posts, which have emailed to me, on our message board.

ALSO, mts pm'd me today.


[QUOTE=digi digi]the following sentence was in the auto email sent to me of this new post.
    "If I do not hear from mbracethespace by Friday late night then I will switch it a bit to ensure no one gets left behind…"

however, i cannot find this in the actual post on our adhd message board--only on the post that was emailed to me. i am having difficultly finding the posts, which have emailed to me, on our message board.

ALSO, mts pm'd me today.


[/QUOTE]

Yes embrace is confirmed.

I deleted posts with old tables so there'd be less confusion. So no, you didn't lose them

Coach instructions are in RED

Coachee adventures are in BLUE

 

Just to let you know the first series of exercises is in a six-week increment to completion. There is method to my madness and you’re welcome to ask any questions about the reason why we’re doing the exercises we’re doing in the order we’re doing them in. Comments and observations are ALWAYS welcome.

************************************

 

ADHD Adventure  #1

[Monday November 26 –Sunday December 1st… 7 day exercise]

 

Choosing your first adventure….

 

Do not choose a negative such as ‘I want to stop fidgeting’. Pick a positive—what do you want to accomplish? What simple task could improve the quality of your life if you did it every day?

 

For now, we are not dealing with parenting struggles—we will specify coaches with expertise and experience for those struggles, later.

 

Do not do something that someone else expects such as cleaning the bathroom because it bugs your spouse. Choose something for yourself.

 

Cut and paste the following list into a pm to your coach.

Just replace what’s there and write your own list. Follow the instructions. Your coach will let you know if you’ve done the exercise correctly. If any coaches are in doubt then either post or pm me K?

 

1.      Choose a task that at some point in your life you used to do every day but lately have not. This can be as simple as combing your hair every day or mopping the kitchen floor. Eg: Buy milk

2.      Break your daily task down into mini tasks: EG:

                                        1st.              Get dressed [you aren’t going out in our pajamas, are you?]

                                       2nd.              Brush teeth

                                        3rd.              Have shower

                                        4th.              Put on shoes

                                        5th.              Find the  money

                                        6th.              Walk to milk store

                                        7th.              Buy the milk

                                        8th.              Walk home [some days, remembering where you live is an accomplishment in itself]

                                        9th.        Pm your coach at the end of the day whether you did your full task or not. Check off how far you DID get on your mini task list. Every day.

 

 

Point of exercise:

·        Even simple tasks are the result many actions.

·        Learning to break this down will help with other, more complex tasks and deadlines later.

·        We’re working towards a brighter future. [or at least encouraging the mice to find new homes] including how to plan concrete tasks towards a goal.

 

 

*************************************

COACHES:

1)      Keep track if the task is accomplished.

 

2)      If the person does MORE that’s great but if they haven’t pm’ed by the following day—ASK if they did it. [thus the rewards column!]

 

3)      It is at your discretion if you consider the task completed based on THEIR list of the breakdown. Was the most important part completed? You might even want to ask them if your coachee considers the task pretty much completed.

 

4)     Remember that the goal is not perfection even if your coachee doesn’t see imperfection as success. The goal is task maintenance and motivation.

 

If your coachee accomplished their task, here is what you send:

Day 1: one Smiley

Day 2: two Smilies

Day 3: three smilies

Day 4: three  smilies and a clapper

Day 5: three smilies and two clappers

Day 6: three smilies and three clappers

Day 7: a star

 

Here’s a table you can cut and paste back and forth [ctrl C then CTRL V] in your emails and what it would like if they did the task every day.

Monday

Tuesday

Wednesday

Thursday

Friday

Saturday

Sunday

 

 

 

 


 



 

 

 

Do not get lost in WHY the person did not complete. It’s irrelevant. They have lots of other exercises later to work out barriers. Your job is to encourage them to get back on the playing field ASAP—not to create a perfect play.

 

After any three smilies comes a clapper. After 4 smilies comes 2 clappers etc.

If they did the task 4 times or more that week IT IS A SUCCESS. MOTIVATE! MOTIVATE! MOTIVATE!!!!

 

Your job as a coach is to motivate working towards the goal. Success is good but you can’t always coach a winning game. What you can coach is players who play their best game and support them to try harder next time so they can eventually win a game.

 

If you have any general coaching questions, not pertaining to your coachee—POST. Someone else may need the same answer. If you have a question about how to assist your particular coachee—pm me.

 

At the end of the week all coaches send me your adher’s results in smilies/clappers/stars. 

 

We will post our results without names unless we all agree to put up the full table

 

Next Sunday—let me know how you all viewed the experience and what went well and what we could improve.

 

LET’S SEE HOW MANY SMILIES CLAPPERS AND STARS WE CAN GET TOGETHER —

GO TEAM GO!!!

 

 

MetisRebel39411.3905555556COOL PROGRAM:

I found this cool little program FREE from a scifi writer and computer programmer who I've got programs from before. There's never any spy/malware in his stuff.

It sits in your computer's system tray and can be networked to all your computers [work and home]

What I like about it is that it will continue to nag me on "sleep" mode to do a job. And you can change the wav file alarm to anything you want. { mine sings, "i feel good!" by james brown}

It takes a bit of getting used to but I'm having success with it so you might want to try it out.

Anyway, for those of you with time struggles you might want to check it out...

REMIND ME PLEASE SOFTWARE



HOW IS EVERYONE MANAGING?

Any questions?

Does one have to read all that to join?

There's enough there for two or ten to read.

I learn in short, blue, centered spurts.

[QUOTE=Davidornado]

Does one have to read all that to join?

There's enough there for two or ten to read.

I learn in short, blue, centered spurts.

[/QUOTE]

If you want to try--You can get on the list--just add your name to the latest list for next week.

Yes you have to read quite a bit because EVERYONE is coached while they coach someone else.

So you have to be able to read the coaching instructions as well as your exercise [exercise 1] and your coachee's exercise...so you can help them and they can help you I'm sure you're assigned coach for the week will be willing to email you all the pertinent instructions.

I'm sure your coach will be willing to write you in blue should it help
MetisRebel39414.3308912037

Wednesday, November 28, 2007 Coaching List [for Adventure II to be posted on Sunday December 1st]

Name:

Confirmed

…is coaching

…is being coached by

MetisRebel

yes

Katastrophee

Annie

HenryMandel

 

MetisRebel

Ommas

Ommas

 

HenryMandel

Katastrophee

Annie

 

Ommas

MetisRebel

Katastrophee

yes

Annie

HenryMandel

 

 

MetisRebel is coaching Katastrophee

She is being coached by Annie

 

Henry Mandel is coaching MetisRebel

He is being coached by Ommas

 

Ommas is coaching HenryMandel

He is being coached by Katastrophee

 

Annie is coaching Ommas

She is being coached by MetisRebel

 

Katastrophee is coaching Annie

She is being coached by HenryMandel

MetisRebel39414.4368171296 Is everyone doing okay? I had to change the coaching list a bit so everyone was both coach and adventurer/coachee I think we're good now

GO TEAM GO!!!
MetisRebel39414.3296875[QUOTE=MetisRebel]

If you want on next week's list add your name:
  • Katastrophee
[/QUOTE]

Yup, things are good so far!  Thanks for asking!

[QUOTE=katastrophee]

Yup, things are good so far!  Thanks for asking!

[/QUOTE]

Sorry I thought we lost ya!

[QUOTE=MetisRebel] Sorry I thought we lost ya!
[/QUOTE]

Me?  Goodness gracious no....  I'm here for the long haul! 

[QUOTE=MetisRebel] [QUOTE=Davidornado]

Does one have to read all that to join?

There's enough there for two or ten to read.

I learn in short, blue, centered spurts.

[/QUOTE]

If you want to try--You can get on the list--just add your name to the latest list for next week.

Yes you have to read quite a bit because EVERYONE is coached while they coach someone else.

So you have to be able to read the coaching instructions as well as your exercise [exercise 1] and your coachee's exercise...so you can help them and they can help you I'm sure you're assigned coach for the week will be willing to email you all the pertinent instructions.

I'm sure your coach will be willing to write you in blue should it help
[/QUOTE]

Blue helps, yes!

But, I'll wait for now.

I don't think I can read all that.

Thanks,

D

[QUOTE=katastrophee]

[QUOTE=MetisRebel] Sorry I thought we lost ya!
[/QUOTE]

Me?  Goodness gracious no....  I'm here for the long haul! 

[/QUOTE]
YAY
[QUOTE=Davidornado][QUOTE=MetisRebel] [QUOTE=Davidornado]

Does one have to read all that to join?

There's enough there for two or ten to read.

I learn in short, blue, centered spurts.

[/QUOTE]

If you want to try--You can get on the list--just add your name to the latest list for next week.

Yes you have to read quite a bit because EVERYONE is coached while they coach someone else.

So you have to be able to read the coaching instructions as well as your exercise [exercise 1] and your coachee's exercise...so you can help them and they can help you I'm sure you're assigned coach for the week will be willing to email you all the pertinent instructions.

I'm sure your coach will be willing to write you in blue should it help
[/QUOTE]

Blue helps, yes!

But, I'll wait for now.

I don't think I can read all that.

Thanks,

D

Would it help for you if I broke it down into smaller bites a bit at a time--then you can join us later?

[/QUOTE]MetisRebel39415.3916666667

david.  i am doing the regular thing.  we are in our first week -- things will evolve. 

i offer to coach you in a free form style not requiring that reading.  write or call if you wish to start n c how it goes.  this is not part of the round robin.

henry 808 245 3604  7am to 6pm hawaii time only pls.

gbfe

ommas39765.5549421296 I could. We could be TEAM "A" and there could be a "team B". There has to be enough people for a team though.

And yes, David has an excellent point which is why I offered to break it down for him because he didn't have all last week to email or get one msg at a time like our "first team" did  so it must look terribly overwhelming.

I'm wondering if we're okay with re-grouping only every six weeks at this point? Because the work load's a bit overwhelming if I have to go back to square one with people each time someone joins...

I actually did a whole psych building/step ladder for six weeks for maximum gain

It's less work if we are team A--the next 6 folks team B--that sort of thing.


MetisRebel39415.6602314815

Tell ya what,

I'll read it somehow,

and get back to you.

In the meantime, don't let me interrupt what you have going.

Put me on a B team when it starts.

Its not like I'm in a crisis after all these years.

I've learned to cope & compensate enough to survive.

Or, if you can summarize, or link me the summary statement...

OKAY GANG

I've HIT AN ICEPATCH IN THE ROAD--a big one.

My OS has to be replaced on my computer. Am looking forward to learning linux but that means also that I no longer have my speed stuff like bookmarks and everyone's name in my pm saved files etc.

I DO still the exercises etc. So we should be able to stay on target.

But I DO apologize in advance if anyone sent a msg or posted or something and I missed it.

So I'm not ignoring you or whatever [or others on the board if I miss something.]

Just give me some time, folks I'm on a learning curve.

The good news is that in a few months--when I've learned enough--a whole lot of neato doors could open up.

Welcome to the world of penguins instead of windows


[QUOTE=Davidornado]

Tell ya what,

I'll read it somehow,

and get back to you.

In the meantime, don't let me interrupt what you have going.

Put me on a B team when it starts.

Its not like I'm in a crisis after all these years.

I've learned to cope & compensate enough to survive.

Or, if you can summarize, or link me the summary statement...

[/QUOTE]

Let's get a B team going. We need 6 for a team in case  a few drop out [a not uncommon ADHD situation]. If not David, in 5 1/2 more weeks we WILL include you for sure and assign you a coach and coachee

Summary statement:
We rotate coaches weekly.
Everyone coaches everyone else and everyone GETS coached.
Right now, we have a series of skill building exercises
[each one builds on the last skill learned] for 6 weeks. 
Everyone can get support for whatever tasks they wish to accomplish leading to
the ability to organize for themselves with a bit of support when necessary

Also, the coaches will increase their coaching skills through practise.

At that time, the group can decide what worked, what didn't and we can revamp the exercises for greater efficiency. So the B-team gets the results of the best parts of the experiment


[QUOTE=ommas]

well i do see a point to what Davidornado
 is saying.

Can we start new rounds in a new post thread?

[/QUOTE]

Would love to but right now I can barely maneover as my O/S is now only a dvd.

Until I get this straightened out--I can barely get around this site at all

Unless we have linux wizards available on here--this IS gonna take a while but I'm trying to keep up as best I can
[QUOTE=MetisRebel]

Wednesday, November 28, 2007 Coaching List [for Adventure II to be posted on Sunday December 1st]

Name:

Confirmed

…is coaching

…is being coached by

MetisRebel

yes

Katastrophee

Annie

HenryMandel

 

MetisRebel

Ommas

Ommas

 

HenryMandel

Katastrophee

Annie

 yes

Ommas

MetisRebel

Katastrophee

yes

Annie

HenryMandel

 

 

MetisRebel is coaching Katastrophee

She is being coached by Annie

 

Henry Mandel is coaching MetisRebel

He is being coached by Ommas

 

Ommas is coaching HenryMandel

He is being coached by Katastrophee

 

Annie is coaching Ommas

She is being coached by MetisRebel

 

Katastrophee is coaching Annie

She is being coached by HenryMandel

[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=katastrophee][QUOTE=MetisRebel]

If you want on next week's list add your name:
  • Katastrophee
  • annie
[/QUOTE] [/QUOTE]I've seen some new folks around asking for coaches. For TEAM B We have:

  • Davidornado
  • IF YOU WISH TO JOIN TEAM B ADD YOUR NAME HERE

It will  take me at least a week to sort out my major computer hassles. Anytime after that, that there are 6 on the coach list--we can start another thread for Team B.




OKAY GANG:

I'M GOING TO POST THIS WEEK'S ADVENTURE AND ASSUME FOR THE MOMENT THAT EVERYONE ABOVE IS "IN"

IF YOU SEND YOUR TASK LIST TO YOUR COACH AND S/HE DOESN'T REPLY BY MONDAY NIGHT--I WILL SWITCH YOU AROUND



ADHD ADVENTURE #2
Sunday December 1st, 2007


Pick one task that you would like to do weekly. This time—it should be a task that you’ve generally struggled doing weekly even though you know it improve the quality of your life if you did. Again—this is about YOUR needs, not your family or friends’ expectations.

Again, break it down.
EG:
TASK: Grocery shopping

BREAKDOWN:
  • Look around the house, make list
  • Eat sandwich to avoid overshopping
  • Find a quarter
  • Find car keys
  • Drive to store
  • Get shopping cart [thus the quarter!]
  • Get what’s on the list
  • Put the cart back
  • Take groceries home
  • Put groceries away
  • Have nice cup of tea and eat the fresh cookies [after all, what’s the point without enjoying the groceries?] If you can, find a way to reward yourself here for doing a big task.

Now-- keep up last week’s task as much as you can.

COACHES FOR THIS WEEK’S ADVENTURE:

  1.  If your adventurer/coachee does most of their list on their new task they can have three smilies/three clappers and if the main job gets done—their star. Designate smilies, clappers and stars during the week as you see fit.
  2. Keep in mind it's the MAIN TASK that must get done. Smaller, less important tasks may be let go along the way as long as the main task is accomplished.
  3. IF your coachee/adventurer can also manage to keep up last week's task for more than 4 days ADD A STAR
  4. If they keep up last week's task for 6-7 days ADD TWO STARS.
I strongly suggest, adventurers that you get computer program daytimers. It will help a great deal to have reminders for both tasks.




Hi there,

I would like to coach/be coached. I have some ideas after hiring two coaches of my own (they even overlapped for a while)

Please let me know if I have to wait for round c

gbfe

ommas39765.5555902778

Ok.

So where do we coach? get coached?

When do we coach? get coached?

How often do we coach? get coached?

gbfe

ommas39765.5559953704

Are we still doing Assignment 2 this week??

I haven't heard from anybody. 

I'm confused.... (doesn't take much!!)

gbfe

!

ommas39765.5562731481 OKAY FELLOW ADVENTURERS

I HAVE MY FILES BACK YAYA!!!!

Now. Since so many got lost in the process here's what I suggest...

I suggest that we start Adventure #2 AGAIN. Those of you who did it--great, twice won't hurt you

GROUP A who did Adventure #1

Please confirm HERE:
  • MetisRebel
  • Ommas
  • Annie [digi digi]
___________________________

Now, I would really like to get the results from Group A before I get into Group B. That way we can see what worked and what didn't to improve the program for Group B.

If you folks think that we should just soldier onwards and worry about results later--let me know. I'm well aware of how little concrete help is available for some folks.

My preference however is to fine-tune as we go and group A are our beta-testing group

Group B hang onto your jockeys and we'll get ya all signed up in a few weeks. Okay? You will need 6+ in your group to do a round-robin coach.
MetisRebel39427.3738425926 [QUOTE=jy5512]

Hi there,

I would like to coach/be coached. I have some ideas after hiring two coaches of my own (they even overlapped for a while)

Please let me know if I have to wait for round c

[/QUOTE]

You can get into group B, no prob.

The exercises thus far are designed to handle 6-12 people at a time.

I'd be interested to know what you got from the coach experience and why you would have 2 at a time?

Hi MetisRebel,

I had a couple of reasons, one coach shut down for vacation for about 6 weeks. That one was working on an overall approach to organizing home and work. The other I hired because of a job crisis at work. It was great help - I walked out of my job with a great severance package as a result, and did not lose my cool during the tense weeks ahead of my final day.

[QUOTE=jy5512]

Hi MetisRebel,

I had a couple of reasons, one coach shut down for vacation for about 6 weeks. That one was working on an overall approach to organizing home and work. The other I hired because of a job crisis at work. It was great help - I walked out of my job with a great severance package as a result, and did not lose my cool during the tense weeks ahead of my final day.

[/QUOTE]

That is so excellent!

Too often we don't cope well with change or we know we must make a decision that's right but we don't have the skill on how to do it in our own best interest. Nor the supports in place.

You are in Canuckland I see. Getting help here for Adult ADHD under OHIP right now is a horror. As far as I can tell--there are very few places dealing with presently. As funding in Ontario tends to be "flavour-of-the-month" social services--we're not the flavour right now, unfortunately for us.

In social service terms what I'm attempting here is a form of peer support group. Group-groups are difficult for adhd'ers because of the distraction factor so the work is individual with a peer coach.

I believe that people learn in groups more efficiently and that the supports built in groups can be maintained long past the group dates.

I set up an exercise for the group based on a series of levels designed to create skills that will help get tasks done. These tasks are designed in a step system leading to particular, larger goals. Each person chooses their own actual tasks. This also includes their ability improve their coaching skills. So far I have designed a 6 week "starter program" and a 4 week follow up program. Motivation and permanent self-reliance are key points.

Contrary to popular opinion, I don't believe self-reliance is singular. I believe much of it is based in peer support.  I believe it's more about knowing when you're floundering, getting support and giving it to jump the hurdle.

My function is co-ordination. I too am coaching and being coached. I  make sure everyone gets hooked up and has their exercises. And I am trying to track results so we can improve the methodology.

So this may be quite a different experience for you
OKAY GROUP A--To cut down confusion I started a new thread for our own exercises and round robins.

It is:

HERE:

http://www.adhdnews.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29746& PN=1&TPN=1

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