School and anger issues

Tennex is SUPPOSED to help with impulsivity and we have seen some improvement.  However, although I can't quite say it definitively yet, it initially seems that he may be a bit more sensitive (whiney, easily upset) on it.  Not sure though.

Regarding the 40mgs; we are meeting with the doc tomorrow and will enquire about the dosage (thanks for the tip). 

I tell ya, if we could just get the temper thing under control half the battle would be done.  I think I could deal with an LD or two over the outburst at school.  We are literally on a first name basis with the vice principal...and guidance counselor...and in-school suspension teacher....and janitor........

Metis, you are correct; there have been improvements and those accomplishments we need to recognize.  To be honest, my wife takes it much harder than me as she is the one that typically gets the call from the school. And unfortunately, his issues are more at school then at home.  We are pretty structured at home out of the necessity to keep things moving (homework, sport dejour, dinner, bed time routine, etc). 

It will all work out and believe me I am very thankful for what we have and know things could be so much worse.  Our problems pale in comparison to many unfortunate families. 

Hi my daughter had another outburst tonight, seems to happen at home more.  We are thinking maybe too much Straterra.  She seemed to do real good on the 18mg's, but you know how they up in 3 day increments. Could the 25mg's be too much?  she seemed to not having any anger outbursts while on the lower dosages. The simple fact that the neighbor girl (her friend) had to go home made her have the completely out of hand outburst.  She busted her fist in the carpet, screamed, "why can't she stay". She was yelling at me one moment and calling me back the next moment saying, "mommy". She is not neglected with time with me that is what gets me the most.  She seems to be starving to be busy with playing, riding bikes, and when she is told to come in she completely looses it.

What is her weight? 3 days is not enough, need 5-6 to ramp correctly. She should have started on 10 mgs.  

Her friend ran out of our house tonight, I think she was scared because Brittney just went OFF.  Only because it was time to wind down and send her home it was getting dark and we needed to start the routine for the evening. I put her on restriction for her behavior as her friend left. Explaining to her that this is NOT how we act because fun has to end.  As i have tried for years to explain calmly to her and such.  Tonight...I told my finacee I don't know what to do anymore.  I myself have moderate to severe anxiety, so when this happens with my daughter I have to take my xanax to get my heart rate to stop beating so hard. I have done a good job he says, keeping calm and trying to calm her but it doesn't seem to work. 

Give it time, it takes 6-8 weeks to work!

Wow..it is interesting to see how different docs approach meds differently.  After bombing out on Adderall we went straight to 25mg of Straterra.  That showed little improvement so we are now at 40mgs.  I think the doc said the highest he could go at my son's weight (somewhere around 50lbs) was 50mgs.  We are also doing 10mgs of Tennex twice a day.

On a side note we also give him vitamin E and O3 supplements.  Additionally (just started yesterday) he has gone to an all organic, non gluten, non dairy, etc etc etc diet to see if that helps. 

It's tough to keep in mind that this is like a big ole jigsaw puzzle that will take time to figure out. 

Hi my daughter had another outburst tonight, seems to happen at home more.  We are thinking maybe too much Straterra.  She seemed to do real good on the 18mg's, but you know how they up in 3 day increments. Could the 25mg's be too much?  she seemed to not having any anger outbursts while on the lower dosages. The simple fact that the neighbor girl (her friend) had to go home made her have the completely out of hand outburst.  She busted her fist in the carpet, screamed, "why can't she stay". She was yelling at me one moment and calling me back the next moment saying, "mommy". She is not neglected with time with me that is what gets me the most.  She seems to be starving to be busy with playing, riding bikes, and when she is told to come in she completely looses it.

What is her weight? 3 days is not enough, need 5-6 to ramp correctly. She should have started on 10 mgs.  

Her friend ran out of our house tonight, I think she was scared because Brittney just went OFF.  Only because it was time to wind down and send her home it was getting dark and we needed to start the routine for the evening. I put her on restriction for her behavior as her friend left. Explaining to her that this is NOT how we act because fun has to end.  As i have tried for years to explain calmly to her and such.  Tonight...I told my finacee I don't know what to do anymore.  I myself have moderate to severe anxiety, so when this happens with my daughter I have to take my xanax to get my heart rate to stop beating so hard. I have done a good job he says, keeping calm and trying to calm her but it doesn't seem to work. 

Give it time, it takes 6-8 weeks to work!

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yes, she started on 10 mg's for 3 days, then 18 3 days, then has been on 25's for the past few weeks.  I won't give up on it just yet.  Thanks for replying. I just hear horror stories on theses med's that it can make their anger outbursts worse.  I'll keep a check on it.

50 mg of Strattera for a 50 lb child is too high. My daughter is 82 pounds and will probably end up at 50. We are actually staying at 36 (I know its a little low) for starters, then P-doc says to add as tim, but I may ask to increase the Strattera first as she is doing well on it so far.

Other than that I agree, big jigsaw puzzle is a great analogy, every child is different and the pieces fit together differently. 

Wow..it is interesting to see how different docs approach meds differently.  After bombing out on Adderall we went straight to 25mg of Straterra.  That showed little improvement so we are now at 40mgs.  I think the doc said the highest he could go at my son's weight (somewhere around 50lbs) was 50mgs.  We are also doing 10mgs of Tennex twice a day.

On a side note we also give him vitamin E and O3 supplements.  Additionally (just started yesterday) he has gone to an all organic, non gluten, non dairy, etc etc etc diet to see if that helps. 

It's tough to keep in mind that this is like a big ole jigsaw puzzle that will take time to figure out. 

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What is tennex?

Hi my daughter had another outburst tonight, seems to happen at home more.  We are thinking maybe too much Straterra.  She seemed to do real good on the 18mg's, but you know how they up in 3 day increments. Could the 25mg's be too much?  she seemed to not having any anger outbursts while on the lower dosages. The simple fact that the neighbor girl (her friend) had to go home made her have the completely out of hand outburst.  She busted her fist in the carpet, screamed, "why can't she stay". She was yelling at me one moment and calling me back the next moment saying, "mommy". She is not neglected with time with me that is what gets me the most.  She seems to be starving to be busy with playing, riding bikes, and when she is told to come in she completely looses it.

What is her weight? 3 days is not enough, need 5-6 to ramp correctly. She should have started on 10 mgs.  

Her friend ran out of our house tonight, I think she was scared because Brittney just went OFF.  Only because it was time to wind down and send her home it was getting dark and we needed to start the routine for the evening. I put her on restriction for her behavior as her friend left. Explaining to her that this is NOT how we act because fun has to end.  As i have tried for years to explain calmly to her and such.  Tonight...I told my finacee I don't know what to do anymore.  I myself have moderate to severe anxiety, so when this happens with my daughter I have to take my xanax to get my heart rate to stop beating so hard. I have done a good job he says, keeping calm and trying to calm her but it doesn't seem to work. 

Give it time, it takes 6-8 weeks to work!

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yes, she started on 10 mg's for 3 days, then 18 3 days, then has been on 25's for the past few weeks.  I won't give up on it just yet.  Thanks for replying. I just hear horror stories on theses med's that it can make their anger outbursts worse.  I'll keep a check on it.

[/QUOTE] What is her weight? 3 days is not enough, need 5-6 to ramp correctly. She should have started on 10 mgs.

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Well, first day back from Thanksgiving vacation and we get a call from the school to come pick our son up b/c he cannot control his temper yet again.  This year started out with such promise and now in the last three weeks has really gone down the toilette.  We feel like we are back at square one (although the outburst are not as violent as they were last year).

It seems that he cannot handle any criticism w/o totally losing his cool.  He had a problem in the AM that the teacher was able to get under control and was apparently doing great for the rest of the day.  However, when he saw that he received a check mark form the morning (instead of a happy face) he lost it.

We are at wits end with him and he is only 6.  How can he be so happy one moment then totally peeved off the next is beyond me.

Sorry..I'm just frustrated and venting right now.  We have an appt with his doc on Wednesday and then the school next Monday.  I think they (the school) are going to push for an IEP as we discussed this in an earlier meeting but decided to put it off for a while.

Hi my daughter had another outburst tonight, seems to happen at home more.  We are thinking maybe too much Straterra.  She seemed to do real good on the 18mg's, but you know how they up in 3 day increments. Could the 25mg's be too much?  she seemed to not having any anger outbursts while on the lower dosages. The simple fact that the neighbor girl (her friend) had to go home made her have the completely out of hand outburst.  She busted her fist in the carpet, screamed, "why can't she stay". She was yelling at me one moment and calling me back the next moment saying, "mommy". She is not neglected with time with me that is what gets me the most.  She seems to be starving to be busy with playing, riding bikes, and when she is told to come in she completely looses it.

Her friend ran out of our house tonight, I think she was scared because Brittney just went OFF.  Only because it was time to wind down and send her home it was getting dark and we needed to start the routine for the evening. I put her on restriction for her behavior as her friend left. Explaining to her that this is NOT how we act because fun has to end.  As i have tried for years to explain calmly to her and such.  Tonight...I told my finacee I don't know what to do anymore.  I myself have moderate to severe anxiety, so when this happens with my daughter I have to take my xanax to get my heart rate to stop beating so hard. I have done a good job he says, keeping calm and trying to calm her but it doesn't seem to work. 

Well, first day back from Thanksgiving vacation and we get a call from the school to come pick our son up b/c he cannot control his temper yet again.  This year started out with such promise and now in the last three weeks has really gone down the toilette.  We feel like we are back at square one (although the outburst are not as violent as they were last year).

It seems that he cannot handle any criticism w/o totally losing his cool.  He had a problem in the AM that the teacher was able to get under control and was apparently doing great for the rest of the day.  However, when he saw that he received a check mark form the morning (instead of a happy face) he lost it.

We are at wits end with him and he is only 6.  How can he be so happy one moment then totally peeved off the next is beyond me.

It's easy. Really. I do it all the time It's just having some maturity, context and something to do with the frustration that's the hard part!

Sorry..I'm just frustrated and venting right now. 

Hey we're all here to be "vent-ers" and "vent-ees"

We have an appt with his doc on Wednesday and then the school next Monday.  I think they (the school) are going to push for an IEP as we discussed this in an earlier meeting but decided to put it off for a while.

Well I'm glad that's started. Sounds like the little fella could use some support and direction at school. How is he at home?