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My son is considered gifted, he reads and spells several grades above his age, he has all the signs that are listed for gifted kids, and he tested gifted.

But he has ADHD and depression and is bipolar. So, his intellect can't be tapped into unless he has a cocktail of meds to help with attention, temper, etc. It's very hard as a mom to know how to help him. I guess the key is to line up a support system whether it't thru the web or friends. Hang in there. I think we know a new definition of "hard" parenting.
My daughter has been in the gifted program since Kindergarten.  She's in 2nd grade now.  She was diagnosed with ADHD (and a seizure disorder) in Kindergarten.  She was put on Adderall 10 mg which has made a huge difference in her world.  My daughter's teacher told me that 75% of her 2nd grade class has ADHD (there are 18 kids in the class) and that a large percentage of gifted children also have learning disabilities.  I do want to do more research about gifted children with ADHD.  I did read somewhere that many gifted kids are diagnosed ADHD but arent, they just share the same qualities.   I am hoping more research will be done in this area.  If I find any good info, I'll pass it along. My son is also gifted, but hyperactive. The meds he takes is to control his impulsivity and other hyperactive problems. But he has no trouble paying attention.

Keep doing research on giftedness. Also, check with your school to see if they provide extra help for gifted kids.

Some schools don't care as much as other school systems. Our school system has a superintentent that cares very much for gifted kids and makes sure each of our schools have a full-time staff teacher/tutor that spends time with gifted child on a one-on-one basis. Although she focuses more on 3rd through 5th grades more than the younger classes, if she finds extra time in her day, she spends time with our son, who is in 2nd grade.

Also, our school system offers seminars each month for parents of gifted kids for a small cost. My wife has taken advantage of these and it's helped us learn about what "gifted/talented" means and how we can provide our kids with the best environment and motiviation to succeed.

Many gifted kids have a different learning style than most kids. Also, gifted kids often get bored in class, act up, and do things that are interesting but irritating to teachers. You will do good by keeping on top of school issues.

My wife also does tons of research on giftedness. Currently she's reading these books...

The Social and Emotional Lives of Gifted Kids: Understanding and Guiding Their Development by Tracy L. Cross, PH.D.

The Survival Guide for Parents of Gifted Kids: How to Understand, Live With, and Stick Up for Your Gifted Child by Sally Yahnke Walker

When Gifted Kids Don't Have All the Answers: How to Meet Their Social and Emotional Needs by Jim Delisle, PH.D. and Judy Galbraith, M.A.

Hope this helps some!

Great info!  I just love this site so much!

I wonder too if giftedness is not part of the mix my dd is coping with too.  Some schools have on the web their criteria and some info about their GT program.  Here's one with downloadable checklists:

http://blue1.emerson.u98.k12.me.us/gtprogram/stories/storyRe ader

 

If you look at the teacher checklist at the bottom there and some of the negatives, it looks very ADHDish to me.  All of those criteria are subjective and probably make more sense when faced with a herd of kids rather than just your own handful.

 

the "experts" say that the giftedness trait, like ADHD trait and the height trait, are highly hereditary.  so it's highly likely that those parents writing here about their gifted child are themselves gifted.   here's another site:  http://www.sengifted.org/articles_counseling/Webb_Misdiagnos isAndDualDiagnosisOfGiftedChildren.shtml

I have been doing a ton of research on ADD & came across an article about gifted children being misdiagnosed as having ADD.

My daughter hasn't had a formal diagnosis yet, we are waiting on an appointment with a neuropsychologist.

I don't believe that my daughter is gifted per se, it's just that while her teacher swears that she cannot focus or listen, she is still scoring in the 90th percentile of her class.  How can she be getting past all this distraction to be learning so well?  IF she is diagnosed with ADD, it is withOUT hyperactivity, she is more of a daydreamer.  Don't get me wrong, I am not getting my hopes up.  I was just wondering if anyone has found out later that they have a gifted child?

 

A good evaluation will help sort this out. If your daughter has similar scores in each of the subsets of the IQ test and they are all high, and the person doing the evaluation does not have any observations indicating ADHD, then you are looking at gifted.

If the subsets of the IQ test show some in the gifted range and some in the normal range (especially the timed parts) and the evaluator notes issues staying on task then you are probably looking at ADHD pulling down some of the scores, which should have been high as well. People should score similarly across the differnt subtests and large discrepancies indicate the posibility of a learning disorder, ADHD or processing problem.

My oldest is inattentive ADHD and her high inteligence helped her compensate for her poor attention and organization. We had years of the lack of organization comments from teachers. With diagnosis and meds, she says she can "hear" the teacher better and can now reach her full potential.

There are lots of similarities between the two- (able to function on little sleep, talkative, behaves as if driven by motor...)  But of course, it is not an either/or situation- she could be both.

If this is the 1st time you have heard these complaints from a teacher, and your daughter is doing ok in school and socially, I would wait and see.  If this is a pattern, other teachers have said the same thing, I would take her to the doctor.  Even if she is gifted, she may need help with attentional issues.

If she is really smart and has attentional issues, the behaviors will be worse if she isn't challenged.  I have a son (age 11) who has scored 99th%ile on every standardized test he has ever taken but still manages to get Cs on his report card.  He could read before his 3rd birthday- and could read EVERYTHING (the newspaper, Harry Potter...) by his 4th birthday- but still with his adhd- school is a challenge everyday.  Kindergarten was his worst year for behavior because it was so easy.  The wonderful K teacher suggested the he go to the reading resource teacher for enrichment while the rest of the class did phonics.  Once this change took place, his behavior improved greatly. 

I would first make sure she is challenged and I would also request an observation and report so that you could get another opinion.  If it comes back in agreement with the teacher, I would make an appointment with a child psych.  Good luck!

It sounds like she very well cold have ADHD, ( it is all ADHD, there is no such thing as ADD)

My DD has ADHD /Innattentive, NO hyperness, and is also gifted, so it is possible to have both. ALOT of kids with ADHD are highly gifted.

My son has a similar story.  It turns out he is extraordinarily gifted in some areas, above average in others.  He also has ADHD. 

You might try to get request a complete evaluation where they do the Wechsler &/or Stanford-Binet aptitude tests as well as something like the NEPSY for executive function, Asperger's evaluation, etc. 

How old is your daughter?  Our evaluator said that in the early years of school, the material is presented more than once, so if your child is really smart, it won't matter too much if s/he's daydreaming two out of three times something's said - s/he'll get it fine on one pass, so to speak.  But as the years progress, there is less repetition of material, and the inattentive child will miss the information altogether if s/he's daydreaming.

Good luck, adn let us know how it turns out.