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Wondering if the free treatment that they offered has helped or not. What did you find out?  I, too, have heard about the Drake Institute.  It sounds so good, but then I hear what you've been through and it makes me pause.  How many treatments has she had?  As an adult with adhd, I want to tell you that there is no cue for adhd.  You can learn to minimize the symptoms but one will always have adhd.

Hello all,

Im writing because I'm at a loss and I hit my frustration point.  Not with my child but the instutue we put our faith (and entire savings account) into and have found no results.  My 6 year old daughter is severe ADHD and we have tried EVERYTHING under the sun to try and get her better.  During my research, I stumbled upon the Drake Institute and it sounded like the next best thing since sliced bread!  They told me that her ADHD could be cured and she was the perfect candidate because of her age and she had only been on medication for 4 months prior to the start of her treatment there.  Well almost ,000 later, I am seeing extemely little to no results.  I sometimes wonder if the little results are from the meds. or us really focusing on keeping her in line and out of trouble at home.  When I question things at the Drake Ins. they seem to give me the total run around.  They also have "NFT" (Neuro feedback Techs.) administering her sessions.  These "NFT's"  look like a bunch of teenage kids running around with white doctor jackets and beat up tennis shoes.  Has ANYONE out there seen results if they have used the DRAKE?? My second question is does anyone know if it is an actual neuro pshych. that should be monitoring her neuro therapy sessions?  I have a meeting with the head doctor today to discuss my extreme unsatisfaction.  I feel we have been completely scammed and Madi has not been recieving the care she deserves. 

Well we are on session 30 and have seen 0 results.  We were concerned that we invested so much money and my daughter was actually getting worse.  Talking to other neuro feedback providers, they said it should have worked by session 6 or 7.  We had a meeting with the head doctor.  I must admit, he is very passionate about his work, so dedicated that he is not willing to give up on her.  He reviewed her brain mapping and EEG with other doctors and now have her on a different protocol.  He said if it takes another 30 sessions, he will do it to make her better!  and thats for FREE! Ten thousand dollars and no results, Im glad he was willing to work with us.  They could of just kicked us out the door and said o'well.  I will keep you posted of any new results.  WE lso looked into the drake and when i asked my pdoc who has sent several patients there with 0 results, we decided it was not for us. dorry about your experience there or lack there of. good luck

Thanks for responding.  It is amazing that I have not heard any positive feedback about this institute other than the stories they write on their web page.  For all we know, they could have very well made those stories up!! I have spoken with two additional Dr. who have also informed me that they have had patients or know of patients who have tried the DRAKE and had 0 results and were left at square one after all their treatments.  What breaks my heart is the families that are out there that cannot afford the -K by any means but are willing to do what ever it takes to make their child better.  To me that is what makes this whole thing unethical.  They know parents will do WHAT EVER it takes to make life easier for their children and they will spare no expense when they are in a time of desperation.  When they tell you that your child will be cured or they will no longer need medication or the chaos in your home as a result of the ADHD could come to the end, a parent would refinance their home or deplete their savings (as we did) to make it happen.  I would never trade in my daughter for one second, she is the best thing that has happen to my life.  In my eyes, she is the best kid in the world,  but until you live with a severe ADHD child, nobody understands how difficult and chaotic life is.  And leave it to the DRAKE to CAPITALIZE on this desperation.  We are still optimistic and we are not giving up until Madi gets better or life becomes easier for her.  We have now turned to a homeopathic Dr. and are hoping for the best.  What forum did you discuss the DRAKE Institute??

Any organization  that claims that their product or program is a cure for ADHD is a scam. Such advertising is a serious red flag. Thanks everyone for posting and educating those that come to this message board looking for real help and accurate information

Hi

I totally agree with you. I also had a very frustrating experience with them and lost about 00.00. I was so disappointed with them for cashing in on people's desperation. I only wish I had researched more before paying them... I have also posted here about my experience in one of the threads...

MM

 

Word of caution for every kind of place you would spend your money.  If it sounds too good to be true: it is.

ADHD at this time is NOT curable.  PERIOD.

As with any disorder that people are desperate to cure, there will be scam artists looking for ways to remove your savings from you.

Go with what is tried and true with ADHD: psychiatry, medication, behavioral therapy, etc.

If insurance won't pay for it--that is one clue that it is either not an accepted form of treatment for a disorder, or is NOT A MAINSTREAM one.  (Or the insurance companies are simply creeps, as in them completely not covering ANY TMJ treatments or therapies whatsoever).


In my experience, (I have a 13 yr. old boy with ADHD) medication combined with extra help at school, combined with extra empathy at home=best case scenario.  Good luck.

For anyone out there considering the DRAKE INSTITUTE.....DO NOT DO IT!! I beg you, it is a scam and a waste of money.  A lot of insurance companies are covering Neuro feedback but NONE of them will accept the Drake.  The Drake has it down to a science.  They do not allow you to pay session to session (because they know how unsuccessful they are), which forces you to give them anywhere from ,000-,000 up front, depending on the plan you pick.  When it doesn't work and you begin to question it, they then suggest that your child has a learning disability and want another 700 bucks to have them tested.  I knew my daughter DID NOT have a learning disability but the way they guilt you into testing and say things as "don't you want whats best for her....the neoro feedback will not work if there is an underlining disability."  After her being tested it came back with no signs of any disability and in fact she scored higher than high average on their chart for intellegence.  They then insisted that I take a second test with a brain doctor, to make sure it wasn't a neuro problem.  They were kind enough to give that to me at 1/2 price of 350 dollars!! Again, that doctor said she has no problems.  After continuing through more of the feedback sessions and seeing no results, I continued to question.  Now there answer is maybe it is emotional because after all her father did die when she was a little girl.  They told me to use a therapist that specialized in play therapy which was another 15 miles past their office.  Our commute was already 1 hour/1 way to their office.  To prove her ADHD was not emotional I began sessions with this therapist and still my daughter issues are exactly the same as when we entered their facility 4-5 months ago.  After our meeting with the head doctor, he never spoke to me again.  Didn't want anything to do with me.  In fact, during one of my meetings with our assigned counsler, I was confronted on posting the above emails on this website.  She said they found out I was on the web voicing my concerns about the Drake Instiute and told me the only one I would be hurting was my daughter!! She said that I  sounded frustrated on my blogs and your daughter can feel those feelings without you even saying anything.  That is why I haven't written in a while because I did not want to be approached or my daughter mistreated (parents are not allowed in the sessions with the children)while she was at the DRAKE.  I am Madi's #1 fan and I fight right beside her while she deals with this illness.  When it comes to my daughter's well being, I will ask questions and I do expect answers and if they were a legitamate business then they would have no problem with me asking questions over the web.  I finally started speaking with parents in the office and they too were very unhappy but felt at a loss because they already gave DRAKE their money.  Working for the County of Los Angeles, I have contacts with many and have discovered others that have attended the DRAKE and have recieved NO results.  It is almost comical when we all talk because we all have the same story with being guilted into paying for additional testing to rule out other disablities.  In the end, the doctor would not speak with me and the counsler told me "Sorry"  She had no suggestions for me on what to do next going into our meeting.  When I asked her about other places or treatments she told me that they were the "Nordstrom" of neuro feedback.  Well Nordstrom would have given me some of my $$ back seeing that I followed all their rules and was extremely unsatisfied with their product.  The doctor refused to compinsate me even a dollar so I could seek help somewhere else.  My mission is to not let other families go through the disappointment, heart ache, and financial devistation as our family did.  I beg you to pass this info along and know it is just not our family they have hurt.  If you do decide to go, PLEASE force them to give you names of success stories and ask to speak with them.  I would go as far as meeting the "success" children and see how they are now, that's if in fact they really exist...And if the DRAKE is monitoring this, since I know you do based on me being confronted about it, shame on you for not allowing us parents who live with this every waking moment of our lives to come to a place to vent and seek out help or opinions on how to make our children's lives easier.  This blog is from my personal experience with the DRAKE and the other parents I have come in contact with while at the DRAKE or work. 

[QUOTE=MetisRebel]I rarely get piffed on here luv, but I gotta tell ya, when I see some freakin' scamster pulling a stunt like that well.......






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I agree Metis because these scam artists are preying on vulnerable parents and playing games with the lives of our precious children in order to make a buck Your anger is more than justified and its reassuring to know that we have members like yourself who come here to help parent avoid making a wrong turn or a wrong choice because there are scam artists in this world who view parents who are searching for answers as potential cash cows Thanks for your input. It is truly valued and needed.

What really sent me off the looper was having that paid advert shoved in, underneath a legitimate complaint.

The audacity that they think we're all stupid enough to buy into a bot scam as a legitimate post makes my blood boil.

It 's the exact stigma that "they're stupid" we're always having to fight




The audacity that they think we're all stupid enough to buy into a bot scam as a legitimate post makes my blood boil.

The goal of these scam artists is to instill fear into parents by spewing lies about medication on their websites. They know that parents who desperately want to help their children want to beleive in a treatment or a cure that doesnt involve medication so now they have a receptive audience with whom they now scam thousands of dollars from Common sense dictates that if there was any program or treatment that fully mananged the symptoms of ADHD and/or cured it in the absence of medication, medication would not be an option. The mentality is that medicating is easy. There is nothing easy about it as its not a magic pill. Its one of many tools to help the child bring out their personal best. Unfortunately these scam artists try to use our message board as their personal billboard to sell their programs or products and thats why its important to alert parents and adults and teach them to recognize the red flags. Thanks for getting the message across MetisRebel as this is really a critical issue. [QUOTE=Luvmykids02]

The goal of these scam artists is to instill fear into parents by spewing lies about medication on their websites. They know that parents who desperately want to help their children want to beleive in a treatment or a cure that doesnt involve medication so now they have a receptive audience with whom they now scam thousands of dollars from

Aye, now there's the rub, eh matey? It's all about the MONEY. These people don't care. One weekend course and they think they're pros. No hard work, no years in the field listening to frustrated parents and children, hearing the horror stories and trying to work out solutions. No understanding of the social, political and economic factors that hold people back from getting the best help they can.

Some flashing lights, a bulls*t story and suddenly they're experts on the human mind.

Everyone deserves the opportunity for a paycheque based on their expertise and hard work.

Slick advertising and fancy websites do not constitute expertise OR hard work.


Common sense dictates that if there was any program or treatment that fully mananged the symptoms of ADHD and/or cured it in the absence of medication, medication would not be an option. The mentality is that medicating is easy. There is nothing easy about it as its not a magic pill.

Amen to that. My doc and I have come to the conclusion that any medication that will even alleviate only 30% of the problem at this point, [if there's not too many side effects] is a PLUS because this sucks worse than a hoover...

The psych [one of the best in North America no less!] flat out told me that until I HAD an attention span from medication, there was NO point in even getting counselling because I can't pay attention long enough to benefit. And some hack with no credentials wants to say that if I follow their method [like I could even follow directions to the building LOL] I will have miracle results?

Maybe when the program director walks on water, I'll buy it. Better yet, if he holds my hand and *I* walk on water--I'll pay double.

Its one of many tools to help the child bring out their personal best. Unfortunately these scam artists try to use our message board as their personal billboard to sell their programs or products and thats why its important to alert parents and adults and teach them to recognize the red flags. Thanks for getting the message across MetisRebel as this is really a critical issue.[/QUOTE]

I can't imagine how enraged the original poster feels having been scammed out of ,000 that could have been used to help this family just to have some cut and paste shilling negating her experience in the next post.

BLech Blech and triple Blech
[QUOTE=Mirnaee]I would have to disagree, the treatment is working for our son.  We had to put a lot of time and effort into it.  The point of the treatment was to use the neurofeedback to help him to control his impulses.  Therapy was included for him and the entire family to help learn other tools for continual improvement after treatment was finished.  He needed to learn how to give complete focus to the task at hand.  We as parents and a family as a whole had to be very involved in supporting the behavioral change.  The program designed for our  for our son was really helpful and gave our son a confident feeling like other "normal" kids have.  At the beginning we has so may issues that we wanted Drake to deal with- hyperactivity, focus, following instructions to name a few.  With the programs offered by Drake, our son developed tremendous improvement as he moved forward in his daily life.  Everything changes as times goes by.  There is no amount of words / money that can explain the feeling that we have as  parents as we walk out towards the close of our son's program at Drake.   [/QUOTE]

For ,000. You forgot THAT part.

For ,000 a parent can have pay for a behavioral psychologist and plenty of tutoring.For ,000 a parent can pay a "coach" to help for 5 years.For ,000 a parent can pay for every special computer program on the market that help increase the kid's academic skills.
How much did you get paid to cut and paste that?

It doesn't impress me in the least that your company is running feeds and bots so you can track anyone with negative things to say, grab an account with a 30 minute email then start posting cut and paste advertising retorts to those complain about being scammed.

Oh, by the way? Tell your company to use a proper grammar editor too. Large blocks of print are not considered "polite" on forums. Run on sentences are also taboo. As well, if the treatment was so great, you'd think the employees would know the different verb tenses.

Not all ADHD people are completely tech unknowledgeable, naive and unable to understand how "digging" , bot tracking and rss feeds work.

We may have ADHD but we're not stupid. Some of us are actually tech savvy too.

There's no excuse for conning desperate parents and children. Period.

MetisRebel39772.9073148148 [QUOTE=shonna]

For anyone out there considering the DRAKE INSTITUTE.....DO NOT DO IT!! I beg you, it is a scam and a waste of money. 

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My answer?

Demand your money back. If you don't get a refund then....




SUE THEM FOR FRAUD.

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[QUOTE=shonna]Well we are on session 30 and have seen 0 results.  We were concerned that we invested so much money and my daughter was actually getting worse.  Talking to other neuro feedback providers, they said it should have worked by session 6 or 7.  We had a meeting with the head doctor.  I must admit, he is very passionate about his work, so dedicated that he is not willing to give up on her.  He reviewed her brain mapping and EEG with other doctors and now have her on a different protocol.  He said if it takes another 30 sessions, he will do it to make her better!  and thats for FREE! Ten thousand dollars and no results, Im glad he was willing to work with us.  They could of just kicked us out the door and said o'well.  I will keep you posted of any new results.  [/QUOTE]

That's a major con job right there.

An EEG will NOT show the presence of ADHD. A spect scan will but they are rare and very expensive.

This is pure snake oil.
I went through the Drake Insittute website and there are so many mistruths and inaccuracies about ADHD, ADHD testing and ADHD medications that its beyond shameful. The public is totally mislead so that a program like this can drain people's wallets. When any organization knocks a proven form of treatment in order to substantiate their claims thats a major red flag and SCREAMS FRAUD. A program should be able to stand on their own merit. Parents, please don't buy into yet another scam.I was typing the big post above luv, when you posted 

[QUOTE=MetisRebel]I was typing the big post above luv, when you posted  [/QUOTE]

I rarely get piffed on here luv, but I gotta tell ya, when I see some freakin' scamster pulling a stunt like that well.......






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I would have to disagree, the treatment is working for our son.  We had to put a lot of time and effort into it.  The point of the treatment was to use the neurofeedback to help him to control his impulses.  Therapy was included for him and the entire family to help learn other tools for continual improvement after treatment was finished.  He needed to learn how to give complete focus to the task at hand.  We as parents and a family as a whole had to be very involved in supporting the behavioral change.  The program designed for our  for our son was really helpful and gave our son a confident feeling like other "normal" kids have.  At the beginning we has so may issues that we wanted Drake to deal with- hyperactivity, focus, following instructions to name a few.  With the programs offered by Drake, our son developed tremendous improvement as he moved forward in his daily life.  Everything changes as times goes by.  There is no amount of words / money that can explain the feeling that we have as  parents as we walk out towards the close of our son's program at Drake.  

My two bits: A little over a year ago, shortly after my 46th birthday, I went to the Drake Institute as a newly diagnosed ADDult knowing little about my new diagnosis but desparate to find something that would "treat" it so I could better focus at work and at home.

But the Drake Inst. doctor is a complete QUACK.

At my first appointment (I was foolish and stopped going after 2nd appt. - should have walked out at visit #1) he said he could "treat" me for ",000...(pause while he eyed my wardrobe from tie to toes)...,000."

How's that for a diagnosis? Twelve grand to play video games! I was creeped out. If someone has engaged an attorney for representation in a class action suit I will gladly participate. The Drake Institute's doors need to be closed for good.

Incidentally, just the other day, while my son was watching Cartoon Network, I saw a commercial for a new video game that looked just like video "treatment" offered by Drake. Kids could attach sensors and steer the car on the racecourse just using their thoughts! 

If there is anyone still considering the Drake Institute, they could buy this video game for probably a few hundred dollars or less and get the exact same "treatment" offered by the Drake scamster - less, of course, the doctor's "expert" opinion.

 

p.s. to all the heartbroken parents who wasted $ and hope on Drake Institute (and to any other frustrated ADDers):

I'm reading one of DR. DANIEL AMEN's books about brain health, including ADD treatment ("Magnicent Mind at Any Age"). Unlike Dr. Wacko at Drake, Dr. Amen's a doctor who knows his stuff. He lays out treatment approaches for anxiety, depression, memory problems, ADD and insomnia (I've got them all so it's a wonderful book!)

Strenuous aerobic exercise is at the top of his list. Just wanted to put that out there. As I've been learning about ADD/ADHD it's become very clear that over the past 4 decades my behavior problems (fighting and drug use in school, boneheaded legal problems, getting fired from good jobs, relationship breakdowns) correlate directly to periods when I was NOT exercising regularly. For years and years I ran, played soccer, swam on swim teams. Injuries and lack of discipline created gaps, and every time that's when things went downhill.

So Moms and Dads, I implore you to get to the library and check out Dr. Amen's books, and help your kid find some type of strenuous exercise he/she likes doing. It'll be the best ADHD/ADD treatment you'll ever find.

p.p.s. - please ignore my original post here about Dr. Valkoff being a q-u-a-c-k. Didn't mean to say that; just my emotions getting the better of me, which happens a lot when your brain isn't working right.

 

I am looking at using Neurofeedback for my 8 yo twin DS's.  Is this the same as the Drake Institute?

Hello All,

I was so happy someone else is frustrated with the Drake and understood the point I was trying to make. I am so passionate about making madi better, that it consumes me.  After Drake, after the "play thereapist" they recommended, after using a homeopathic nurse, after meds, the best treatment that I have found works best for my daughter is good strong parenting.  Keeping the reigns tight and being consistant with EVERYTHING in her life and positive reenforcement has really helped Madi.  The minute we stray from that is when all hell breaks loose.  Reading your postings got me fired up again and wanting to go after the Drake Institute.  I just feel time wasted fighting them is time and energy I could have given to my daughter.  Please spread the word about Drake Institute, we owe it to others.

Shonna, Metis et al., this is really scary stuff. I do remember when first researching ADHD that all these popup or sidebar ads about "Don't give your kids medications--treat ADHD the natural way" and stuff like that would show up, but I skipped them. Scary to think of a place like Drake that does such deliberate and calculuated marketing for a sca.

Metis, how did you figure out that poster back in November was part of the scam? Did something jump out at you? Was there a hidden code? Now I'm curious. :)

Dee
Hi All,

I am one of those "desperate" moms who lost nearly 00
to Drake institute with 0 results for my son. You know
what I just found out, this scam poster "mirnaee" also
has posted under testimonials in Drake website where she
talks about her daughter. Here she talks about her son!!
I bet she is paid to post randomly like this. She should
have at least had the sense to stick to the same gender
of her imaginary child!

Thanks,
MM [QUOTE=graiae66]Shonna, Metis et al., this is really scary stuff. I do remember when first researching ADHD that all these popup or sidebar ads about "Don't give your kids medications--treat ADHD the natural way" and stuff like that would show up, but I skipped them. Scary to think of a place like Drake that does such deliberate and calculuated marketing for a sca.

Metis, how did you figure out that poster back in November was part of the scam? Did something jump out at you? Was there a hidden code? Now I'm curious. :)

Dee
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Hahahaha. A little web savvy music if you please!

How did I know they bot ran? Because [now pay attention kiddies, cuz it goes on everywhere]

I had my forum open. Suddenly a n00b shows up not 30 seconds after the post and pulls a cut and paste. To write that much would take at least 20 minutes but it showed up 3 minutes or so after the FIRST post.

I lecture on "hactivism". That means using the web to promote activist causes. One of the trade tricks is to use rss feeds around the "special words" about whatever cause you are promoting. Then when the "other side" posts an article--an activist can jump in the comment section [aka "digging"] and post their side of the debate.

So when a shill shows up that quickly, it means the company is paying someone to watch what shows up everywhere on the web and counter the message with a response using a router [so the ISP addy is fake] and 30 minute email account if necessary. It means they are running bot programs 24/7 to find their product name anywhere on the web.

In some cases they don't even have to start an email [that costs extra]--a spam program will post the message. In this case, it was a fake account meaning they are paying someone to post cut n pastes.

People actually get paid to do this. Anyone looking for work?
[QUOTE=MightyMom]Hi All,

I am one of those "desperate" moms who lost nearly 00
to Drake institute with 0 results for my son. You know
what I just found out, this scam poster "mirnaee" also
has posted under testimonials in Drake website where she
talks about her daughter. Here she talks about her son!!
I bet she is paid to post randomly like this. She should
have at least had the sense to stick to the same gender
of her imaginary child!

Thanks,
MM[/QUOTE]


Now you know--when you see those ads--"work at home on your computer"?

THAT'S the job. Kinda like telemarketing but pays better.

'Way to go at catching her.

She's not even good at it if she isn't savvy enough to use a router [change isps] and switch nics.





Class action lawsuit is what I was thinking as well.  It's just a matter of getting everyone together who has been a victim of the Drake Institute and finding an attorney we all agree on.  Any suggestions on how I might get the ball rolling on this one.  I'm open to suggestions and guidance.  This company is making millions and millions at the expense of parents who have children with special needs!!Another question....why is this web site still allowing Drake Institute to post an advertisment off to the side.  I tried contacting the company and they never responded.  If any of you have had a bad experience with the Drake...please contact AdhdNews and let them know of your experience also if anyone is familiar with the Dr. Laura show on the radio, she advertises the heck out of the Drake, yet has no personal experience with them.  I'm only assuming she rubs elbows with the wealthy doctors at the Drake in Orange County,CA or she is paid the right amount to plug them into her talk radio station.  Give her a call as well and let her know she is advertising for a bogus company.It's all about money shonna.

Drake has the money to pay for the advertising. It's the nature of the world, unfortunately

[QUOTE=MightyMom]Hi All,

I am one of those "desperate" moms who lost nearly 00
to Drake institute with 0 results for my son. You know
what I just found out, this scam poster "mirnaee" also
has posted under testimonials in Drake website where she
talks about her daughter. Here she talks about her son!!
I bet she is paid to post randomly like this. She should
have at least had the sense to stick to the same gender
of her imaginary child!

Thanks,
MM[/QUOTE]

THAT IS TOO FUNNY!

PARENTS BEWARE, THE DRAKE INSTITUTE CAN CHANGE THE SEX OF YOUR CHILD.  SO IF YOU WANT TO KEEP YOUR CHILD THE ACTUAL SEX THEY ARE, DO NOT TAKE THEM TO DRAKE.  THE REPERCUSSIONS CAN BE CATASTROPHIC! 

 

LMAO

[QUOTE=~ogram~]

 

THAT IS TOO FUNNY!

PARENTS BEWARE, THE DRAKE INSTITUTE CAN CHANGE THE SEX OF YOUR CHILD.  SO IF YOU WANT TO KEEP YOUR CHILD THE ACTUAL SEX THEY ARE, DO NOT TAKE THEM TO DRAKE.  THE REPERCUSSIONS CAN BE CATASTROPHIC! 

 

LMAO

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As a forum administrator, I find it interesting that you poke fun at the Drake but yet they are still allowed to advertise on this website.  Your comment was funny because I can't stand the DRAKE and what they stand for, but the sad thing is some poor nieve family might turn in their life savings to get their child help at the DRAKE because they see the advertisment on YOUR website.  It doesn't become so funny after that.  Trust me, I have saved money for years for our three children and it was flushed down DRAKES toilet.  That could put a parent over the edge if they weren't financially prepared to deal with the let down or that was the only money they had to their name.  Maybe as a forum adminl. you have more pull about pulling the drake advertisment from the pop ups

shonna wrote: As a forum administrator, I find it interesting that you poke fun at the Drake but yet they are still allowed to advertise on this website

As a new member of this message board, I find it audacious of you to address the adminsitration in such a disrespectful way, especially since you are clueless about how the message board operates. Advertisers are NOT endorsed by ADHDNEWS. The advertisers pay a fee to the owner of the website to run their ads here. These ads have nothing to do with the adminstrator or moderator and and all the time we spend here is spent making sure this board is safe and that the members are informed and emotionally supported We do this on a voluntary basis. This is not a member operated board and this is information you have no need knowing about but I'm giving you the courtesy of explaining so that other members have the correct perception. Ogram is poking fun of the "scam poster" and had you took the time to read the rules of this message board stating that if you have questions for the adminsitration they should respectufully be addressed in a pm, not out on public display then perhaps there would be no need for me to waste my time here explaining things to you.

Clearly you have a distorted perception of the post and I highly recommend that in the future you spend your time speaking to lawyers about a class action law suit against Drake instead of coming to a support board to disrespect the adminstrator and cause confrontation . What is not allowed here is a lack of respect for the adminstration or members who were actually being supportive of your cause. Shame on you

 

 

Well, I was going to ignore this poster that is obviously p.o.ed, but I decided to say my part.  If any of you are "old timers" here, you know what she is in for, if not, watch out she is in for it.  lmao  here it goes...

First off, Shonna, 

But I would also suggest you not address me, especially publicly.

 

xxx  never mind.  your not worth it.  i can tell you are too pissed off to take any thing I said in, so I deleted it.  be mad and stew in it, when you decide to stop stewing, re-read this thread.  Then you might laugh at it.

 

~ogram~39805.6684722222I agree. Taking advantage of concerned parents who want the best for their kids is criminal in my view. There should be a class action law suit.  Drake does NOT work and is a complete waste of money I took a look at the Drake Institute's website, and their primary treatment appears to be neurofeedback. They provide other things as well, like parenting classes for behavior management, etc. There are studies that show neurofeedback reduces adhd symptoms, and some board members have reported good results. I have heard that it can take up to 20 sessions to see results. Maybe the institute needs to identify when someone will not benefit from further sessions sooner, and then be up front about it. Prolonging treatment when it is not working, and then recommending expensive testing to rule out other things does not appear to be the right course of action. At the very least, it leaves a trail of angry parents.