ADHD & Electronic Music | ADHD Information

Great... I would like some of everyones input on a concept I am developing.

It was originally something I had created for my own personal use, but people I am showing are asking for more and telling me I should take it a step further. So here I am... Stepping. Tell me what you think.

http://www.streamload.com/graceaddict/EL/GSS4X0EV1R/4WhatLie sBehindTheLaw.mp3

Thank You!

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Quick thoughts of the top of my head.

I would reduce the volume of the narrator,
-I might put a flange on his voice.
- I might notch the eq of the music, drastically eq the voice over and try to make it grove more.

The "laugh" sample might distract from the point

Think you could e-mail a copy (just 30 seconds worth) of the raw voice (without music) and let me play with it?

andocrates @ gmail.c0m

I am not a producer. Though I am not opposed to becoming one. I am trying to see if there is a learning tool here which can be harnessed. I dont nessecarily want to make the jump to say "pop club music" (though I have brainstormed it & made a few prototype mixes). www.electronicaword.blogspot.com

I am imagining that an ADD/ADHD person could learn to easily produce something like this individually with a basic program package. That way they could voice record a lecture or find helpful books in audio form and go right home and slap there favorite electronica in the background. They will find themselves standing in the shower, driving to work, laying in bed, going on walks, relaxing on the couch or even working out... all the while studying & learning.

As you can probably tell from the mixes I am a Christian. Apologetics is not a subject with alot of flavor to most people or even myself at times, but it is an invaluable tool to know why you believe and that is what you will find in the mixes reason to believe.

Like I said previously I made this for personal use at first. I hope that this will be helpful to others in the same way it has for myself.

graceaddict38338.7233333333That's cool he has found what can be a life long career doing something he enjoys and his ADD may work for him instead of against him. Do you know if the remix is out on vinyl?Without a doubt, a regular hard core beat is hypnotic to an adder. A place they can really escape.

Rhythm allows them to explore their wonderful creativity, through spontaneous dance or in their minds.

Endorphines without the drugs!!
A must for the unmedicated
i listen to a lot of jungle / dnb .... i like to listen to it a lot while im working as it helps block out all the other crap thats happening in the office, but its not very distracting as its very repetitive..... awesome ;)

THis was my post from 8/19/04.

My son who is ADD is "addicted" to music. He produces "Trance". SAme thing as you, he will be on the computer from 10am to 2AM in the morning.

The good thing is he has found what his passion is. He is 17 yrs old and doesn't do real well in school. But he already has 4 record deals signed. A producer paid his way to Florida this summer to work in the studio with him for a week.

Get this, He also plays "Pipe Organ" and plays at different churches in our area every Sunday. (He's played since he was 5ish).

(Not a comercial) Check out his stuff-Google search- Marcus Schulz presents Elevation-"Clear Blue". Clear Blue is one of my son's works.

As my daughter said once we found out he had this great talent..."Remember how we used to yell at him for being on that stupid computer all day? Who Knew???

**Please read on!!!

12/10/04

My son does progressive Trance.

Well my son's song "Clear Blue" was picked up by Paul Oakenfold and remixed and put on his LP "Creamfields".

Creamfields has just been nominated for a GRAMMY! (Best Electronic/Dance Album)

Check out the CD, my son's track is #5, "Marcus Schulz presents Elevation-Clear Blue" Elevation is my son. This is not ment to be a commercial, it's intention is that ADDers can do great things in this world, just find your nitch! At age 16 he's found his.

For those that don't know, this music is Trance, you know that stuff that they play at "Rave" parties. How devilish!

Remember this is a kid that isn't doing well in school. ADD Doesn't know what he wants to do when he leaves school. Lack of Direction????

One more thing. He Plays "Pipe Organ" every Sunday at various churches. He has played since age 14. He is booked for the next 6 months every Sunday. The LORD is truely working through him with his music!

Just ask the various people that he has touch around the world with his talents.

Wow, "gottago" that's just so cool. I'll keep my eye open.i make electronic music. i'm always listening to it. it gets me
going.ya, same for me, i'm into dnb/jungle/breakcore, hardcore, psytrance etc...

i have some documentation about the effects produced by this music, but infortunately they're written in french.

music with lyrics doesn't distract as long as the lyrics are "interesting", i mean not some commercial sh*t like "i love you, i miss you...", that's about the same thing as whern i'm chatting with someone i guess.

It's all I listen to. Winamp radio is great for this, breaks, goa, 2 step, DnB, etc - all for free.!

I listen to progresive/trance the reguler beat helps me stay focused on the task at hand

I am noticing that ADD/ADHD people tend to enjoy dance music and electronic music.

I personally love Electronica I would like to see a study on its relation to ADD/ADHD and would also like to explore the possibility of it being thereputic or possibly create a more innovative way of learning.

Anyone feel me on this?

graceaddict38337.8387962963I'm also into electronic music. I read somewhere that ADDers prefer music without lyrics cause its less distracting. That's not the case for me though.

When I'm practicing kanji stoke order (kanji is Japanese writing with the complex symbols) I loop this beat (you can't loop this in winamp you need a looping program.)

I can work with that beat for hours making the strokes in time with the beats. It really makes the stroke order memorable to me. But it seems to drive everyone else crazy.

[QUOTE=monk] Without a doubt, a regular hard core beat is hypnotic to
an adder. A place they can really escape.

Rhythm allows them to explore their wonderful creativity, through
spontaneous dance or in their minds.

Endorphines without the drugs!!
A must for the unmedicated
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OK, I wonder if this is true more so for those with ADHD, as opposed to
those of us with the more laid-back "inattentive/overly distracted" ADD?

I am a long time professional musician, and find that yes, steady beats
are a soothing & energizing intoxicant, altho I tend to favor slower, more
sensual grooves (from Isley Bros. to Brazilian, to slow blues, to world/new
age, etc.)...

I've even used slow groove grooves to workout, and otherwise energize,
as it's the sensuality & depth of the music that turns me on/up, as
opposed to simply speed. Also, altho I love using synths (and play a wind
synth alot), I am not a fan of "mechanical/industrial/harsh" sounding
textures, altho, I also love screamin lead guitar & other intense, "crying"
playing or singing as well!

But again, that intensity also depicts great depth of emotion, and as I
said, it's THAT that turns me on. So it could be early Zep, Cream, Hendrix,
Santana, or Coltrane, Jobim, & Frankie Beverly & Maze, if it's deep,
authentic, & passionate, I'm there.....

here is a track by me

hope you'll enjoy, it's rough

[QUOTE=graceaddict]

I am noticing that ADD/ADHD people tend to enjoy dance music and electronic music.

Anyone feel me on this?

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Really? That's news to me. I like listening to all different kinds of music but I don't particularly favor electronic music. My favorite kinds of music are bhangra, salsa, music from the sixties, classical European and I also like listening to Japanese taiko drums.

I don't think there's any relation. I think it's just your personal preference.

scarygreengiant38342.6995486111

I'm pretty sure there is a connection, this is a favorite ADD board topic. It's just not all inclusive.

When I hear music from the 60's I want to kick something ;-P

[QUOTE=shinsetu_hito]

When I'm practicing kanji stoke order (kanji is
Japanese writing with the complex symbols) I loop this beat (you can't
loop this in winamp you need a looping program.)

狢 can work with that beat for hours making the strokes in time with the
beats. It really makes the stroke order memorable to me. But it seems to
drive everyone else crazy.

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I can understand that.....

It would drive me crazy in about five minutes.

I must also say that musical preference is unlikely an ADD-shared trait;
with the possible exception, as yet unexplored, as to ADHDers compared
to inattentive ADDers.

As a longtime professional musician, I know lots of other
ADD-"challenged" players, and most are into a variety of music. In fact,
most musicians that play "real"

instruments aren't into electronica
much at all....

Many of us though are into almost ALL kinds of music, obviously we may
prefer some genres over others, but we appreciated good, heartfelt
music... And that could explain why electronica, especially techno, is not
as appealing; so much of it has litlle "soul"....

Sorry, of course there is some that is incredibly innovative, creative,
lyrical & soulful, but like new age music/atmospheric music, there is quite
a lot of rubbish out there. Heck, I've got lots of massage therapist friends
who constantly complain about the difficulty finding quality mellow, new
agish CDs....

I like to think that the electronic musics I listen to are immensly soulful... Though I agree there is a lot of "rubbish" as you say to sift through... That is part of why I enjoy elctronic music... Its very diverse and individualized. There is almost a hunt involved & when one finds that Sound or Sounds ... It is mmmm mmmmm moving....

There is enough ADD/ADHD electronic listeners to say there is a connection. I am not saying it is a "symptom" or needed universally accepted norm for all ADD/ADHD people.

The comparison of "organic" & electronic music wont get us anywhere, so I have started a new thread. I'd like to explore the possibility with my electronic music collegues the evident thereputic & creativity producing effects of Electronica... (not to say that other musics do not also serve a similiar or even more effective purpose)

If somone who is ADD/ADHD does not enjoy Electronic music thats OK... You are entitled to have bad tastes.

[QUOTE=senecer]I think it would certainly be interesting to see if there is any significant correlation between ADD type and music preference. Although, more specifically, I think it would be interesting to see if the clear and predictable rhythm of electronic or dance music is preferred over the less obvious and often varying rhythm to other kinds of music (rock, classical, etc.).

I have inattentive type ADD, and personally I don't like electronic or dance music. I don't really like having an overpowering beat behind the music I'm listening to. I tend to like music that changes as it goes. Something that works the way my mind works, jumping from thought to thought, rather than something that is the polar opposite, staying the same from start to finish. Just my thoughts on it.

Really interesting topic. Great post, graceaddict!
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Well, it really depends on why you are listening. Driving down the road with nothing to do I want something meatier to listen to. (Tom Waites, Donald Fagan). If I want to dance or socialize it's house. When I jog the steady 120BPM of techno keeps both my heart rate and my pace up. If I need music to help me focus, to drown out all the distractions, it's trance.

I'm also a musician and a recording engineer (Which doesn't mean anything these days, but I worked on 2 inch tape :-) But Rock is just played out. There is nothing left there anymore.

My Mom likes Big Bands, but that's just nostalgia. There hasn't been an innovative band since, gee I can't remember - maybe Weezer and that ain't saying much. It's just the same old 70's stuff recycled over and over.

Tupac, Eminen, etc. That's art, like it or not. Electronic music, down beat, trip hop, turntabilism etc., represents our time (Hip-Hop IS part of electronic music) . The market place doesn't determine art. The whole MP3 thing was just an attempt to keep the old system propped up for as long as possible.

shinsetu_hito38344.9724305556 [QUOTE=shinsetu_hito]

Well, it really depends on why you are listening. Driving down the road
with nothing to do I want something meatier to listen to. (Tom Waites,
Donald Fagan). If I want to dance or socialize it's house. �When I jog the
steady 120BPM of techno keeps both my heart rate and my pace up. If I
need music to help me focus, to drown out all the distractions, it's
trance.

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I agree, most of us use different music/genres for different purposes/
vibes. People who only listen to one type exclusively are really missing
the boat!

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I'm also a musician and a recording engineer (Which doesn't
mean anything these days, but I worked on 2 inch tape :-) But Rock犲s just
played out. There is nothing left there anymore.

My Mom likes Big Bands, but that's just nostalgia. There hasn't been an
innovative band since, gee I can't remember - maybe Weezer and that
ain't saying much. It's just the same old 70's stuff recycled over and over.

[/QUOTE]
Yeah, rock has not seen innovation for a long, long time....
That said, there is nothing wrong with artists creating excellent music
within pre-existing genres, I don't value "innovation" as THE primary
criteria for my enjoyment. If it touches me, I'm there.....

[QUOTE]

Tupac, Eminen, etc. That's art, like it or not. Electronic music, down
beat, trip hop, turntabilism etc.,�represents our time (Hip-Hop IS part of
electronic music) . The market place doesn't determine art. The whole
MP3 thing was just an attempt to keep the old system propped up for as
long as possible. �

The loud tube driven amps of the 60's & 70's represented the
technology of the day, It wasn't pioneered by Record Companies but by
garage bands, The computer allows anyone to be a musical artist and
there isn't any turning back.[/QUOTE]
Uh, our voice, or a drum allows anyone to be a musical artist too....
I don't believe that simply having simple tools to "make" music, means
"anyone is a musical artist". "Anyone" has been able to take pictures for
decades, yet the pictures some take are "art" & those of many, many
others are just pictures.

The local alternative paper had to post an editorial to address the flood of
CDs they were getting from the many "bands" in town, wantig them to
review them. The paper said they will NOT review those recordings that
are just someone's "bedroom project", and doesn't represent a real
musical entity (so to speak). Simply having the technical ability to create a
CD's worth of "music" doesn't necessarily make one an "artist", only the
public &/or God can determine that.

As to hip hop; I respect the fact that it has become the urban "folk music"
of the last twenty years, as a beat & a flow of words is all ya need. Now,
as to how much of it, especially these days is "creative", much less
"innovative" is debatable.

I'm in Atlanta, where many of the top artists & producers in that area live
& work, so I'm up close & personal to both the scene & some of the
movers & shakers. Yet even Outkast, looked at as being highly
"innovative", do what? They put out a couple huge hits (Hey Ya! & The Way
You Move), one a recycled Cameo/Sly/Clinton groove, the other a
recycled EW&F/Whispers, etc. groove, THAT'S "innovation"?

[QUOTE] Musical skill hasn't mattered in music since the multi-track
recorder was犲nvented.

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Now THAT made me LAUGH!!!

Not that I really believe it, but I guess it depends on what "matters".....

As I've posted in other responses, My son is real talented in Electronic music. His work was picked up by producers and record companies. His one piece was put on to "Paul Oakenfold's" LP, CREAMFIELDS. It is nominated for a GRAMMY.

Pretty cool for a 17 yr old. Over welming for DAD!!!!

"elevation"...

I think it would certainly be interesting to see if there is any significant correlation between ADD type and music preference. Although, more specifically, I think it would be interesting to see if the clear and predictable rhythm of electronic or dance music is preferred over the less obvious and often varying rhythm to other kinds of music (rock, classical, etc.).

I have inattentive type ADD, and personally I don't like electronic or dance music. I don't really like having an overpowering beat behind the music I'm listening to. I tend to like music that changes as it goes. Something that works the way my mind works, jumping from thought to thought, rather than something that is the polar opposite, staying the same from start to finish. Just my thoughts on it.

Really interesting topic. Great post, graceaddict!
There is this music that's really popular in Japan called "Para-Para" music but it's really known as Eurobeat. It's really good music. It's music that's made in Italy but only released in Japan and Asia I think. The kind of music I like are; japanese eurobeat. I have heard some american electronica and it just doesn't seem to play with my imagination as well as others have, no offensense to anyone who enjoys american trance or electronica.