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I throught id come on here and have a rant!! hope you dont mind but the last few days has been hard, my son ryan is 7 and has ADHD and Aspergers Syndrome hes on meds Concerta XL 27mg and melatonin 2mg at night.

Its everything really first of all can anyone give me advice on the mornings get him out of bed and ready for school its a nightmare i find it really hard keeping him on task. He wakes up in such a mood he shouts and loses his temper. Then he starts all over again when he has to have a wash, brush his teeth  and get ready for school. Ive tryed allsorts to make life easyier but nothing seems to work.As anyone else been through this? Im starting a sleep diary soon but as ive told the health visitor hes fine once hes asleep, hes on meds so once hes asleep hes fine, the problem is the mornings so i dont know if the dairy will be any use. But it has got to be worth a try i suppose.

The other thing is bathtime, he hates it, we have such arguments bout this. Im still washing him and washing his hair, he goes crazy if water gets on his face i have to wash his hair in a certain way if i try and do it different he moans and ends up in yet another arguement, he dont wash his hands before mealtimes or after using the toilet. We have visual prompts in the bathroom to remind him to do this but nothing works. Im fed up of telling him, im just looking for any tips or advice.

His school is annoying me to, they say there doing all these things for ryan but this is yet to be seen, he seems to be spending more and more time in time out or in the sancutury area im worried his learning is gunna start being affected by this. When i take him to school hes fine walking down the path into school, but as soon as he see's his teacher he starts playing up not wanting to go into school, he trys to hide behind me , he not line up with the rest of his class, but the the school reasure me that there isnt a problem so i dunno, but there must be something happening for Ryan to react like this. I feel as i cant help him because im not sure whats going on, ive try'd talking to ryan and he just dont answer me, any suggestions?

Thanks for listening

 

 

 

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I throught id come on here and have a rant!! hope you dont mind but the last few days has been hard, my son ryan is 7 and has ADHD and Aspergers Syndrome hes on meds Concerta XL 27mg and melatonin 2mg at night.

Well that's a huge handful, right there. I'd be ranting too

Its everything really first of all can anyone give me advice on the mornings get him out of bed and ready for school its a nightmare i find it really hard keeping him on task. He wakes up in such a mood he shouts and loses his temper. Then he starts all over again when he has to have a wash, brush his teeth  and get ready for school. Ive tryed allsorts to make life easyier but nothing seems to work.As anyone else been through this?

Mornings are horrid for kids with ADHD. Add Asperger's [kids who don't like routine changes] and it's a big job.

Morning problems are common complaints around here.

The other thing is bathtime, he hates it, we have such arguments bout this. Im still washing him and washing his hair, he goes crazy if water gets on his face i have to wash his hair in a certain way if i try and do it different he moans and ends up in yet another arguement, he dont wash his hands before mealtimes or after using the toilet. We have visual prompts in the bathroom to remind him to do this but nothing works. Im fed up of telling him, im just looking for any tips or advice.

Well, a couple of ideas. Don't know what will work.

I used to get kids to let me wipe them off playing a game called, "the electric wash cloth"--I'd buzz and fly it around and when they were laughing--wipe them off.

Another option might be buying him a box of "wipes" and letting him pick the smell.

Check too to see if it's the soap that bothers him. Nobody notices minor soap allergies [perfume in them] but it can really drive a sensitive kid off the rails. Let him pick his soap with a smell he likes and see if that helps. Or see what happens if you take soap out of the equation altogether for a while.

His school is annoying me to, they say there doing all these things for ryan but this is yet to be seen, he seems to be spending more and more time in time out or in the sancutury area im worried his learning is gunna start being affected by this. When i take him to school hes fine walking down the path into school, but as soon as he see's his teacher he starts playing up not wanting to go into school, he trys to hide behind me , he not line up with the rest of his class, but the the school reasure me that there isnt a problem so i dunno, but there must be something happening for Ryan to react like this. I feel as i cant help him because im not sure whats going on, ive try'd talking to ryan and he just dont answer me, any suggestions?

Thanks for listening

Obviously something is going on for him. If he's not very verbal--the question is *what*?

Is this a new development?

Many years ago I did some work with autistic/aspberger's/developmentally delayed kids and I know, when some first came to the class, they would flip right out because they didn't do 'change' well. After an hour of settling in, they were having a grand time. Dunno if that helps.

Is he in a special school?

Hope some parents on here have some ideas, because other than that,  I'm stumped!


 

 

 

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Thanks for that, i will try the soap thing it might work you never know.

No hes not in a special school, hes in a mainstream school. His teacher says hes fine once he has settled down in the morning, im just wanting to find out what the problem is so i can make things alittle easyier for him if i can, i just want to see him happy

thanks again for the replie

Maybe he's just going through the transition freak out?

My son has not yet be diagnosed with ADHD, we are currently going thru the evaulation.  He is 5 and in kindergarten and the mornings were awful to say the least. 

I started the marble dicispline and it has worked wonders for mornings and night night.  Also, he has a rountine in the mornings that I don't dare stray from.  If I do, it's like a nightmare.  It up, get dressed, then turn on the cartoons and eat breakfast.  Then he watches the clock for time to leave. 

As for school, I can't help you there, my son loves school.  Even though he brings home frowny faces 90% of the time.  Don't know what to do about that, we have tried almost everything.  He is a BIG talker and between talking and playing around, that is his biggest reason for getting frowny faces.  As for his grades, he's doing great, it's just his behavior that is the issue. 

Good luck, I wish you and your son the best.

 

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His school is annoying me to, they say there doing all these things for ryan but this is yet to be seen, he seems to be spending more and more time in time out or in the sancutury area im worried his learning is gunna start being affected by this. When i take him to school hes fine walking down the path into school, but as soon as he see's his teacher he starts playing up not wanting to go into school, he trys to hide behind me , he not line up with the rest of his class, but the the school reasure me that there isnt a problem so i dunno, but there must be something happening for Ryan to react like this. I feel as i cant help him because im not sure whats going on, ive try'd talking to ryan and he just dont answer me, any suggestions?
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Hello danielle.
I am not sure if this might help you but i have had similar expierience with my daughter and her last years teacher.
The teacher kept sending my daughter out of the classroom whenever she used to "missbehave". It is embarassing and a pain for a poor little kid like that having to walk past all her classmates who are staring at her giggling and laughing basically getting told "you are not welcome here" and she would not even understand why. In her own world she did nothing wrong and the teacher was mean to her. She came home crying being sad about what happened in school. Af first i was not too sure how to react on that. Kim is my only child and i never before had to deal with a teacher like this. After a while i got fed up with the teachers methods of punishment and went to school to have a talk with her. From the teachers point of view my daughter started this.... yes that is exactly what the teacher said. I thought im not hearing right when i heard that. I was so upset with this woman i almost forgot my manners there. How can she say a (back then) 7 year old provoked her to a point where she threw her out of class because she couldnt handle her anymore.
What i am trying to tell you is, you might want to check if your son feels treated unfair by his teacher. It is probably more difficult for you if your son doesnt talk much try and read between the lines though.
After a few tries to talk to the teacher and principal i ended up taking my kid out of that school and far away from this woman. Ever since she is in the new school she actually starts showing improvment. I think if i would have left her in that school she would have lost interest in learing at all.

I hope sharing my expierience helped you in any way.
SusanneAUT39780.3983796296  SusanneAUT

"She started it"?

How old was this teacher? Six?

Good grief--SOMEONE has to be the adult in the relationship and it can't be the child.

Good for you for changing the child's school before any more damage was done.
Hey Danielle, I'm so sorry--sounds like you're having a really tough time.

As always, your mileage may vary (YMMV) with this advice, so don't know if it will help or not...

1. Mornings can be tough for all of us (don't even speak to me until I've had coffee, lol). We start out for the morning actually the night before by choosing clothes and laying them out. We have times written on a chart (getting up, getting dressed, taking medication, and only then TV). We're lucky in that breakfast is served at school.

2. Could you try giving his medicine FIRST, before anything else is done? Would that help?

3. I have to admit, I am a bad parent in the morning wash routine. I don't usually push it, though while waiting at the bus stop, I'll bring a wipe and usually give him a quick once over.

4. I'm not too familiar with the UK school system's planning for kids who have special needs. Here in the US, parents usually work with a teacher team to design a personal plan for each child called an IEP/504. This is a specific set of goals, responsibilities, consequences, etc. When all parties engage in what they say they're supposed to be doing, it can work very well. Does your son's school have anything like that?

5. Does your child's doctor or health care provider have any intervention plans?

Sorry I can't be of more help, but feel free to vent. I am new here, but I've found everyone very, very understanding.

Dee