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Hello and welcome. You really have a lot on your plate and no, none of this is your fault.  Based on the information you have shared so far, although you said you went to a specialist for a diagnosis, I would get another opinion  to confirm a diagnosis of ADHD or perhaps maybe more going on and then devise an intervention plan. The counselor has an opinion but they are not qualified to make a diagnosis of ADHD or anything else but you really should confirm what the specialist said because sometimes something else is missed or misdiagnosis can occur.

Even if your child does have ADHD, behavior modification standing alone (particularly negative reinforcement) will not effectively manage the symptoms of ADHD nor will it work. Parenting classes are very helpful but only when you have all the other tools needed to fully manage the symptoms of ADHD. Children with ADHD have a 30% maturity lag and with regard to stimulant medication, common side effects are the same for All stimulant med's but everyone responds differently. There is no such thing as a stimulant with the least amount of side effects. Response is very individual. The only exception is Straterra which is a non stimulant medication and a blood level medication. Side effects for this med differ.

Medication is the only treatment proven to safely and effectively manage all the symptoms of ADHD but shouldn't even be considered unless your convinced as the parent that the diagnosis is correct and that there is no co existing conditions. There are some children that have co existing bipolar disorder in which case giving stimulant med's could produce undesirable side effects. I'm no suggesting this is true of your child but before interventions are put into place, an accurate diagnosis is critical.  What type of specialist diagnosed your child and are you comfortable with the diagnosis? Also, what recommendation did the specialist make in terms of treatment? Call the specialist and ask the receptionsit to call you if they have a cancellation before your next appointment in a few weeks. This poor child is crying out for help and the entire family needs a break. Please keep us posted.

ive tried to ignore the bad stuff, and focus on all the good stuff, but to be honest it wasnt very offen, more offen than not she is misbehaving, i try and do things with her, like we'll make cookies, but she becomes defiant and wont do anything, or just argues with her brother, i try to take her shopping for a fun thing to do, and all she does is whinge and complain when i tell her she cant have something, and has big temper tantrums, tried a reward chart, that did absolutley nothing, tried money, thats worked slightley better but not by much, 

hi, welcome

    Boy, sounds like you could use some help. It can get overwhleming! I strongly suggest counseling. You're doing the right thing by having your daughter evaluated by a specialist and being sure to have a proper diagnosis. A GOOD parenting class can be invaluable though. These kids need to be disciplined differently. It's ok to need advice and to get it professionally. You can learn how to use positivie behavior modification and good consequence reward tools. It's exhausting and requires all your patience, but is the only way to go and the rewards are worth it. Check into your local childrens hospital for and ADHD clinic, it's a good place to start.

Hi,
this is my first post here,
im at a lose as to what to do, and i dont really have anyone to talk to, my parents and grandparents are no longer here, and we dont see my husbands parents all that offen,
Im 26 this friday, and i have 3 kids, a 6 year old girl, a 5 year old boy and a 2 year old boy,
my 6 year old was diagnosed with ADHD last year when she started shcool, before she started school i took her to a specialist hoping to get a hold of any problems before she went to school, althugh i was turned away and bascilly made to feel as though it was all my fault and it was just because i couldnt handle her, the first day of school, her teacher asked me if she had adhd or something similar, i told her what had happened, and she suggested we see the school councoller, which we did, and she determinded that she definetly had some form of adhd, then we went to another specialist who determined that yes indeed she had adhd, and may also have ODD, we had her hearing tested to see if maybe there was a problem there,  he said there was a slight problem but nothing that would be causing her to behave the way she does,
she never listens, is constantly disobedient, constantly steals food hides the evidence, takes things that arnt hers, is VERY defiant, rude, argumentative,
ive tried so hard not to get angry with her, as i know it doesnt do any good, but when i wake up at 6 in the morning to her and her brother trying to hide a 3L tub of ice cream, what am i suppose to do,
sending her to her room doesnt work, making her stand in the corner doesnt work, today i took EVERY single toy she has away, and told her that when she can show me she is recponsible, then she can have 1 toy back,
I honestly dont know what to do,
on top of that, the other way i found her and her brother trying to burn the house down, i was folding clothes in the bedroom, they were suppose to be playing, as soon as i walked out i could smell something burning,
I just dont know how to get through them them that what they are doing is dangerious, and could hurt alot of people, but it still just wont sink in,
we have another appointment with the specialist in a few weeks, I just dont know how im going to keep it together until them

TWO CENTS FROM ME.

MEDS can offer   certian kinds of results.

focus during school  hours ability to have restful sleep emotional  stability

just because someone sayes  take a parenting class  doesnt mean  you are a bad parent.i hadnt worked with children when i took a job  working with   adhd / bipolar / odd / neglected  / chldren.boy was i overwhelmedculture clash with kids and staff   but   the training   offered   kept teaching me things to try.i kept watching other staff  and thier approach  and  tried to copy   them  to bring positive outcomes   to what  i had  difficulties with.after 2  years   im the one teaching staff and supervisors alike  albiet  not in an official capacity .there on the units    with real kids and bossy co- workers.may i add that i have adhd  myself with a co-existing  disorder that i dont discuss openly here.

theres  two main  approaches

baseline behavior  and crisis intervention

baseline  is normal behavior  

crisis intervention   is partly   de escalation    there are techniques   to bring a child back to baseline  behavior.the med  intervention   aids the  child  to cope in thier environment.but is not a cure    so far there  to knowledge  there isnt one.but  certian  foods and    supplements   in combination   with meds   can help maintian  good heath and emotional well beingso  though i dont take medications myself    i see  on a daily basis  the benefits of meds in children .so   when a parent and a doctor  together  team up   to d o thier very bestthe child is  in better care  than those parents whom dont understand   psycological disorders. 

so the above posts are good adivice  

in my humble opinion parents  that yell at thier kids are punishing them parents that dicsipline thier kids do so with a calm voice. after a situation   even if there is yelling  take time  when the situation is over  to review the incedent with the child

only when the child is calm  

get them to  talk about briefly  let them do twice as much  talking.when they  get to point of how it made feel  .pay close attentiont and help then connect    how thier feelings  were tied to what happened.after youve got them to see your point of view ask them what they could have done differently This is the only non med approach  that ive seen  really workallbiet  over a year and to really see the change in thier thinking from impulsive reactions   to  cognitive reasoning.the  doctor  helps with the three bullets  for immediate  intervention but without the adult care givers   connecting  emotions  to   behiors and prompting them to think of alternate choices   some children continue react to many things   that continue to trigger them with no change  in thier emoional developement.so the childs frustration with thier environment and peers continue to be a challenge for everyone involved .i watch  the nanny shows   down load episode from   "the parents journal"i read books about disorders    to become self taught

i'll leave you with this .

stoping a behavior with yelling   is what it is    but perhapsa distraction  1 of about a million available  can stop the behavior and then what?

invite a positve outcome    and then give the child a small time to be cognitively  understuood   then just assit them to start towards the outcome

understanding   emotional developement  according to age

help with what positve outcomes to suggest

and which playmates  to encourage relationships with.

sometimes   a parent  has to   help  with  teach these new   developemental milestones..   

helping to color helping to speak  in polite terms help playing turn based games help being in clubs and cliques encouragement  to be clean

just as a few  of many

i didnt come to what i understand about these issues by myself.

support   and private journaling  help me a great dealalso too   for a child     support is key

a parent that only punishes    is a difficult person to approach with  angry,mad ,sad  emotions  a parent that disciplines helps scared , confussed , ebarressed , frustrated children talk about what they could do next time.

only part of CBT    COGNITIVE BEHAVIOR THERAPY

WHAT A WONDERFUL PARENT YOU ARE  TO ASK FOR HELP  . 

thanks for posting   - come back and keep us up on whats going on. 

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Oh my gosh, you are dealing w/ a lot.  If anyone tells you that it's your fault, that's your tipoff to get another opinion.  Clearly there are major issues going on, and you're a great mom for trying to get to the bottom of it and trying to figure out how to help your kids.  Once you get a correct diagnosis, reading and parent classes can be helpful for learning the best techniques to work w/ the issues.  That doesn't mean there's anything wrong w/ you as a parent.  We all have additional info. to learn!  Actually, 1 of the signs of a good parent is someone who's willing to invest the time and energy to do things for their kids.

I hope you can get another appointment soon and get the help your family desperately needs!