Crying mess in the AM - **UPDATE #2** | ADHD Information
weather??now let me explain before y'all think I've gone and fallen off my rocker ...
My younger son takes his Vyvanse about 15mins before getting on the bus, so up until that point he's a real "joy" - a bit of an attitude, a bit weepy, etc but he's generally pretty happy. This morning was no different, got the attitude and such but what transpired when we went outside COMPLETELY baffled both myself AND my neighbor (whose son gets on the bus with my younger son).
We're standing outside waiting for the bus (and yes, it was really cold ... probably around 20degrees not counting the wind that can slice right through you) and all of a sudden, my son turns into this weeping, crying mess and was all out of sorts. All I could get out of him was that he was cold. (he had a sweatshirt and a tshirt on, plus a heavy coat, a hat and gloves.... he shouldn't of been THAT cold). I've NEVER seen him act like that before (shoot, yesterday he played outside for 20mins before getting on the bus in the snow!).
So ... was it because the Vyvanse hadn't taken affect yet? Or ... was it because he was really THAT cold?! I mean *I* was cold too (I hadn't put socks on and my feet were blocks of ice... but I hadn't expected the bus to be 15mins late, either!). I've just noticed that the weepiness/attitude seems to be getting worse .... his behavior at school has been the same, but he seems like he's falling back into a pattern of not having enough self-confidence in his reading (which at home, he's now reading everything! lol) and his self-esteem seems to be a little low.
I'm not sure what to make of this. I just know that if he behaves like he did this morning, more often ... *I'm* gonna go nuts! I called my neighbor later this morning (On something unrelated) and asked her what she thought and she was COMPLETELY baffled. She's NEVER seen him act like that and it was completely out of character for him and is the opposite of his normal demeanor.
my son is on the small side (he's almost 7, only weighs around 43lbs, and is 46in tall) so I mean, it's theoretical that he indeed was really THAT cold and he just has a hard time staying warm, but he's NEVER NEVER complained like this.
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If it's a one-time thing, I'd write it off as a fluke and not worry about it. If it's an ongoing issue, then spend your energy trying to sort it out.
If I had to guess, if the Vyvanse wasn't fully working yet, his tolerance for a difficult situation was low and that's why he became so upset about the cold.
For your sake and his, I hope this was a 1-time problem. I hear you how difficult those extreme emotions are on your nerves!
Mom2ADHDboy39875.6676967593WOW...... on my way to pick up my son Fri from afterschool care they called.....BAD day!! 
I don't get it.......meds.....they seem to work for a little bit... and then stop??? I tried something this wknd... giving him the dose of LA in the am and the SR at noon...... he had an awesome weekend!! NO problems at all..... I let him have Dr Pepper too.... and surprise surprise... doesn't seem to make him hyper like it may other kids/people.
Went to drop him off this morning to before school care and he got grumpy, didn't want to go. Emailed his teacher and she says he seems better, (think it's because of the little med switch), but I can predict..... not going to last long!! Can't wait until we see the child psychiatrist Thurs, hopefully they can make some sense of everything!!
If you have too low of a dose of Ritalin, can this have bad side effects, especially aggressive behavior? I saw that frstrtdmomof1 has a 20 mg. dose for her six year old and mine has 5 mg. I know it's not prescribed by weight...my son is only about 50 lbs. Also, how does your son eat on the extended release form of Ritalin? I took Sam off of vyvanse because he was eating NOTHING!!! literally. He would want to eat at 9 p.m. at night and you can imagine what transpired then.asdkidsarecool...
Looks like our boys are pretty close in age then... mine will be 7 at the end of next month! He was a good size baby/toddler also. Just a little chubby, which I always thought was adorable, and he was always in the higher % for weight on the growth charts. Now he's average on those charts, which is okay.
My son is extremely active as well, I guess I should be keeping that in mind too! Seems like he never slows down until right before bed! 
I have a 4yr old as well, and he is short and round! Not near as active as Jacob (my almost 7 yr old) either. He'd rather chill out and watch movies!!
Glad to see it is pretty normal, and the fact that he certainly eats when he wants to makes me not so worried about his size!
Stacey .... Holden's bday is April 16th; his older brother, Ashton's bday is April 14th - yes, their bdays are 3yrs and 2 days apart. The little one was 3.5weeks early!! We jokingly say that he wanted me to have TWO diamonds in my mother's ring ;)Anyways.... yes, Holden is constantly on the go go go from the time he wakes up, until he finally falls asleep at night. Which is partially why he needed something to HELP him GO to sleep. His brain is just constantly going unless you make it stop LOL! Holden eats a fair amount and makes fairly healthy choices (yes, he does like some junk, but it's mostly healthy stuff like granola bars, yogurt, cheese, apples, stuff like that....). He's just not built to be big; he just has that small frame so he'd look strange if he was bigger. The odd thing is he had really HUGE feet for his age for the LONGEST time. It seems he's finally growing into them though; they haven't grown in over a year! :)
Anyways.... I hope your son's day was better today ..... H's was. I gave him a cup of pepsi when he got home and it mellowed him down (he was a tad emotional when he got off the bus) so that's good. He's in this rock collecting phase and he's examining the salt crystals that were on our porch (from the ice melt stuff we put down earlier this week).
Hi Jenn... Jacob's is April 27th, so not too much younger than Holden! We need help going to sleep as well, the only suggestion we have received from the Pediatrician so far has been Melatonin, which we do use, but I think he needs more than that, but what do I know, right? I am just mom!
Maybe the psychiatrist we are going to next Thursday will help. Jacob has pretty big feet too, and he's pretty tall.
I usually don't let Jacob have too much caffeine... but maybe I should try it, since it sounds like it has the opposite effect, just like stimulant medication does. I know he wouldn't mind! He loves Dr Pepper!
Glad Holden's day was better! I have to wait and see with Jacob... I am still at work.. No phone calls though, so that is a great sign!!
[QUOTE=frstrtdmomof1]I usually don't let Jacob have too much caffeine... but maybe I should try it, since it sounds like it has the opposite effect, just like stimulant medication does. I know he wouldn't mind! He loves Dr Pepper![/QUOTE]I've known MANY adults who have managed their ADHD with caffeine. You're right, since it's a stimulant drug it has the OPPOSITE effect on our kids. I've heard of parents who will send those small cans of pepsi, mountain dew or dr pepper to school with their children for lunch and it helps calm them, mid-day. It actually calms my older, autistic son as well, which is why I don't mind if they drink caffeinated beverages. I won't do diet sodas (used to, but the aspartamane?) made my older son NUTSO, so we stick with moderate amounts of regular soda.
Glad to hear that you didn't get any phone calls (we never got phone calls .. the hyperness wasn't a problem for my son at school, his inabilitiy to concentrate and focus were and he was EASILY distractible).
Ok ... now I MUST do laundry and finish up some things as *I'm* going out of town in the mornng to go to a baby shower. Daddy better be prepared .... I've got lists of meds, meals, and everything else set up for him! LOL!
Wow.... the things I am learning on here are awesome! I am so glad I found this!!
Thank you to everyone on here that posts and gives advice and shares their stories! I am finding lots of help on here, lots of great tips!
I am going to let Jacob drink Dr Pepper this weekend, and not say no! 
Well I hope everyone has a wonderful weekend!!
Yes it can!! That is why it is recommended that before you stop the med all together, that you exhaust the trial of inceasing the dose.
My son was real skinny at first when the meds were started and he stopped eating for a while. We let him eat late and whatever he wanted. It took a while, but his body got used to it, and he became himself. He looks healthy. Not toobig not too skinny.
Even his doctor who obviously saw him and the weight loss, said it was because his body adjusted!!
I guess it's time to go back to the pediatrician again. There must be a balance somewhere between still eating and less aggressive behavior. Good to know others are experiencing the same things and living through it!
***** UPDATE *****Absolutely NO WHINING, NO CRYING, NO FUSSING THIS AM!! I really, truly think a lot of our morning issues were caused from SLEEP issues, not that the meds hadn't kicked in yet. He took .2mg of clonidine last night and he went to sleep within 20mins and SLEPT ALL NIGHT, WOOT!
We'll see how his day goes on the reduced Vyvanse (we started out at 30mg in Dec, we're trying 20mg for a few days) and how this afternoon/evening goes.
I'm HOPEFUL this will work. My son eats breakfast before the meds have kicked in, he doesn't eat a lot at lunch (if at all) but he snacks like a mad man when he gets home! Cheese, chocolate milk, carrots, etc.... he'll eat for an hour! LOL I'm going to give him some pepsi with his snack, because I think the caffiene from it will help the rebound in the afternoons as well.
My son has always been slow to gain. He weighed 48lbs in November and now weighs 43lbs and almost 7. Yes, he's lost weight but he's always done that lose weight, gain weight thing. Right now, he's just not gaining weight. He's a skinny dude (with really long legs, argh!!) and just has an incredibly metabolism; lucky boy! LOL
Hello anniem... my son (almost 7) is just barely over 50 lbs! I think he is VERY skinny.... but the Doc says he is average, and he's not losing weight, so he is okay. I would rather him "beef up" a little, but I think he metabolizes everthing (including medicine) faster than the average person!
He was started on Adderrall XR before the Ritalin, and he got up to 30mg of that, and something just went horribly wrong, so he was switched to Ritalin because it was supposed to have less side effects than Adderrall. ?? So he was changed to Ritalin, originally started with Ritalin LA 20mg once a day, which didn't last all day, so now currently taking Ritalin SR 20mg in the morning with Ritalin LA 20mg about 4-5 hrs later. So he is actually getting 40mg of it each day!!
His eating habits.... different every day. He eats when he wants to. I don't force him to, because he is not losing weight, but when he asks for something I definitely give it to him. I don't have to watch what he eats that is for sure. Sometimes he skips breakfast, and then snacks, but he rarely skips any other meals, and has never gone a whole day without eating.
I would like him to eat as much as he wants, so he will hopefully "beef up" a little before he gets much older. Right now I just see skin & bones, he is a twig!! I tease him that if it gets too windy he may blow away!! 
We had a pretty good morning as well. I did give him his meds at 6:15, before he actually got out of bed, but then he was up, dressed, ate, and brushed his teeth and let me spike his hair for spring pix at school today, and we were out the door by 7:10!!
I was early for work!! Amazing what a difference from the other morning! ?? Who knows...... I am confused for sure, but so happy we had a great morning!! I am going to be sure to praise him again for it when I pick him up later.
Every day is different I guess!~
Hello anniem... my son (almost 7) is just barely over 50 lbs! I think he is VERY skinny.... but the Doc says he is average, and he's not losing weight, so he is okay. I would rather him "beef up" a little, but I think he metabolizes everthing (including medicine) faster than the average person!
LOL! My son would be a peanut compared to yours; he's barely hanging in at 43lbs; his bday is next month. But my son has always been thin (except as an exclusively breastfed infant when he was a BUTTERBALL! lol) and has always been a bit thinner than his peers. He just has a willowly build and he is more delicately built. He's also VERY active ....
my older son on the other hand? He's a BIG BOY (after being a tiny baby, LOL! talk about opposites in regards to my kids!) He's 90ish pounds and 4'6" at not quite 10yrs old.
IMO the Vyvanse is not in his system yet sometimes it takes a full hour. Also my son got weepy and whining when on Vyvanse and then became angry and aggressive. We had to pull him off and try another med.After spending 30mins with my son cradled in my arms last night because he was hitting, kicking, pinching, screaming and biting me, I called the doctor this morning. Obviously, the afternoons/evenings are still causing a HUGE problem, and have actually WORSENED! What's really heart-breaking is that he literally has no control over it; when all is said and done, he's like "I don't know why I did it. I know I'm not supposed to". VERY impulsive.
SO ... we're increasing the Vyvanse to 40mg (30mg worked great for about 3months... hopefully the 40mg will work for a longer period of time; 20mg obviously DID NOT work for us....)
UGH!!
I really don't get it. My son had such a bad day Fri, then a great weekend, then another bad day at school yesterday. Teacher upset him and apparently he raised his fist to her! So I see him getting worse as well, and I believe he has no control over it either, while others think he does and I would like to smack them sometimes. 
(Dad and stepmom)
The psychologist did get a glimpse of my son like this once, and said so himself... "he has absolutely no control of his emotions right now"
Well then lets help him and get him properly diagnosed and or medicated so he can!! UGH!!!! Right there with you! I hate changing the meds all around and increasing and decreasing, etc.... you never know what is going to happen next!!
Hows things been the rest of the week, just checking in!!
My week has been frustrating to say the least. The Ritalin wears off far too early and his behavior during homework time is impossible. Forget about all the tips and tricks regarding a reward system for good behavior. He's like a tornado that never stops moving. He just can't control it. I'm not sure what's going to happen when he actually has real homework to complete!?
It was just his behavior got COMPLETELY out of control. Now that we've got the behavior back under control (mostly) things are looking up for us.... hope they start looking up for everyone else, too!
I am happy for you. You have a very busy day. Your son must also be very smart (maybe gifted?). That helps!!
Enjoy your weekend with your family!!
Our week has been okay..... no school yest or today... psychiatrist yest... switching meds from ritalin 2x a day to concerta once a day. Maybe adding clonidine if the impulsivity is still bad.... Hope this works!! I don't want anymore bad reactions to any medicines!! why are they choosing to do another ritalin-based med (concerta) as opposed to something else? (not sure if you've posted before about what all you've tried). It stands to reason (at least, in MY mind) that if he's had a negative reaction to one ritalin based med, that the same would hold true for a different one.maybe it's the release mechanism for the ritalin SR and Ritalin LA that he's reacting to and the Concerta will help that?
I can't wait til next week; soccer starts and my son is going to be starting wrestling too; can you say TIRED BOY!!!???! I bet we will have NO PROBLEM getting him to go to sleep LOL!
I do think it is because of the release mechinism.... it seems like both ritalins just go right through him, he metabolizes everything sooo fast! So I believe that is why we are trying the Concerta. He hasn't had a bad reaction to the Ritalin yet, just the Adderall. It just seemed to not work for long is all.
I hope it helps! He really hasn't been too bad.... not at home anyway, school is a different story. (of course) Maybe by Monday he will be a little better! Crossing my fingers!
I wish my son would get interested in sports... he has done soccer and football, and didn't show much interest in either. He was kind of in his own little world for both. I have thought karate, and heard that is great for ADHD kids, so that will be my next thing I try for him!
Question..... Holden takes clonidine, does that help? That is our next step if in 2 wks the Concerta is not doing a lot... to add clonidine. Just curious about that, I haven't heard a whole lot about it, but I am new to this stuff!My son can't handle adderall xr, but does great on concerta. Others on the boards have said the same. It seems like they can't handle both, it is either one type or the other.
Good. Glad to hear that. I hope my son does great on it as well. I get worried, because I don't want to ever see him like he was with the Adderall, it was just horrible. My son in on Concerta and metabolizes it fast. we only get 7-8 hours and that is it. I am thinking of asking for an afternoon booster to get him through the afternoon/evening. other than that Concerta has been a lifesaver for us so far. It has only been 6 weeks and 2 on the 27mg dose. So far he is doing well.Iam not sure if they would give a booster of short acting Ritalin or what, I only want a couple hours out of it.Can you increase the dose? Remember the amount of mg doesn't matter age or size, it is the metabolism and where they are successful.
Try an increase, it may help!! You will know immediately, that day if it works!
Holden mainly takes the clonidine to help him sleep at night; and it works pretty well. BUT, he has to already be relaxed BEFORE we give it to him or else it is as if he doesn't take it. UGH! He takes it at bedtime and he's definitely much easier to deal with in the mornings so maybe it does help with the impulsivity.
xx fingers crossed xx that the Concerta works for you all!
Thank you! Third time is a charm, I hope! This will be the third med!
I hope it is for you, It was for us! Good Luck
Well..... started Concerta 1 wk ago.... this morning I got a phone call from the daycare at school..... he's being suspended from there for 3 days. He only goes a few times a week, but he really doesn't like it. Today he was throwing things at teachers and calling them names.
I just don't know what to do. I can't quit my job and keep him home, and his dad drives a truck, so he has to go to school and daycare a few days a week. He needs to get used to it and learn how to deal with it. He has no choice. We go back to the psychiatrist next Thurs, so I am guessing he will need the clonidine to help with stuff like this.
I just want to go somewhere and cry.
Did he start lower and work up to a 36mg?
the dose may not be high enough. We stopped at 54 then after a month ended up at 72mgs for several years.
The other question is do you feel that concerta is the right med? My son was horrible on adderall xr but is great with concerta.
Try working the doseage amount, increase it, and see what happens - you will know that day. If it isn't working positively, then try another med.
We also take guanfacine in addition to the concerta, it relaxes my son. A lot of adhd'ers have a co-existing like anxiety, depression, etc.
Call the doctor and look into an increase.
He was started with the 36mg, since he was already taking ritalin 20mg twice a day. He probably does need that increased.
It is our 3rd med, and so far I think it has been the best, but it has only been a week...his first was Adderrall but that was horrible for him too.
Maybe Thursday the psychiatrist will increase the Concerta and add something for his impulsiveness, which is what she said last week. She said she would probably try clonidine.
He definitely has some anxiety and anger issues, that is for sure. When he is mad, everyone around knows it.
he may be frustrated!! Our little ones are very smart, they just have something that they cannot control.
Do you need clonodine to sleep? My son had trouble at first, then it went away when he adjusted.
Ask about guanfacine, it is not like clonodine, which is strong. google it. It is also called tenex or guanfacine.
We have been on the combo since he was 7. T is now 11, almost 12!!
We would increase daily until he leveled off. The teacher would tell me how his day was, that is all. she never said to increase it, I don't think they are allowed to legally, not sure. but anyway, you can increase it immediately.
What about the daycare, you need their support!!
Most of the people at the daycare are "young adults" that don't really know quite how to deal with my son. Half the time I don't know quite how to deal with some of the stuff he does!
There has to be something or someone there that is setting him off. He usually gets upset by something and then it just escalates from there.
As for the sleep, he does have trouble going to sleep, but once he's out he's out. We use melatonin for that.
I just hope we get this right, the right meds for him and dosage and I hope it is soon, before he gets in more trouble.
Due to my son's speech delay, we went to an integrated preschool. He could NOT be kicked out. That is wrong what is happening unless he is hurting the other child.
If you have "young" "teachers", not sure if they are certified, then that is a problem. It is NOT fair to HIM, not his self esteem. At least you will have this right by the time he enters kindergarten. I can't stand having children labeled. It is wrong.
What is it that he does that gets him into trouble? Sorry, I hope I am not being too personal! 
This is just the before/after school care center at his school. He is in 1st grade, and his teacher has been working with us really good.
He was very grumpy when I dropped him off this morning, he did not want to go to daycare, he says he hates it. So I do believe the "teachers" there really don't know how to handle him. We may have to re-arrange schedules so that he doesn't have to go there, since it is becoming such an issue.
Today he was throwing things outside at them, and then starting calling them names. It usually starts with them telling him to do something he doesn't want to do. I don't think he thinks he has to listen to them. They are probably not much more than 10 yrs older than him, so maybe he doesn't see them as people he needs to listen to.
It seems once he is upset, it just escalates into name calling, throwing things, etc.. and then they call me to pick him up or to tell me he can't come back like today. They have no idea how to calm him down, and I don't think they want to either, they just want to get rid of him.
I know if it was me, i would find another daycare that cared about my child. they obviously don't.
go with your gut, on EVERYTHING!! Momma knows!
I know. I think I will just have to make it so I can take him every day and skip any before or after school care, at least until we get him feeling better, and able to control his anger/emotions.
I am definitely NOT happy with the center there at the school, and I will let people know about it too. Not just because of this, we had issues last year too, made me think they don't even watch the kids. I will be sure to bring that up when I see the director too. They definitely need to work on things there.
It sounds like there may be bigger issues going on at the school's daycare, but are the daycare issues only before school? I'm wondering if his meds are fully in his system. What time do you give him the meds, and what time do you drop him off?I have been giving him the meds when he wakes up. Usually around 6:15/6:30... and he is dropped off at 7:30. The psychiatrist said it could take 1 1/2 hrs to get in his system, the psychologist disagrees, but he doesn't know meds, that is why he doesn't prescribe them, right?? So I think the meds are not fully working yet..... but I don't know how early I can wake him either.... I am so lost.......
Mad at the daycare..... want to scream, cry, etc!!! I am just waiting for them to call me any minute now and I will have to leave work. Again.
And he has trouble after school there too. Just really depends on the day, and what has happened already. Seems like once you have upset him it is very hard to get him calmed down, and not so angry.
Since he had trouble this morning I am pretty sure he will this afternoon too. He will still be angry... after the whole day has passed... when I pick him up he will be angry, grumpy, mean faced, etc.....
I have a 9 yr. old son who started with Ritalin 3 yrs ago and has since been on Concerta for about a year. When he started the meds he also was diagnosed with a Learning Disability for reading and spelling. He was doing really bad in school not behavior wise just learning. We held him back in 2nd grade because he was so far behind the other children. He is now in 3rd grade and doing great. He takes Concerta in the morning about 6am and gets reading help everyday. BUT I am a school bus driver so we have to be out the door by 6:05am. He is completely out of control in the morning. I wake him along with my 14 yr old and 4 yr old around 5:15am. I have to constantly stay on him about getting dressed, brushing teeth, etc. He starts with the "I hate you", "I don't have to", "I wish you would die", just anything nasty he can think of to say. My husband works 2nd/3rd shift so he is sleeping in the morning, but gets up to assist after hearing the nasty things he says to me. I am pretty much at my wits end. After arriving at the bus station and starting my route he is a totally different child. Loveable, caring, helping, just a great, smart kid. And then we have evening time. Almost the same at night. He has a hard time falling asleep so I wonder if he just isn't getting enough sleep. PLEASE anyone with suggestions, I will take any help I can get. I would love to see happy mornings again :)My son is just like that at 10, and we put up with mornings as I do not wish to further drug him. You can get a short acting Ritalin or Focalin for the Am's before the Concerta kickes in, it takes 1 hour or so. like I said we just put up with it and if he is nasty he loses his computer and or game time that day. This has worked for us so far.My son can do that as well. He just wakes up in a bad mood, maybe tired, not sure. It doesn't go on all day, just the morning. Once his meds kick in and even when they wear off, he is not like that, just the morning. As far as the morning routine goes...I too can relate and find that the less spoken, the better. The whole dynamic of ADHD includes being less tolerant of yelling, loud noises etc. at least for my son. I find that if I repeat my request (to get dressed for instance) or am reactive to nasty statements, "I hate you," etc...matters quickly go downhill. What's worked for us is immediate consequences for the behavior (which is so hard!). I let my son watch a bit of TV in the mornings, but if he doesn't get dressed or brush his teeth in a somewhat timely fashion...that time is taken away. You may have to put up with the tantrum a few times, but they slowly learn.
My son is like a different child in the mornings too, when he wakes up, especially on school mornings. But after about an hour he is fine. I think we will just deal with it as well, and ignore as much as we can, because I don't want to add more stimulants the the Concerta he has started taking.
How does he seem on weekends? It's possible he needs a short-acting dose in the morning to get him through daycare. Then he could take the long-acting dose later in the morning and hopefully that would get him through the rest of the day. Or, maybe this daycare isn't a good fit for him? Are there any other options for before or after-school care?
I know, I wonder that myself. It is very clear he does not like to go there. It has to be the "teachers" or another kid that is doing something to "set him off".
He is not going this week, except for maybe Friday....depending on how his days go at school without going to the daycare first.
We go back to the psychiatrist Thurs, so I will see what she says as well. If I have to change my schedule a little to make things better for him than that is what I will have to do.
I wish I could be a fly on the wall down there! My son insists he did not call them names like they say... he says they heard him wrong. Usually he will just tell us if he has called someone a bad name. He hasn't lied about it before. Makes me wonder if they are adding things to what really happened because they don't want to deal with him.
As for weekends, he has been doing pretty good. I haven't had any major problems with him these last 2 weekends. He really has been pretty good actually.
We don't really have any other options for the before/after school care right now, he only has to go a few mornings a week and 2 afternoons. I am thinking we will have to give him more medicine or I will just have to change my schedule a little bit.
yes, something is going on, he isn't telling you.
Is he being bullied, picked on, even molested ( sorry to mention it, I just want him to be safe), etc or something like it from someone, whether adult or child.
Unfortunately so many things have happened at daycares, that you have to keep an eye on your child. I am glad he is not there this week. See if his behavior is better, that is the key!!
Seems like it.... I think it's probably the bullying... either from another kid or kids, or a teacher, or both. Once my son is sad or mad it is very hard to get him calmed down. His "real" teacher is much better with him, and is working with us and him, and the lead teacher of the school, etc.
Daycare just wants to get rid of him. Well they may just get what they want. If there was nothing going on there then he wouldn't be so mad and upset about going. He's never had a problem like this before... not wanting to go somewhere like that.
I hope YOU get rid of them, and don't forget to tell your friends, if you know what I mean!!
The best advertising is word of mouth!! Spread the word!!
I think that I will be getting rid of them. It's just a few months... of school left... so hopefully my work won't get too mad that I need to change my schedule a little bit. If they do... oh well.. my kids come first.
I do know what you mean, and trust me... I will not go away quietly!!
Good mama bear!!
He needs you, you are one of the few that will fight for him, remember that!!
Stay strong!!
I will, thank you!!
I wonder how THEY are treating your son. Maybe he doesn't like it because they are mean to him and he lets them know how he feels about it by being unhappy, etc.
I am starting to question the daycare. He has no problems in school, but both before and after school at the daycare. I tend to think they are his problem.
I will be interested to hear what happened at the appointment. My son has been seing a psychologist for behavior therapy for the past year, but next Thurs he is going to a Child psychiatrist. I can't wait to see what they think. If he has something completely different, something in addition to the ADHD, or what. His pediatrician hasn't done much but change medicine, I think because she does not specialize in ADHD.
Good luck, hope it goes well!
Well... it baffles the doctor (he's the father of one of my son's preschool friends....)
What we're going to do is REDUCE the dosage from 30mg of Vyvanse to 20mg of Vyvanse to see if we get less rebound in the afternoon (we'll just deal with the AM fussiness, which I think is partially attributed to his poor sleeping habits).
If this works, we'll stick with it ... if things get worse than what they are now (please please I hope they don't!) we'll bump the dose up to 40mg. If that doesn't help, we might have to switch meds. UGH!
We're also UPPING the Clonidine to .2mg @ night to see if that helps him sleep.
He was 43lbs and 47in .... :)
Thanks all, I hope the reduction in meds help.... I HOPE XX FINGERS CROSSED XX
After the emotional, weepy, crying behaviors CONTINUING (and really, it's been happening more and more within the past month, but it's happening every day now...), I called our pediatrician (whom I highly respect) and scheduled an appointment. I'm taking my son in this morning to see what the doctor says about it. I'm debating whether or not to give him his meds this morning, just to see if I see a difference, but I think I'm going to go ahead and give it to him, because he will be going to school after the appointment. (they haven't noticed any problems at school, so it is definitely just an @ home thing).
Maybe my son needs to see a psychologist or something?
But anyways, I'll update later
Oh my gosh!! I have so much trouble with my son in the mornings, of course only the mornings he has school and has to get ready. The weekends are a different story. This morning was horrible. He takes Ritalin SR 20 in the mornings, and Ritalin LA 20 about 11:45, since he metabolizes the meds so quickly.
But my goodness, I am not sure what the deal is, guessing he is such a devil because all the medicine has worn off before he wakes up. I don't know what to do anymore! This morning he was name calling, hitting me, throwing things, I was just wondering when the demons would come out!
One minute he was acting like a devil/monster, and the next he was crying like a baby! By the time we were in the car on the way to school thank goodness he had calmed down.
Anyone have any advice for this type of behavior in the mornings??? Besides ripping your hair out, which is what I feel like doing!!!
frstrtdmomof139876.4781597222Does he like school? Is anything going on there with friends? How old??
We give meds while he is still asleep so when he awakes he is good to go!
Weekends we are a bit more relaxed, but he takes them!
My boy is 6 yrs old... almost 7. In 1st grade, loves his teacher, has friends, etc, but it's just the getting up and getting ready thing we are having so much trouble with.
It happens on a daily basis too, except weekends, when he can get dressed, brush his hair and teeth and eat whenever he wants.
I might have to give the meds before he actually gets out of bed, that will probably help! I don't want to have many more mornings like this one! I always feel so bad, because unfortunately I get upset because we are on a schedule and we have to leave by a certain time.
It's definitely hard to forget to give him his medicine when he acts this way, that is for sure!
Thank you Bethann! My son is on his 2nd stimulant medication for his ADHD, and I am still trying to understand everything! I am amazed at how he is before/after taking his medication.
This message board is great!
Thanks Again!
Glad to see I wasn't the only one having this problem in the mornings!
I've not heard of it, but there are lots to chose from. Best wishes!!I wish I had an answer for Bethann's post on the morning routine. I too am struggling with what I now call the "three ring circus" which is my morning. I have two children 11 and 6. The youngest has ADHD and was diagnosed very young. I find it difficult to use any of the methods that experts say will ease the routine...reward charts, stickers, positive reinforcement etc. as most charts end up getting swiped off of the refrigerator, ripped up or disregarded with statements like, "I don't care!" And my patience is so thin after repeating requests, herding him from one task to the other or simply trying to get him to focus on one simple task (like eating a bowl of cereal). I spend at least 75% of the morning reminding him not to chase the cat, tease his sister, etc. He takes 2 doses of Ritalin, once after breakfast and once after lunch. Since I go to work and don't see him until evening, all effects are long gone and I'm left to deal with a very angry, weepy and anxious little boy. Soooo, I can relate and need advice!not bethann, adhdkidsarecool's the mom!!asdkidsarecool... I hope it works! I will keep my fingers crossed too!
I am just glad to see it seems like a common thing for mornings to be like a circus!
My guess is that it is because the meds have worn off overnight, and haven't had a chance to work yet, that is why mornings are so tough. What to do about it is what I haven't figured out yet.
Giving meds before he gets up might work if I could get him to take it and then sleep for a little longer, but I don't see that happening, and then his schedule will just get messed up, which causes more trouble!!
I guess we have to use trial and error, and ask as many questions of everyone we can, and see what finally works for our child, as all are different!
Good Luck to everyone! We will get through it!!
Just remember how good/sweet they can be! They are definitely worth it!