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Sounds just like my son - and it sounds just like a friend of mine'sdaughter with autism, and another's son who has no diagnosis and was
never referred for one.
Parent to parent, I'd say follow your gut. If you can get testing done, get
it done. If it turns out to be negative, great - that's a whole bunch of
things you can take right off your plate when researching things to help
your daughter. If it turns out positive, great - you'll be able to narrow
your search for a solution.
Lots of techniques that parents of ADHD kids use to help their children
develop their social skills can be used effectively with any child. The
marble technique (like Harry Potter House Points) that is pinned is a great
technique. So is the plan outlined in the book The Explosive Child, which
teaches kids to be less impulsive and more empathic, and gives them a
sense of control over their lives by giving them a plan of action when
things don't go the way they expected them to.
Good luck with your family!anyone
the problem I have is that she can be well behaved one day and then the next a nightmare.
she can do her homework one day quite happily but then the next kick and scream and cry and run out of the house down the street.
she is aggressive towards her brother usually to annoy him, will get cross at him and kick him, punch etc. has even smacked him on the heads with a hard shoe leaving a dent, run upto another girl for no reason and pushed her hard through her back door although those things are the extreme and not happen very often.
she has always put herself down and even expresses the wants to die and will be over dramatic about homework, doesn't care if you take all her toys away etc
sometimes i think i am imagining these things because she can be a pleasure
Yesterday I spoke to a learnig mentor at the school who said
she spoke to dh teacher and was told that her teacher is very strict and keeps a tight rein on the children but even she is finding dh hard to deal with, also found out that dh is sitting on the decking in the playground with no friends then taking herself to the medical room and saying she has bumped her head just to spend time with a really nice teacher as she only has one friend.
she has been like this since age 4
Also school have sent this letter to our GP, it reads:
'DD behaviour is very changeable in class. At times she concentrates well and interacts with others positively. At other times she ignores instructions and distracts and is distracted by other pupils, even when told not to.
DD is quite possessive of her friends and always wants to sit with them and play with them even if instructed not to.
DD has some issues in the playground. She plays rough games and is over physical with other children. Even when she has been instructed to undertake a different activity, she will ignore members of staff and continue being rough or over physical.
Generally, staff dealing with DD need to be firm and give her clear guidelines to follow'
we have also sent a report to Gp
any comments please would be nice, does this seem typical of an adhd child in class.
ladybumble40343.5102199074Has anyone else experienced this
Well the gp has reffered DD so does that mean he agrees with our and schools concerns? or do they just refer anyway
DD has thrown me out this week as she is actually being good at home lol, which is a good thing i know but then we start to question wether there is anything wrong or just us not parenting very well, this happened before so we never got her reffered but i am just confused.
Although she seems to be making up more and more lies/stories such as she said she is getting exra help with maths from the learning mentor and I asked her and she had no idea what i was talking about and DD said she said it to make us proud of her and i told her we were proud of her and that she made us worried there was something else wrong and that she should always tell the truth.
She also told me the teachers brought tents with them yesterday to the country park, (as the class went on a school trip) for them all to sit in and that a boy bought a birthday cake along and everyone got two peices each but then she said she had just made it up, we havent told her off just worried why she tells so many tall stories, seems to be all the time, every day.
This is a good thing that she is behaving at home but it makes me question wether she is actually ok or just having a good week
Luvmykids0240347.2055439815
Yes, the behaviors you're describing sound typical of ADHD! They could also be from a number of other disorders so definitely get an evaluation and proper diagnosis to be sure what you're dealing with.
Some of the behaviors you mentioned sound just like my son! One of the major symptoms of ADHD is impulsive behavior. My son acts first and thinks later (when he's not medicated). Without meds he absolutely cannot control most of his behavior because he's soooooo impulsive.
He also has Sensory Integration Disorder and one symptom for him is that he seeks out "deep pressure". This makes him "crash" into things and knock other kids over because it feels good to him (he's 5). It's not that he's trying to be mean, he just doesn't realize what he's doing is wrong.
Also, ADHD kids are capable of focusing at times. Just because they can focus sometimes doesn't mean they aren't ADHD. If she's having trouble focusing on a consistant basis (even if it's not all the time) then it sounds like ADHD. When my son does actually focus, he "hyper focuses" and trying to pry him away from whatever he's doing is a nightmare!
With my son, Occupational Therapy (for the sensory issues), medication, and behavior techniques have literally saved him! He's a happy kid now...and so are mom and dad! 
We have a saying in our house. The martians came and dropped off the good child, wonder how long til they bring the other one back.
Our 10 yr old son can be like your daughter. He has good weeks and bad weeks. He can be so good for weeks on end and then turn into a child that has nightly meltdowns and is almost impossible to deal with. When he gets this way, it doesn't matter what you take away from him or what punishment you threaten him with. He just has to work through it. We have learned that, on some things, we just have to let him work through it and discuss it when he is in a mood where you can reason with him. At that point we dish out the punishment.
He is on medication for adhd and another one for his behavior/mood swings. He has also been diagnosed with ODD. The medication does help. Without it he gets in trouble at school and winds up in the principals office. Unfortunately, it has never completely solved what we see at home. In fact, one time we took a video of one of his meltdowns during homework to the doctor and he couldn't believe it because he has never seen anything but good behavior from him.
Anyway, the meds don't completely solve the problem but they have certainly helped. Also, there is bipolar in his medical history and we tend to believe that he has it. However, he has never been diagnosed with it. I hope this helps you.
BryansMom40349.0900578704thanks Bryansmumthat is really helpful, that is exactly what she is like, she can be good for ages and then we think perhaps we have been to hasty to ask for help, then she will have a bad week and realise she cant keep it up
like i said she is struggling to make friends at the moment aswell and can feel quite depressed and talk down about herself but then 10 mins later she will be playing loudly in her room, all of it forgotten
anyone It's when they are so easy going that you think everythings OK. Then they
do something so alarming and at that moment you know something is just
not right. Listen to you intuition. well i think i spoke to soon, she did do her homework but had to be pushed to do it and afterwards we sat down with her and said we wanted to do some maths with her as we hadn't done any with her for a whie, she refused and it seems she will do the bare minimum asked of her but nothing more, she doesnt care if she is does well at school or fails
For some reason I'm not getting my email notifications so I didn't realize you posted a question!
It would seem that your gp at least thinks there may be some issues with your daughter or he/she wouldn't have referred her to a specialist. I doubt he would refer you if he didn't agree that she needs further evaluation.
ADHD behaviors are very cyclical. Even on medication, my son's behavior gets better and worse for no apparent reason. Your daughter is probably trying very hard to hold herself together and "be good" but she can only make it work for a short period of time then it becomes impossible! It is very very common that ADHD kids will seem "fine" one moment (or day, or week) then go right back to the bad behaviors.
Definitely go to the specialist! They should be able to give you an accurate diagnosis and start you on the road to getting some help! 
Sounds a lot like my son. As someone said earlier, the impulsiveness causes so many of the problems. Last night my wife asked my son if he felt different when he doesn't take his vitamins (we don't medicate). He said that when he doesn't take his vitamins he "just does something without thinking about it like annoying ....(his brother). I just do it and then figure out that I will get in trouble after. When I take my vitamins I think about it first." It was very revealing to say the least and the first time he has ever described it in those words.we have had some positive news this morning, the senco from the school
rang to say she felt GP hadn't reffered her right as he didnt ask me why
i wanted her reffered and didnt want details so i think he misunderstood
and thought it was general misbehaviour, anyway she is writing a letter
back today to ask the gp to refer dd to the peadiatrician to
assess her for ADHD, so hopefully things could start moving.
Hubby actually got the infomation wrong, Child and family services have seen her case and declined it bacause i ahven't done a parenting course ( i am half way through one at the moment, and have been on although not completed 2 in the past 3 years)
they said the school needs to update a CAF form? havent a clue what that is and thst they should get an educational phycologist to asses her learning needs and then they will look at her case again.
Problme is me and especially hubby are getting very stressed over her behaviour and yesterday he had a meltdown and was screaming at her saying her hated her etc and then we had a row too.
its our annivesary today and he has made himself ill with a sore throat and cold with the shouting and stress so we aren't going out tonight.
we are going to have a family meeting and talk to the kids and se if we can come up with a disciplinary plan altogether and talk things out. well she has been referred to child and family services, but they have said IF they take on her case it will be 8-9 weeks till they see her for the initial appointment I know those weeks can seem like forever when you need help!
Hang in there! Just do whatever you have to do to get through until the apointment hopefully they can give her come relief soon!what time should a 7 year old be in bed, my daughter is up now every night till at least 9pm but wakes up tired and yawning.also do children with adhd understand thier bodies i.e sexually and do they not get embarrassed, i ask this as my daughter has always rubbed herself from around the age of 2 and will do it when she is engrossed in a program she likes but also she will show her bits and sometimes touch herself in front of OH who will tell her off and say to her it is dirty etc but she has no shame.
The bedtime for each kid is probably different but if she's waking up tired then it sounds like it should be earlier. If she's having trouble falling alseep you may want to try Melatonin. It's an over-the-counter supplement that helps my son tremendously when it comes to getting drowsy and falling asleep.
ADHD kids are usually impulsive and touching themselves can be a part of that. Before we got my son's medication right he was always grabbing/holding himself. I was constantly asking if he needed to go to the restroom but he always said no. Now that his meds are working he still does it but not nearly as often. I think it just feels good and when he's feeling particularly impuslive that's what he does!
my daughter seems to have no inhabitions at all, today on the way home from school she open her dress (it has poppers down the front) and pulled it off down her shoulders and to her knickers, she did put it back on but doesnt ever get embarrassed. she also did a sexy dance against a lamp post and was licking it.
when she was younger she used to pick up chewing gum from the floor and eat it! disgusting and she still puts things near or in her mouth.
just wondered
my daughter sat her SAT's for y2 and we got her scores on friday, she did well, with an average of 2b's whicj is normal for her age, but i wondered if anyone could tell me how she achieved that when i am being told her strict teacher can barely keep her on task and she lacks concentration. don't get me wrong i am pleased but it just baffled me
i just wanted to ask if adhd children can have autistic traits too and are they similar.
the reason i ask this is because at a meeting today with the learning mentor at my daughters school ( the learning mentor deals with autistic, adhd and other behavioural children) i asked her what she thought she saw in my daughter and the first thing she said was autistic traits because i had mentioned that my daughter will do innapropriate things like pull her dress up to show her knickers, breasts, she will try to copy a sexy dance like lady gaga, and say things like sexing and also rub herselfr while watching tv
?????
Most of our kids can't focus or stay on task on a regular basis but they are able to stay on task sometimes. Many times it comes and goes and they really have no control over it. Other times if they are in a situation that's new and exciting they can focus. Or sometimes if they're doing something that interests them they can do it. The key is consistancy. Some ADHD kids (like mine) rarely stay on task ever and others can do it sometimes but they just can't do it consistantly.
About the autism question: Yes, I think many times the symptoms can look similar to ADHD. The only way to know for sure is get a thorough evaluation and diagnosis from someone that you trust. I'm not that familiar with autism so I'm sorry I don't have much advice about it. 
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