Call the public health office of your town, city, etc. There is always a way to be seen by a doctor and prescribed meds (or given the meds) if you truly can't afford it.
Thanks for the help guys. I found a link to the public health office in my county but i think i will just wait until i get some money. I really don't feel comfortable having that kind of stuff being a matter of record. Id rather just pay the cash and get evaluated by a normal quack then perhaps get a perscript. Dilenger438362.7201273148Thirty one year old male. Got left back in second grade pretty much failed out of every grade since, high school wasen't much better, dropped out senior year.So, I'll reduce my fee, for you, to 5 for the intial consultation, and 5 for the follow-up sessions.
Way cheaper to go to a real doctor. Adderall cannot be shipped via mail, even with a prescription. Offshore pharmacies are well known to the FDA and Customs people. Your drugs will get confiscated and you will get a legal citation. Adderall is just not that great anyway. Ritalin is the way to go for your first med.
Yes a agree a regular doctor would probably be much cheaper. The guy that i linked to in my previous post has a private practice in NYC so that explains his high fees. My only problem with going to a real doctor is does he know anything about ADHD medications? I kinda feel funny calling a reg doc to say i need help with ADHD. goalkeeper8 i can't see how you would say that he is not a real doctor. Read his credentials. Reducing a fee means nothing. I also don't appreciate you telling me that i am a fake. Oh so what you are a doctor now? Then what would explain my cognative impairment early in life? Also if i am a fake and only want drugs to get high then why have a been spending hours online researching alternative drugs like Adrafinil and Modafinil that are alot safer then taking speed like ritilan? I think i would be more of a fake if i just went to the doctor and said give me this because............Hey Dilenger - Some folks are just plain cynical about everything and everyone. Don't let it get to you. These meds are a walking paradise to drug users, etc., and I'm sure they have had some of them come on these boards during their duration. Don't take it personally. I, for one, never thought you were a fake, just looking for a shortcut. Unfortunately, there are none. Will help in any way I can. Have a good one!
Linda
LRM21638385.3898726852"This country also has a long history of taking what they call "drugs" like l-tryptophan"
Actually it was killing people that's why it was removed.
The idea you ahve to fail ins school to have ADD is ludicrous. I have a 3.48 GPA at a community college. I have mostly taken things I like. I still doodled, shook, wandered all through my mental world while sitting in class bored to tears watching the clock....so what if i took the exam and finished in 30 minutes and got a A. My IQ is 137. I am not a genius but damn it is community college...
As to wanting meth or ritalin. I assume you mean generic ritalin when you say meth not Crank. Adderal is actually the much stronger stimulant containing 4 amphetamine salts. If snorted or shot it would give a BIG charge and has more street value.
As to drug addicts having no respect... ADD and substance abuse go like Mom and Apple Pie. In the general population the incidence is 10%. In ours it is much higher. Denial is one of the primary symptoms of addiction. Generally, the Addict is the last one to know they have a problem. It's a disease. No one wakes up one day and says I am going to be a crackhead or an alcoholic. In the Addictive brain the abuse becomes as intrinsic to the addict's daily life as breathing. I got help 20 yrs ago for it. No shame in asking for help. If the guy is fishing for for speed it's a crappy pool to be looking in.
I will take the man at face value... someone said go see a DR. If he doesn't want to do that so be ity but, he wont get help if he has ADD till he does because that most definetely was a scam someone was running on him...class2 drugs are not sent via the mail nor can they be called in to a pharmacy....both good things
[quote]Dilenger4-"This country also has a long history of taking what they call "drugs" like l-tryptophan (which have been clearly shown to alleviate certian aliments) off the market so they can turn a profit at the expense of others. If my memory serves me corectly oct 89 l-tryptophan was pulled and then march of 90 a full ban with prozac making the cover of news week four days later. Coincidental? I don't want to get into a debate though."
HUH!? That's a whole different topic and you missed the point!
Dilenger4-"The papers only stated observations. "He has an inability to concentrate" "He is esaly distracted" If i took meds in the past then i would be able to just look up what the drug is generaly used to treat and self diagnose."
Well now we are getting somewhere. You kind of hit this one on the nail and saw where I was coming from. If you where taking medication you would know what to look up to see what the problem was. But no medication was given. So what do you have to go by? A statement that state theres an inability to concentrate and be distracted written back in the fourth grade. Your 31. Time to get rechecked. Who made these statements? Teachers or Dr's?
Dilenger4-"Correct. That's why i didn't go run to the doctor or health services right away to get adderall like some suggested."
WHAT!? Adderall? The purpose to go see a DR. or visit the health services is get diagnosed. This will give you the power to research the drugs that can be beneficial for you. You just don't walk in a DR's office and state you have ADHD please write me a perscription of Adderall. It doesn't work that way my friend. Your statement implies that you will self diagnose yourself. That's scary and can be unproductive. You have done what many of us have and you came to the conclusion through research that you have syptoms of ADHD. Now it's time to validate those conclusion by visiting a DR. or health services.
Let me ask you something. Would it be wrong for someone to claim they have ADHD if they where never diagnosed?
Dilenger4-"If i was looking for a drug that has the same effects as Ritalin and Adderall then i would not have mentioned Adrafinil and Modafinil both of which have no side effects. I don't see the logic in your arguements. If i wanted to obtain some sort of stimulant i would simply go to the doctor and get it. By me not doing that and researching meds that are legal to purchase and have no adverse side effects then obviously i am not simply trying to get high."
I take it you really didn't read the links I posted. Again you are missing the point. There are cheaper drugs to take and more easily available to get if you want to get high. Who wants to spend over 0.00 for 30 pills of Adderall or Ritaliin or any ADHD drug when there are cheaper street drugs? Go smoke pot if you want to get high! There are cheaper and stronger stimulants. Those abusing ADHD medication are using it to focus and concentrate. Most of those that abuse it are college students cramming for test or have hard classes and what some brain power boost. The sad thing is that these kids are smart kids trying to see if the drug will make them smarter. They are already getting good grades but the pressure to keep them good is the motivation to seek these drugs. For them the less side effects the better. If it's not a stimulant even better. No one wants to be a junkie. I think you want the medication with out a perscription so that you can focus better in school. Other wise you would go see a DR or health services.
I also want to let everyone know that I did not mean to imply that you had to be dumb in school to have ADHD. Although I can see how that was perceived. Albert Einstein was to be believed to have ADHD.
Dilenger4-Go see some medical help. I really would like to see you get on the right track. You will never be an official member of the ADHD club until you do. Post and let me know when you do until then I am going to continue to believe you are a college student trying to get your hands on drugs you are not entitled to.
Side note. It's 1:15 central time and I can not get to sleep. I have to be at work at 7:30AM. Funny thing is that I never get tired. Bored off my kazu. I'm on 40mg Adderall XR.
the dietary supplement was killing people because of impurities. I think it was the late 80s or early 90s it was a pretty big news story. Something like 20 people died as i recall. The Supplement Industry is largely self regulated like th AMA...self policing doesn't work that's how we ended up with an FDA for drugs. IMO most supplements use loopholes to avoid the scurtiny OTC medications recieve. It is a regular thing to find foriegn chemicals, toxins, non listed drugs in imported supplaments. If the supplement Industry submitted to real federal regualtion allowing the verification of contents and formula consistancy I wouldn't be so "anti"....but, they don't meaning alot of the crap sold is snake oil IMO. I don't mean name brand vitamins they have a pretty good record. I mean all the miracle cures that make outrageous claims backed up by non scientific studies or distorted statisical reporting.goalkeeper8 thank you for posting the links but i am not sure why you are pointing me to sources of information i am already aware of. Stimulants have been used for a boost for a long long time. From the jazz great charlie parker soaking a benzedrine strip in his coffee to the mathematic genuis paul erdos who ingested ritalin from 1971 until he died in 1996. Now i am not saying that i condone the use of speed especially by people who are not intectually challenged but who am i to judge? The people to blame are the ones who created the environment which was conducive to the use of speed. [quote]Dilenger if you are for real then you have my apology. But I want you to take a look at the statements you made in your posting to understand where I am coming from. Because it does not make sense. As a law biding citizen I will not sit hear with out giving someone my strong comments about beating the system by breaking the law. This country has had a long drug problem with various drugs being abused in cluding ADHD medication. If someone on this board knows a way to get ADHD with out a perscription and will post that information be informed that I will turn that information in to be investigated by the proper authorities.
Let's take a look at your statements. "I was diagnosed with some sort of learning disability in forth grade and was placed in special classes from 4th till senior year of high school but the term ADD or ADHD was never used."
What learning disability where you diagnosed with? How do you know if you have ADHD or ADD? If you took medication in the past then you would know the name of the learning disability. Your parents should know what learning disability you have.
Dilenger4-"being thirty one and still living at home in my parents basement " Suggestion- go upstairs and ask them what your disability is. Now, I don't doubt you may have a learning disability. But there are other learning disabilities other then ADHD.
Dilenger4-"I graduated from a local computer technical school about four years back and while i did very well (graduated with a 3.5 gpa) i knew i was going to need additional schooling if i was ever to get a job in engineering."
Wow! 3.5 is a honor roll student. Deans list and at a computer technical school at that. Congratulations and good job! But that does not sound like an ADHD student.
Dilenger4-"So now i am attending a local community college and trying to obtain a degree in mathematics. While i am doing quite well so far (3.4 gpa) it's getting tougher and my ability to concentrate is waning."
Again congratulations at getting a 3.4 GPA in mathmetics!! So it's getting tougher and it's harder to concentrate. Welcome to college! It's hard for the normal Joe and it seems impossible for ADHD sufferers. Are you sure you have a learning disability with these kind of grades? Are you sure you have ADHD?
Most of those on this forum may laugh and wonder why someone would want to get their hands on ADHD medication when other street drugs are available. I am enclosing some links for you to review.
Dilenger4-"goalkeeper8 i can't see how you would say that he is not a real doctor. Read his credentials. Reducing a fee means nothing. I also don't appreciate you telling me that i am a fake. Oh so what you are a doctor now?"
First of all if he is a DR then placing his fees to draw you in is unprofessional. That's my opinion. He made no mention to state that perscription drugs with out a perscription is illegal. An ethical DR would have tried to discourage you from trying to get a perscription illegally rather then quickly throw up his discounted rate. He even threw it up in bold letters with a bigger font! you call that real DR.! Money money money is what he sees. Now, I am not a DR. but I have ADHD so I know enough to recognize symptoms of ADHD.
Dilenger4-"Also if i am a fake and only want drugs to get high then why have a been spending hours online researching alternative drugs like drafinil and Modafinil that are alot safer then taking speed like ritilan?"
Well...maybe because you are looking for that magic drug that has the same effects as Ritalin and Adderall with out a perscription. I don't know why you are spending so much time looking for these drugs that you can't get with out a perscription or a visit to the DR to get diagnosed. You obviously are working very hard to try and get a hold of something illegally! Those that are using ADHD drugs illegally are not using them to get high. You don't get high on steroids but yet people are still getting them illegally for other benefits. Same with ADHD drugs.
Dillenger4-"I think i would be more of a fake if i just went to the doctor and said give me this because............"
Actually Dillenger4 that is the right way to do it. You would then be joining the rest of us by getting properly diagnosed and getting a perscription legally. You still don't know if you have ADHD but yet you are adimant to get the drugs illegally.
Where there's a will there's a way. My fear is that you will get a hold of ADHD medication illegally such as Ritalin or Adderall and give it to those that do not have ADHD. Perhaps even try and make a profit. Read the links I gave you and go see a DR. If you have any learning disability and you are for real. Then you have my apology.
Links-
http://www.thedailyaztec.com/news/2004/10/26/City/Students.U se.Add.Drugs.To.Gain.Edge-780889.shtml
http://www.neurodudes.com/archives/000087.html
http://www.dailypennsylvanian.com/vnews/display.v/ART/416e13 20b45d6
http://www.mtv.com/onair/dyn/truelife/episode.jhtml?episodeI D=73056
http://www.13wmaz.com/news/statewide_headlines.aspx?storyid= 10668
http://www.shns.com/shns/g_index2.cfm?action=detail&pk=A DDERALL-01-30-05
http://www.topix.net/drug/ritalin
What self-respecting drug user would want adderall. Ritalin or Meth but adderall?First of all, no drug user (in the sense that we are speaking of "drug-abuser") is self-respecting! If they were, they wouldn't have addictions. And, yes, they will even resort to Adderal.
Yeah that's because you know it's illegal to purchase adderall with out a perscription. It is the most misused drug among college students and they are always looking for away to get their hands on it with out a perscription. I think you are attempting to purchase Adderall illegally and you know it! This site is for those are suffering from ADHD.
The cost of Adderall is very expensive 30 day supply around 0.00 but your physiciatrist will give you a free on month sample from Shire on your first visit. But you won't go will you!?
For those reading this reply I would not attempt to help this person since he is not willing to help himself by visiting the public health service. Theres nothing to be ashamed of by having ADHD. There is something to be ashamed of you get caught trying to purchase adderall with out a perscription and I hope you are not attempting to try and get your hands on adderall with the intent to resell. That's what we call a drug dealing.
You wrote:So now i am attending a local community college and trying to obtain a degree in mathematics. While i am doing quite well so far (3.4 gpa) it's getting tougher and my ability to concentrate is waning.
Doesn't sound like you have ADHD or ADD. Your a fake!
Wow, it must be fun to be physic goalkeeper.I don't need to be a phsychic to know when there are fools out there trying to break the law. If it walks like a duck then it's duck. If I am not mistaken you made this comment:
So, I'll reduce my fee, for you, to 5 for the intial consultation, and 5 for the follow-up sessions.
Way cheaper to go to a real doctor. Adderall cannot be shipped via mail, even with a prescription. Offshore pharmacies are well known to the FDA and Customs people. Your drugs will get confiscated and you will get a legal citation. Adderall is just not that great anyway. Ritalin is the way to go for your first med.
Reduce your fees? The problem is your not a real DR.
Sounds like you have done some research about this topic as well.
Hang in there Dilenger4. Please call the public health board in your city and don't let pride goeth before a fall. Any information you give them does not become "public knowledge." There is a HIPPA law that does not allow that to happen. There you can get the exact same help you could receive with private insurance. They are the very same doctors that those with insurance would use. They just volunteer their time each week. They will assist you and put in touch with a psychiatrist, or psychologist, who will then send you to the psychiatrist for the prescription. (Psychologists cannot dispense medications, only md's can. You will pay on either a sliding scale (which is only what you can afford to pay) or they will treat you for free. Almost every psychiatrist can handle ADHD related problems. And for goodness sake, stop right now being ashamed of it. You are in very good company. There are millions of adults and children of well grounded adults that have this condition. I, in fact, work with a brilliant attorney who is ADHD and medicates daily for it. More people have it and are being treated for it then you can even imagine. Please - do something and don't wait. I care.