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Definitely a bad fit. The teacher's lack of organization certainly is causing lots of stress.

Starting this and every Friday morning I would send an email to the teacher with a CC to the principal asking what the assignments are, when they are due, and whether your son has fallen behind on any of them. Keep the sent email and resend it on Monday if she does not respond, but include the entire 504 team. Save the sent email. On Tuesday morning if she does not respond resend the email, but include the superintendent.

As far as the 504 it needs to be modified to also include ADHD and some accommodations: each time an assignment is given of any type, the teacher must have your son record it in an assignment log (due date, detailed description), and she initials. It is not his job to make sure this gets done. He gets "X" extra days for all assignment without a penalty. Specify the days. He gets extra time for all tests, until they are complete. At the end of each week the teacher will send an email or note if he is behind on anything. He will not be excluded from the introduction of a new project in order to finish another. Assignments will be reduced as needed. This all gets WRITTEN in the 504. If she doesn't do these things, then you just email her requesting the info and copy the entire 504 team.

I think that you should carefully evaluate this: "However, when it comes to assignments where he has to organize thoughts, be creative, etc, he freezes, and ends up doing nothing." Get one of those 4th grade state writing test examples off the internet, and have him take it. See for yourself if he can or cannot organize his thoughts. If he cannot, step back and reconsider where you want to go with this situation.

As far as the workload not decreasing if he switches to a regular 4th grade class, my suspicion is hogwash. Find a 4th grade parent from one of those classes and asks lots of detailed questions. Spend a day in a regular 4th grade class.

Consider an afternoon booster pill.

I personally don't think that having close friends in class is important. They socialize during recess and lunch at school, not during class. Meeting new kids at his age is a good thing anyway.

Just put that disturbing writing thing out of your head. I mean seriously, does her irrational opinion on this topic have any bearing on anything? If she brings it up, just uh-huh and change the subject.

I'm sure her concern about his grades being in the upper 80s has lots to do with her being motivated to get him out of the class rather than any rational analysis.

Also, I'm pretty sure that it is not uncommon for ADHD kids to be bright enough for an accelerated pace, but not a good fit for the pressure and the speed. Maybe someone else on the board has personal input on this topic.

Jessica N40491.8926388889Wow. I think this teacher was really negligent in her communication with you to say the least. If the teacher is aware of your son's ADHD and this is all she has done to address the issues, she is negligent in that area also, in my opinion.
Here are a few ideas in no particular order:
. Contact the person who is in charge of your son's 504 plan to see about adding accommodations for ADHD. At my daughter's school, all that was needed was a paper from the doctor with her diagnosis listed. Ask for a meeting ASAP because this is a crisis situation, and come up with a list of accommodations that you believe will help your son. (You can google ADHD accommodations for ideas).
. Ask the school, in writing, to evaluated your son so that it can be determined if he qualifies for an IEP (or 504) for ADHD and/or other learning disabilities.
. It sounds like you don't believe that moving your son to a "regular" class is the best option for him, but maybe find out more about what the other classes are like so you can better determine what is the best fit for him.
. Call the Principal and explain exactly what the situation is and ask for a meeting with all parties to get a plan in place for your son.
. As long as your son remains in the class with this teacher, document everything, and communicate with the teacher in writing so that you have evidence if/when there is a problem, because it sounds like this teacher is acting unprofessionally.
. Would it be possible to adjust your son's medication, add a booster in the afternoon when he gets home that might make the homework less of a struggle?

Best of luck. Hopefully some others will post to offer ideas.

Oh, I so feel for you. It's disheartening to have the conversation with the teacher and think things are going well only to get dumped on when it's too late to fix it. My fourth grader's teacher is frustrated that he can't remember to come to her at the end of the day to pick up his daily report card. Well, if he could remember that, he probably wouldn't need a daily report card, huh?

The last poster had some great suggestions. I know the daily report card has helped my guy. Of course, you have to convince the teacher to do it and show her it will help.

I saw a site the other day called twice gifted for kids with adhd and a high IQ. I think it's even harder for these guys because the teacher thinks if they are so smart, why can't they get their work done? Then we come across as indulgent parents.

Sorry I don't have any more help to offer, but know that you're not alone!

I need to know if I am expecting too much from the school or from my son.  He has what I would refer to as SEVERE ADHD, diabetes, and is on 70mg Vyvanse.  He has never had problems at school with behavior while on meds, but is a raging wild child while at home, which mean homework is basically impossible.

He is (almost 10) and in the 4th grade GATE (accelerated) class.  He was in the 3rd grade GATE class last year.  The difference between the two grades is exponentially faster.  Last year they did very little outside work, mostly small, in class projects, and many worksheets.  Just learned at a faster pace.  This year, the class is moving faster than any advanced class I ever took through high school.  They are doing 3-4 simultaneous projects, and new assignments staggered throughout each subject.  There are almost no worksheets do to new administration, and most work is critical thinking.

My son already has a 504 for diabetes (but not ADHD), and we "discussed" the problem we have with ADHD and him not being able to do work at home.  Just adding a simple spelling assignment at home, and we are looking at three hours of fighting, begging, and eventually crying by one or both of us.  We were assured in our meeting, by the teacher, that she would work with us closely, and that we would rarely see any homework.  That we would work to extend assignments that he needed extra time on, including afterschool help, and possibly reducing assignments.

The DAY before grades were due for the first progress report, I happened to pick him up, and the teacher was beside herself.  She said that he had SIX outstanding assignments, and she would forced to give him zero's if they weren't turned in on time.  THE NEXT DAY!  Turns out 5 out of the 6 were PROJECTS!  We were given the option to finish them over the weekend with a 10 point a day penalty.  This was her solution to "extended time".  The same as any other child, and here I was walking out of the school with my arms full of books, papers, rubics, etx... It was the worst weekend of my lifec

After that, I told her that I am more than willing to meet with her once a week to get an update on his assignments to make sure he doesn't get so far behind, but that *I* need to know when things were assigned and when they are due.  Not the day before...  They do have an agenda with assignments written down, but they are generic daily notes, with no specifics, and no due dates.  Things have been going fairly well (I thought), until yesterday.  Again, all of a sudden she has informed me that he does nothing in class.  That he just kind of spaces out, doesn't ask for help, doesn't join her groups for help on compositions or assignments, etc...  She is now talking about this class just being too fast for him, even though he is smart enough to do it.

She said that if she gives him a worksheet to bubble in answers, or multiple choice, he finishes extremely fast, and aces them.  However, when it comes to assignments where he has to organize thoughts, be creative, etc, he freezes, and ends up doing nothing.  Believe me, I can relate to him.  When I walked into his class, *I* started having a panic attack.  I've never seen anything like it.  The main gist of the this class is that they are given multiple assignments, and expected to just work on them independently, joining into whatever help session she is holding at the moment.

Tutoring...  we talked about afterschool help, working during "less important" classes such as recess, art, music, and obviously we can't do that all the time.  These are her words, too, because she has so many workshops, afterschool meetings, etc.  Not to mention, she has admitted that the class is so fast paced that there really isn't "extra" time to catch up.  What is happening now is that he ends up finishing up one assignment while she is leading the class into another.  Well, that just leaves him behind in another area!  He's never up to speed.

So she calls me yesterday to tell me that she is VERY concerned for him, and his grades, and that we might have to discuss moving him into a regular class. HOWEVER, she also pointed out that the work load will probably not diminish.  WTH?  So how is moving him to another class going to help?  She is concerned that his grades are only in the upper 80's.  Really?  So, in order to stay in the advanced class he has to move at lightning speed AND maintain an A?

Oh, and she scared the he** out of me saying she is VERY concerned about his most recent composition, but won't tell me what's in it because she doesn't want to betray his writing.  But it was disturbing.  Dealing with things he "heard" in our home.  Now, I'm thinking that all he hears is yelling and screaming due to dealing with him, and that he's said we treat him like crap or something.  NO!  I read it when he got home, and he told a story about hearing noises in the house, asking his dad what it was, and it ended up being a ghost! This was supposed to be a "memory" comp, but he admitted that he couldn't think of anything, so he made up a story.  WTH?  I think she thinks he is hearing voices now!

So, if you have read this much, thank you, and I am looking for answers...  Should I expect more help from the school, or do I pull him from his friends and put him in a regular class?  A class where I KNOW there will be more homework, just maybe more teacher/class working on the same thing at the same time?  He was in tears last night because I told him that pulling him out is our next option.  He doesn't want to leave the class, but even that didn't get him motivated to finish his composition last night, just more tears...

I don't know what to do...  I need help!

 

I think a lot of their success (and failure) has to do with the individual attention they receive. Our school has a one day pull out program for the more advanced kids and also a full time program. They test for it in second grade and then start attending in third grade. My son didn't test high enough on the in school test, and in fact, scored very low on the creativity section. Which is crazy, because ADHD kids are some of the most creative thinking kids around. So we paid 0 to have him tested outside of school. It was a one on one situation and my son now scores high enough for the full time program. Knowing the stress wasn't worth it for him, we opted for the one day program and he's loving it.

Some teachers are really good about making sure the kids all understand what they should be doing, some not so much. Communication is key. Let the teacher know you're going to be following along and checking in with her on a daily basis if need be. Then she will be more responsible to fix the issues.