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I've rarely heard where a non med approach works well for children.

The number one priority being finding the correct treatment.

We can't do that without the correct diagnosis as step 1

There are a lot oft other things that can help but most important is
making sure that school work is accomplishable. This above all else.
Is the biggest factor of self esteem.   I'm sure you got an iep and
others things going for her, while I do recommend seeking as much
self help.   As possible.   It is the med treatment whis is the most
proven way to help children succed in school.

Some teachers are help others a hindrance. And is why it apart of iep
in school.   Over the years I've seen a lot of self help. And. Not all of it
good either . I'd advice. Using this board to find others to bounce the
self help ideas. Around before forging ahead.

Sometime there is more than1 disorder. Associated with ADHD. So
only focussing ADHD. As self help. And not in collaboration with
therapist may miss some other underlying issues. Not as obvious as
the adhdIsn't she too old for play therapy? What about regular therapy?I have a 10 year old daughter. She has recently been
diagnosed with ADHD, but is also having play therapy as
her psychiatrist believes that she has other underlying
issues, which i agree with whole-heartedly. On a daily
basis, i am told that she wishes i'd die, i am punched,
kicked, bitten, stamped on, slapped and receive various
pieces of verbal abuse. She shows no remorse for her
actions. She tries to destroy things in my house. She has
threatened my other child repeatedly, and her new one is
to go to school and lie about things that i've apparently
done to her, as a punishment to me, whenever i do not let
her have her own way! I have spoken to the
"professionals", i have asked for help from every which
way i can think of, but nothing seems to be getting
betterIf it were me I would consult the prescribing physician immediatly.
Some meds cause suicidal thoughts or morbid thoughts. You may only
be hearing her threaten you out loud but you could be missing what
she think of doing to herself. So I would say bring it to the doctors
attention right away.

Some drugs with suicidal thoughts need to be stepped down rather
than immediately stopped. Good luck. And remember there are no
bad questions , board advice is sometimes inaccurate , all people are
different and react to meds in various ways. What may have worked
well last year may need adjustment .qor even changed altogether to
avoid a resistance build up. Even the summer needs for meds may be
different than early morning when back in school.

Many parents find themselves dealing with emotional development that
they're not ready embrace and start to feel overwhelmed themselves.
Having people to vent is healthy just beware of ametures such as
myself when following advice.Mr Fog40614.7288773148Hi

Thanks. You've given me quite a lot to think about there.

It is a very long slog, and i am starting to run out of
ideas. i've tried speaking to various professionals and
nothing seems to work. I am now onto "self help" books to
see if they can show me another angle to approach from. Still learning this new iNterface
It creates more typos than I do. . Sorry I assumed that this post
actually did not post. But when I re read the thread I saw that actually
did.    Well. The below need edited

Do you believe these behaviors started with the meds?

Some comorbids of adhd have behaviors were the children are in
constant trouble. Continuous indefinite behaviors to stay in trouble.

Step1 correct diagnoisis
2 meds
Routine
Cbt


For parents of these children can be overwhelming , the frustration is
realizing that it can take up to2/3 years of constant processing with
the what would you do differently conversations that seem not to work,
but with long term persistence. Definitely helps the children stay in
check with peers on emotional lvl and hopefully reduces stress..

I didn't grow up with that myself but I can relate to what your implying
. This is I'll be sure that speaking in general. Not directly to you're
situation. Parental skills are very important and the children's disorder
is not a reflection of the parent. It can be difficult when other people
in the child's life wish add their two cents and the zing you with
parental skills.   Knowing parent skills like planned ignore with reward
for positive behavior ,and. Distraction with invitation to positive
outcome.    And very important one like. Creating space, giving time
for cognitive interpretation goes a long long way.   


This next thought I have. My be inaccuate so. Find out for yourself.
From another source before you believe what I say.

Some of the "addictive personality" children can start become
accustomed to getting a rise out being in trouble . They continue to
get in trouble because it stimulates their frontal cortex. If you think
about it as brains grow from say 12-18 thinking moves from impulsive
thinking to solve problems to more cognitively prossesed. Errr more
adult thinking.    
It's my personal belief tha some ADHD kids cognition issues are
extremely frustrating for the child until they reach adulthood.

So keeping structure. In place. - not so many changes of people
placces. Keeping the people and places in their week from changing
week by week.

Routine. If consistent. Can be a wonderful way to introduce ADHD
kids to challenge time. And later becomes study time.

I could never say how important thevrole of the parent is in keeping
structure and routine in place.    The trick. Is that when you let them
go at adulthood. That. They know how to cope. Without structure and
routine.   That those things are like scaffolding. When removed they
don't. Start to self med.     So don't think you're the only parent that
goes through this . There are folks that can relate and
psycopharmacoligists that make the first step the right first step.
When were children we need parents and teachers , and doctors.

When were adults we need doctors and therapists and time
management skills . And some other things too. But those are basics.

If it weren't for my dad. I'd be dead he had the courage to have an
intervention . After I leftvhome I took self destructive path. Well that's
for a different post.

I guess the one other thing I would say makes a major impact. But is
easy to become frustrated with .
SLeep
Sleep deprivation and ADHD are not healthy. I don't know how to say
it in any other way.
If you're waking them up   They may not be getting enough.what I
mean is. Look past the eight hour mark. Are they in bed long enough
till theirs eyes just pop open and stay open then that's how much
sleep they need.

Further. Sleep algorithms suggest
Babies wake near 5-7 am
Adolescence it gravitates more to laying down around 11-1am.
Then around 55 start going back to waking 5-7am

It can be difficult for children be sleepy and on stimulants at the same
time.   So the easiest thing to for a parent to do is have a firm
expectation of sleep time .and guard it like a cornerstone of treatment.

From there routine and structure merge in my opinion..


Good luck

Mr Fog40615.7830555556Hi, these developmental stages that they go through is really a cry for help.
A major struggle for me with my 14 yr old ADD son was to communicate
his struggles so that we could work through it. It was a daily battle to sift
through all the unexpected outcomes to get to his CORE BELIEFS and
VALUES. A personality test will help you. Looking for a highly skilled
therapist who specializes in this area should really be a great blessing
when you find that person.