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my sons, age 9, have recently been displaying allot of weird sexual behaviour as well.  It started at school last year, with another (ADHD!) boy - he instigated it.  They started in the locker room by showing each other their penis's.  It went on to "sucking".  There appeared to be 6 boys involved in total.  My husband and I brought it up to the principal - called him at home during the summer break.  He took what we thought was very appropriate action and we felt it was over (of course I felt sick for most of the summer, but it seemed to work out fine).

Now I have just found out that there have recently been incidents with some neighbor children - it appears all were just "showing" no "touching".  Again, we have talked, they are no longer able to go to the neighbor's house, and they only play at our house under strict supervision.

The problem is, with my kids, they don't care about rules.  they don't seem to care about consequences until after they have them.  What do we do to get them to obey rules even if they think they are not going to get caught? They lose priveleges, they get grounded etc.  We reward for good behaviour.

I was reluctant to take them to a therapist about this before because I thought it was probably blowing it out of proportion.  I spoke to the school councillor and he also felt that was unnecesary, but now with the neighbor thing I don't know.  What is normal?

 

I have read that ADHD children have a higher sexual desire???  Or should I say maybe they react on it more??  But my son is 9 and we (husband and toddler) were traveling back from my dad's house - while in the airport waiting for our flight my son had rebounded from meds... he was on the floor humping it!!!  I could have died!  I had never seen him act this way before or since... that was 6 months ago.  I do get concerned with all this as well!  I worry about my daughter who is 5 years younger than him...  (they are both adopted at birth - through national adoption agency... my son's birthfather has serious issues and found out later the birthmothers brother had issues with behavior they sent him away to a home from age 8 - 17... so he is getting it from both sides

these poor kids!!!

my son is nine and has shown weird sexual behavior/pre-occupation
since his adhd was first noticeable. when his meds wear off (concerta) he
gets what i call a maniacal laugh and often will try to hump the dog or say
or do inappropriate things. he'll try to get me to look at his penis or ask
me to have a baby with him. obviously, i get very disturbed and have
lectured him endlessly about how inappropriate it is and why it is, but
lately i've taken the approach to just knock it off and i'll walk away if
that's how he's behaving. unfortunately, it's hard to do that sometimes.
again, it's only when his meds are wearing off or before he takes them in
the morning.

i have also spoken to him many times about if someone touches him
inappropriately and although i can't say with 100% assurance it's never
happened, he's so open with me, i can't imagine that he'd hide something
like that. by the way, if anyone else has experienced the maniacal laugh thing, please
let me know. also laughing at inappropriate things or moments, like
someone getting hurt or just getting in trouble--again, OFF of meds.After reading all this I am glad I am not the only one
experiencing this with my son: Now 11. He went surfing
for porn as early as 9 - on my phone and one the
computer. He was banned from both for awhile. He can not
access my phone and now the have parental controls on the
computer - but he did try - and we see he tried. My
husband talks with him, mostly, about this.

My son claims that his friends told him to look up these
sites and part of my believes this but since he kept
looking it up I knew it wasn't all his friend's doing.

I asked his therapist about it and she told me to have
the "the talk" with him. I waited for my husband to but
he kept putting it off. I finally did and BOY did it
help. My son told me after I asked him if his friends
keep asking him to look things up that he didn't think
their parents had the "talk" with them yet. he seemed
relieved to know more about why are bodies are the way
they are and why they are different.

That's my advice.thanks new mom. i had the talk with him last year. we're very open in this
house. i almost regretted it b/c i worried that a kid with his issues maybe
shouldn't have access to so much info. btw, i'm reading "the difficult child"
and it is really making sense. i'm trying the approach talked about in there
and so far, i can honestly say we are really making progress. will keep
reporting back!My daughter is only 3 1/2 and I have found her with her teddy bear under her going to town.  I became VERY concerned than and my husband and I decided that we were going to have one of us stay at home.  Since my income was more, it was him that stayed home.  Now it still is going on and we are not sure why.  A family member ofmine asked if maybe him and I had intercoars infornt of her and ofcourse we never did it truely embarasses me and concerns me ... my father who is a social worker in ny told me when it first started that it was normal for her to go threw this however when she never left the "phase" that is when I became concerned.

Your son is almost 16? Then I wouldn't worry about him being interested in porn sites. It's certainly not odd. That's a really normal age for boys to explore that kind of stuff, though your family's values may require that you let him know you think it's wrong. My oldest was caught surfing that stuff at 14. I let him know that I think it's degrading to women, that most of those pictures are photoshopped anyway, and that exposure to stuff like that can change the way he views women and his expectations of actual live women, and that it was absolutely not allowed in our home.

 As far as the third-grade behavior with the dog, did you ask a professional about that? I was a daycare provider for many years and had to do training every year. We were taught that it is very common for children to display a touching or "humping" behavior (especially at nap time, often utilizing dolls or stuffed animals or their wadded up blankie) as early as the toddler years, perhaps younger if they happen to get their hands inside their diapers. Your history makes this a sensitive issue for you, but it really is common. If you continue to worry about it, ask a professional instead of fretting about what your son is up to and possibly negatively affecting his thoughts and feelings about sex.

It's good that you are addressing these issues and not writing it off to young curiosity.  I agree that he seems very young to be displaying these behaviors.  I imagine you know that early interest in sexual behavior can be a marker that someone has sexually abused him.  I am NOT saying that's definitely happened, but I'd want a professioinal to explore this possibility with him and get him the needed help if it indeed happened/is happening.

Based on your history, I'm sure this is a difficult subject for you, and I'm sorry you are going through this with your child.

I need to raise one point that does not require a response on this message board.  Just think about it.  You said that you are an incest survivor.  Has your perpetrator been around your son?  These behaviors often get repeated, and your child being a boy doesn't mean it won't happen with him.  If this person is part of his life, I would not leave them alone together.

I hope you find a helpful professional.  I would contact either your pediatrician or the school counselor to find a child therapist experienced in this area.  If you want more anonymity, see if there's an anonymous hotline through your county.

Thanks for your response.  I actually have spoke with all my children about my abuse so as to make sure they were aware of what the abuser did and to head him off at the path, so to speak, just in case.  I always made sure to protect my kids from my abuser BUT I know we can't protect them from all that are out there.  I have spoke with my son about sexual abuse and he assures me it has never happened to him.  My son is almost 16 so not too young to speak openly with him about these things.  I've always tried to keep open lines of communication because I know that secrets and shame are a molestors valuable tools. 

I've been doing A LOT of reading and have noticed many, many parents of kids with ADHD speaking out about odd sexual behaviors from their children.  I'm beginning to wonder if there's something else tagging along with the ADHD.  I know he suffers from a touch of OCD and a couple other little things the Psychiatrist assures me is common. 

My sister, who works in the mental health field, believes a teen coiunselor may be the path I should try.  At this point, I'm willing to try anything.  I've taken computer access at home away and implemented parental controls on his phone.  Hope I can find an answer that we all can live with happily.

 

My son is worrying me with his curiosity of sex.    I've always watched him closely because of early, third grade, odd sexual behaviors.  For example, I caught him once laying on top of the family dog humping away.  Anyway, I have always been extremely sensitive to what he may be going through because I am an incest survivor.  That being said, I've always tried to keep an open mind and understand that certain behaviors are normal but the dog behavior was definitely not.

Just recently I've discovered his fascination with porn sites.  Again, I just warned him to stay off and grounded him from the computer.  I've found text messages from someone who he met on a gaming site.  The text were inappropriate and I warned him how dangerous that could be.  I text the person on the other end and told them to never communicate with my son again.  I have now found new communication on my sons phone and sites that involve beastiality porn. 

I'm wondering is there a specific type of counselor that deals with these type of things or will the psychiatrist be the one to handle this? 

Psychiatrists manage meds. You want a therapist. Probably a male
specializing in teens.

Can you use parental controls to block access on the computer and cell
phone and TV?

AT&T has MEdia Net which has a content filter that will restrict access to
sites with mature content. Verizon has content filters
based on age ranges. T Mobile has Web Guard allows you to restrict
access to sites with adult content and sites that fall into a set of categories
such as alcohol, drugs, weapons, gambing and hate.

I've got parent controls set using Direct TV, restricting all shows over a
PG13 rating.

When my son gets better at maneuvering around the internet, I'll get
parent controls in place on the computer also.Jessica N40617.9131944444