can STIMS increase ADD? | ADHD Information
Ovestimulation produces confusion. Think of it like this. An add person lacks certain brain chemicals so that PARTS of the brain cannot process information fast enough to keep up. For this person stims have the effect of slowing the brain down. But that's not really accurate, it really speeds the PARTS of the brain not working up. Or, it syncs them.
If you don't have this brain synch problem you just speed. That's what it sounds like to me. I don't get talkative or wander off on tangents my brain just comes into focus.
My guess is you don't have ADD. But also, Ritalin is better for some people, so maybe Adderall is not the right drug for you. The first time I used Adderall I used a 30MG XR and nothing, so I took another nothing. 60MG of adderall XR and nothing.
The next med I tried was 10MG of Ritalin and I was bouncing off the walls. For me, Ritalin is about 8 times stronger then Adderall.
Jam, I would consider being treated with Anti-Depressants first off (Zoloft however was not a good one for myself) These help a lot but can make you sleepy. If you still have probs after than, perhaps consider ADD drugs.
i have been taking 10 mgs of adderallxr once a day and i can feel it kick in within an hour at least.
i can be soooooo tired from not sleeping the night before and after i take it i am wide awake and more chatty then before i ever started this med.
i feel my mood pick right on up and i start smiling and feeling happy then i get so chatty and i annoy even my self cause i want to shut up but i go on and on...
any one affected this way? i can really feel when it has worn off cause i feel stupid again, i cannot formulate a sentence, think of where i am going, i get lost again, etc...
i have found no focus as of yet though either and today we went to Jesus Christ super star play and i fidgeted the whole time (two hours) cause i was having major anxiety attacks, not sure what from but not from the meds, but nonethess i am not able to sit very still dispite the meds..ithink i have a component of ADHD and when the med wheres off i can even more antsy then on it!
i roamaround the house like a lost puppy...i discover new things to do, i feel more alert, and this is AFTER the adderall xr has worn off! what to make of this?
I have to agree with Shin!
I have to disagree with Shin...
Stimulants have a high degree of success for ADHD, which is 75%. So there are 2.5 people out of 10 for who stimulants do not work or make the person worse. Therefore, we can't just assume you don't have ADD because Adderall appears to fail in your case.
It could be that you don't have ADD. But there is a good chance also that Simulants are triggering a co-existing condition such as mania or anxiety. When co-existing anxiety is present stimulants alone normally fail.
I think its becoming apparent that stimulants by themselves aren't working for you. There are other very good proven options besides the stimulants for treatment of ADD. Effexor (works for ADD 200mg and up, but not below 200mgs), Wellbutrin, Wellbutrin + Zoloft, Zoloft by itself (worked for my type of ADD), Zoloft + Stimulant, Cymbalta, Desimipramine, Strattera
ok but my mood is great and i get more done, i am more productive, not focused per se though and i can talk better, am more out going, more happy that makes me laugh more and talk more..
when it wears off these feelings are more intensified!!! when it wears off!!!! when it wears off i am more antsy then when it is still fully in my system..
that means for me when evening comes along and i want to unwind i am wound up more so and i take it around 7-8 a.m. and go to bed at 11:00 ish and do not sleep cept maybe a couple nights a week i sleep, otherwise forget it, i toss and turn all night and drag myself out of bed and take my pill and it wakes me up like a nice pepsi would, nothing wammo like, just a nice, oh i feel better now, now i can get things done, i do not feel that tired anymore so i can get on with my day even though i was so tired a while before that..
My Dr. prefers trying ritalin first. One of the advantages/disadvantages of ritalin is it's short life. I take 10mg 3 times a day...I might go to 40 mg on nights I have school after i talk to the DR. He insisted I kick caffeine when i went on it. I have read some people are bothered by stim/caffeine combo so I guess it made sense. It is all out of my system when I lay my head down. I sleep like a baby. I also exercise a lot which as I understand it is great for sleep. I do it mostly for my heart and anxiety....great for them too!
i asked my dh today if he even thougth it was helping me and to my
surprise he was MAD that i was going to stop it! he said before i
was not taking my other meds like i was suppose to be but now he
knows that i am, he sees me as more focused but i dont', he says
i am not on the internet as much, he does not see me flitting from
one thing to another to another to yet another as before either.
funny i never noticed this! so maybe it is working to some degree
but at the price of not sleeing it is not worth it...any ideas?
today i did not take it i am in need of some desparate sleep!
also i do have an anxiety disorder to some degree so maybe
that is being aggravated by adderall xr..i may ask dr. for a
low dose of celexa again..maybe i need some serotonin?
again though i want to re-iterate that it is when i am coming
off the meds that i get chatty and energized..like a backwards
type of rebound maybe??
Another thing my Dr. hammered me with was diet. I already didnt drink or take illicit drugs so that suggestion was easy. It was his belief ADD was exxasperated by the American Diet...I made a DRASTIC diet change...no addictives, dyes, artifical flavors, sugar, sugar substitues low cal or others( furctose, corn syrup etc), no caffeine, no chocalate, white flour am the debil...white potatoes are the devil's Tubar cousin.. I eat all whole foods, have to cook everything, the forozen food section and deli became taboo. I eat as many veggies as I want( the no high starch ones) but only 3 fruits a day.(a glass of Juice bbeing a fruit..I found this organic black cherry juice that is great and 1/3 of it 2/3 of carbonated water tastes great!). I eat lots of protein but shy from beef and perdue chicken and east mostly fresh fish and the dollar more a pound no hormone chicken. My food budget really balanced out. The meats I buy cost more but I buy no frozen pizza etc. I cheat on Sunday. One 99 cent bag of Lays chips and a chocolate milk this week. Last week it was 2 dogs from blackies in cheshire ct...toxic waste with spicy relish! The week before it was Pom Frittes from Manhaten( best FF in USA!). I feel better than I have ever felt in my life. I am sure it is a combo of the exercise, the meds and, my diet
My Personality or is it an aspect ADD mmm... WHO CARES lol its all me!... has always been like a light switch...all the way on or all the way off. No one ever accused me of moderation! I went all the way on in seeking help for ADD. I really think the diet has helped with bothe ADD and Anxiety. He said I would feel much better after a month...damned if he wasnt right.
I am sorry Ritalin didnt work for you. I'd be pretty bummed if I started having an allergic reaction to it now. I know lots here think adderal is the bomb. There is that other stim whoose name escapes me that isnt pushed also. clyc something or other.
Hello Jamie. Your response to AdderallXR sounds really pronounced or like someone who may not have ADD. I am no expert, but becoming more chatty sounds like what "speed" does to a person. They are lifted way up and they crash. I take (3) 20mg AdderallXRs per day, and they never keep me up unless I take them at night. I get considerably less talkative (generally, I enjoy talking way too much
), and get more serious. I listen to talk radio and contemplate the political issues being discussed, rather than having wild rock and roll blaring from the CD player. I do not crash unless I take all 3 at a time and even then the crash is not severe. My nose turns bright red and I feel unmotivated for a short while, then slide into a feeling of normalcy. It never does make me feel speedy or hyper. Guess we're all different. Ritalin
puts me in a nasty mood, unlike any I have ever encountered before...did not take that for long...anyway , just thought I'd let you know how stims affected me.Through a slip of grammer the intent of my message was lost. Try Ritalin.rae, i have been on several anti-d's to no avail. nothing made any difference with anything, probably cause i was not depressed nor did they help any ADD symptoms either, so my dr. wont even bother with them anymore since we ran the gammit before trying the ritalin first.
bobel, i was on ritalin first too, 5 mgs three times a day then i broke out in these tiny itching bumps. they started within a few days after starting ritalin so my dr. took me off for fear of hives, etc.
i loved the ritalin, i felt it calm me right away, i felt it also make me want to sit and watch t.v. all day too..i felt more normal on it and not hyped up like i do on the adderall xr.
i was thinking about all this this a.m. and i realized that when i take the adderall and i am so tired that it wakes me up buuuut it AFTER it wears off that i get all chatty!!! not when i am on it but after it has run it's course for the day and it is wearing off THAT is when i get that way!!!
i do drink caffeine on it too cause i need my diet coke! i do not drink much of it but when i feel it wearing off i am more prone to wanting one then when it is working.
either way, i know i have the ADD and i feel that the adderall xr has helped me alot with alot of things but not so sure about the focus part of it, not so sure i would know it if it was slapping me in the face either though..
maybe i need a higher dose as 10 is not a very high dose???
A good way for me to test my focus is to sit down and read a book without medication and then after I take the medication. OpenYourEyes38382.6205439815