If ADD's a gift, can I give it back?
Mark -
I always considered my situation as a gift rather than some type of dysfunction. I have hyper-vision, hyper-smell, hyper-taste, and on occasion hyper-hearing. I was always capable of writing my papers one time through the night before handing the essays in to my professors and get an A, yet in math and history I couldn't recall a darn thing. I could not concentrate in any class that didn't have audio-visual course materials in the curriculum, yet in art I graduated early with straight A's and the professor had to seperate me because I was teaching the other students how to paint & influencing them beyond their range for that semester.
I have started a cute little book, but I have so many distractions and I get bored with the preparation stages that I keep stopping the book.
Nevertheless...why is ADD labeled as a dysfunction when it has made my life more colorful & worth living? I have always known I would never be like anyone else, & my instant change of conversation mid-sentence annoys the heck out of everyone, but the stimulus I seek in my own enjoyment is worthwhile to me. Even if it is chasing butterflies or enjoying a fragrant blossom...whatever they want to label is as.
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I think it is considered a dysfunction because it often causes people with it to suffer significantly in their lives as a result of it - until it is treated.
It makes it difficult to do everyday things.
I've noticed positive aspects of it - but, it has also cost me a great deal.
I'm glad for you though.
[QUOTE=Mark Goode]If ADD's a gift, can I give it back?
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I agree ADHD can be a gift, and if I could function better w/o meds, I would be all the more happier...although I have survived over 50 years w/o meds.
BTW, I can hear a watch ticking across a room full of students! The hyper-hearing isn't always a gift, tho, since I'm very sound sensitive, like many ADHDers.
Good luck with your book.
GypsyWomyn38436.4147453704 The way I see it, Michele, at least for me, is that sounds can be VERY bothersome and annoying to me, and has always been like that for me. Oh yes, the TV commercials! Urrgh!
I'm very annoyed by traffic sounds, dogs barking, loud music or neighbor's TV, diesel trucks (I live in rv park and hate them). And children screaming like they do! Good thing I don't have any.
)...sorry, Taag!GypsyWomyn38436.4767361111Ronna,
Could you elaborate a little bit on the hearing sensitivity? I have seen hearing mentioned a couple of times now and am interested to know more on it. I have poor hearing on both sides of my family and am starting to really notice that I need things repeated to me more and more. I just don't hear that clearly. The ODD thing is, that certain things just hurt my ears! I am so sound sensitive when the TV is too loud for example. The commercials just kill me because they crank them up. It puzzles me that I feel like I'm going deaf in some regards ,and then I'm in pain to certain other sounds. I have a really strong sense of smell though! Geez, I can smell if my dog ripped one in the other room! LOL
It is both a gift and a curse for me.
. Sometimes I can't concentrate if there is a smell bothering me , or a sound so small others don't even know its there can drive me nuts.
, also being very emotional got me lots of crap when I was young cause I'm a guy, but has been great with my ability to communicate my love to my wife and children.
I guess ADD is more severe in some than others.
[Quote=Duncan]And I have to say for now anyway, (I'm new to thinking of myself as ADD, although I have suspected it for years) in response to the topic of this thread, I have difficulty thinking of ADD as a gift. I think that being able to focus on something I love--like a good book or a creative project--for hours on end would be an absolute dream come true. And every once in a while I can, but those days are rare.
could someone expound on this hyper stuff. is it always associated with ADHD?
Too much of the time I am bothered by sounds and even the presence of people. When and if music is on, either it's just plain annoying to me or I'm really into it, dancing around. It will be so nice when I can actually enjoy hearing music and be able to do something productive at the same time. Most of the time, however, the reality of it that I can't get anything done until it's everyone in my neighborhood has gone to sleep and there is no noise whatsoever.
[QUOTE=GypsyWomyn]I was just reminded of something I did mostly when I was younger, but still do. I will smell a book before buying it (I'm too embarrassed now to do it, [/QUOTE]
GypsyWomyn, I always, always smell a book before I buy it. I love the smell of paper and ink, and if a book seems good, a particulary good-smelling one will be purchased over one that seems as good in content, but not in smell.
Weird, but true.
And I have to say for now anyway, (I'm new to thinking of myself as ADD, although I have suspected it for years)in response to the topic of this thread, I have difficulty thinking of ADD as a gift. I think that being able to focus on something I love--like a good book or a creative project--for hours on end would be an absolute dream come true. And every once in a while I can, but those days are rare.
--duncan
I was just reminded of something I did mostly when I was younger, but still do. I will smell a book before buying it (I'm too embarrassed now to do it, unless I am sure no one is looking).
I can tell a lot about a book by its smell. I guess there's just some inks I like better than others. I also think I'm looking for a books that smelled like my books when I was a child.
When I was a regular student and decided to study - I would either wear earplugs in the quiet section of the library or go to a coffeeshop where there was quite a lot of noise - without earplugs.
Somehow we had a mouse get in behind one of our walls that died. I could smell it for a while and my husband didn't believe me. Finally it got strong enough and he became suspicious also. My father in law came over and we tried to find it. I used my nose and pointed to the exact spot where I believed he was, and when my husband cut out the sheetrock there was his little rotten corpse! They looked at me like I was some sort of freak, but I truly have a great nose, and they were amazed by my accuracy.
Ronna, I also smell all sorts of things before trying them. I haven't smelled books before buying them but I smell clothes a lot! If something doesn't smell right, I just can't take it. I also like to put fabric softner into my wash because I love the way the clothes smell. I'm a sucker for nice lotions and body washes too.
[QUOTE=yellowdog] Last night, I went on a hike with a semi-organized group of people and I noticed that most people steadily trudged up to the peak without stopping to look at the river and city views along the way. One advantage of add may be the ability to get distracted by and enjoy the views along the way.
)... but sure is in WA today! If you did hike after dark, I wonder how many people looked up at the moon?
If I may presume, it seems many/most of us who weren't dx'd until adulthood DO NOT develop 'good' skills for coping, and eventually, in despiration, seek help and discovered ADHD and THIS BOARD!
I immensely enjoy your posts and what you share with us.
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Wow, you did a 'full-moon' hike? Good thing you went last night....don't know if it's raining in OR (that is where you are, right?
)... but sure is in WA today! If you did hike after dark, I wonder how many people looked up at the moon?
Last night it wasn't raining here and the moon was visible but there was fog in front of it.
Although I had the need to develop those skills, I was not aware that I had the opportunity, because I wasn't aware I could change. And even if I did, sadly, I didn't now how to develop skills so I could change.
If I may presume, it seems many/most of us who weren't dx'd until adulthood DO NOT develop 'good' skills for coping, and eventually, in despiration, seek help and discovered ADHD and THIS BOARD!
Prior to dealing with my add, I don't think I really changed in such a way that I "fit in" but I did find ways to survive despite numerous set backs - when you fail numerous times and seem to be left standing with nothing - you have to become resourceful and creative.
When you impulsively put yourself into a situation, you have to find a way to get through it.
Likewise, when you can't remember what you were supposed to and your left to answer a question, you have to find a creative way to deal with the situation.
I think many people with add find themselves in situations where they have to be resourceful and find some way to get by - many, many times in our lives.
If I had a choice, I'd have gotten help when I was much younger because I think I could have been happier, more successful and could have avoided the depression.
However, I think that some of the good things that come from the challenges of later diagnosis are more developed resoucefulness, creative problems solving and "unintened" adventure.
It is all, of course, just my opinion based on my experience. I'm interested in other ideas.
Yellowdog, please note it is in no way my intention to to belittle the resourcefulness, skills and abilities you have developed.
I don't feel belittled - I'm just sharing my experience and opinions.
[quote=yellowdog]I think many people with add find themselves in situations where they have to be resourceful and find some way to get by - many, many times in our lives.
This board is so much like a good book that expresses exactly how I feel, but with someone else managing to do a better job of putting it into words for me. Thanks!GypsyWomyn38437.5880439815[QUOTE=GypsyWomyn] [QUOTE=Mark Goode]
If ADD's a gift, can I give it back?
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Mark, you are such a hoot! 
You always make me smile.
Reizende, I'm aware of many good characteristics of being ADHD, and you obviously have many of those and seem to be able to manage, even tho it may be difficult at times (mostly for others, right?)
I agree ADHD can be a gift, and if I could function better w/o meds, I would be all the more happier...although I have survived over 50 years w/o meds.
However, perhaps you haven't lost many (most) jobs, friends and relationships because of AD(H)D.
I also have all the 'hypers' you mention, and hope while on meds, I don't lose them.
BTW, I can hear a watch ticking across a room full of students!
The hyper-hearing isn't always a gift, tho, since I'm very sound sensitive, like many ADHDers.
I am assuming you're not on meds, and therefor have not lost those creative juices which flow in many of us.
Good luck with your book.
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Yes Gypsywoman I have lost a lot of those things..especially the relationships. I am referring to it as a gift of inginuitive thinking and creativity..for the rest of my life & during all of my life it has been utter chaos. I am trying to cope with a recent breakup..so far I think I am making it okay..but undiagnosed ADD is definately the cause and if I could afford health insurance right now I would go get the testing I need and figure out how to fix it. 8(
Last night, I went on a hike with a semi-organized group of people and I noticed that most people steadily trudged up to the peak without stopping to look at the river and city views along the way. One advantage of add may be the ability to get distracted by and enjoy the views along the way.
However, I think my resourcefulness and creative problem solving abilities may have come primarily from living with untreated add for most of my life. Some of the situations that I have been putting myself into since I was very young have given me the opportunity/need to develop those skills. I wonder whether the people who are diagnosed when they are very young will actually develop these skills the same way that someone who lives with the untreated condition naturally does.
Rather than call it a gift I consider it an attribute of who I am. Like Hair color (brown) or eyes (brown). I refer to my wife's classification of ADD as a dysfunction equivalent to calling blondes dumb.
As far as giving the gift back! LOL I sometimes wish I could.
My gifts aren't hidden. Overall I think ADD is a negative. There are a couple of things I do very well because my brain just works a little different. I dont fell ADHD( treated) is a handicap just a sometimes inconvenince and source of frustration. I am very fast mentally and I think it is connected to ADHD. I don't mena smart so much as able to put things together and reach conclusions faster than most people I know. I am brighter than the avg lightbulb but I think that has nothing to do with the ADHD and the accuity when I am focused on something does have to do with ADHD. I am great at getting my point across when explaining something verbally. God, don't ask me to write using correct english and God forbid I actually have to write something in cursive....Mayan Hieroglyphics will be deciphered before my handwriting or spelling. If it's a situation with differing points of view I am very good at preempting the arguments against my point of view. I think maybe that I think fast on my feet and can juggle between making my point and anticipating how I would argue against it while speaking is connected to adhd rahter than any inate intelligence. At the same time you know it still sucks to loose my keys forget what I was aying mid sentence etc when i dont take medication. The medication has been the key for my being able to turn what was a handicap into a mild irritation.
Back in school we did a left brain/right brain test. I scored 15 left 51 right. I just assumed laziness on my part. 8 ) At the same time my gifts are in the arts..which I also feel may be emphasized due to the ADD.
Sometimes I wondered if it was just a brain tumor, but I think I would have been dead by now if I had the tumor since childhood. Partly because with some of my gifts I can identify people I know by smell (not their cologne by the way), I can see in the dark due to the sounds that bounce off the walls
[QUOTE=Mark Goode]If ADD's a gift, can I give it back?
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Unfortunately, the store does not allow refunds or exchanges after 30 days. Like all things, it depends on what you want to do with your life as to how much help you think you need.
Those who want to have an executive desk job requiring lengthy focus would benefit from medication. If you want to be a bungy jumping instructor, you might do quite well without it.
An ADD friend told me to go and get a job at McDonalds and I would be really good at it. They say "cook that" and you have to cook it. I think I would be great at McDonalds, but unfortunately I would never want to work there.
The hard part is to find something you could be really good at, and also want to do for a job.
I changed the title of this thread a bit because what I was actually trying to convey about ADD and what actually came out of my keyboard were 2 different things.Your comment is interesting to me as I only really figured out the ADD/ADHD thing a little over a year ago and then I had to get used to the idea. My doctor put me on Adderall (I've been on Wellbutrin for 5 years) and whamo! An hour and a half after the first pill I turned into a different person and best of all my ever present companions despair and anguish took a short hike and went off in the distance somewhere. Unfortunately my government banned Adderall so I am back to misery and trying to find something else that works. I have read about this "positive" aspects thing and I do agree that we have certain abilities or talents. The problem is, I have spent all of my life not accomplishing very much, not completing things, not living up to my potential (been told many times) and most of my life has been spent hidden away barely able to function at times. An endurathon. I suppose everyone has varying severity and we all have to remember that when giving people advice.
ychological disorders like schizophrenia and bipolar (which are very
troublesome), ADD/HD'ers are usually very gifted in many areas.
It
also depends on the degree of ADD/HD that you have. In extreme cases,
individuals can't even function. But mild to moderate ADD can be
something of a gift, especially if the person is raised in the right
upbringing.
I have (at worst) moderate ADHD, and I think (more
than anything) adds a kick to my personality. I struggle in school, but
other than that, I have many advantages over my peers. I don't feel I
need any sort of medication, because I can function without.
Anyways, it's good to look at the benefits of ADD/HD, because they certainly exist![/QUOTE]
Have you actually been diagnosed? I find that it often happens that people who have never been diagnosed find that add has many "benefits' but everyone that I know who has actually been diagnosed has suffered from it.
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[QUOTE=lynch1000s]ADD/HD has many benefits and disadvantages. Unlike other psychological disorders like schizophrenia and bipolar (which are very troublesome), ADD/HD'ers are usually very gifted in many areas.
It also depends on the degree of ADD/HD that you have. In extreme cases, individuals can't even function. But mild to moderate ADD can be something of a gift, especially if the person is raised in the right upbringing.
I have (at worst) moderate ADHD, and I think (more than anything) adds a kick to my personality. I struggle in school, but other than that, I have many advantages over my peers. I don't feel I need any sort of medication, because I can function without.
Anyways, it's good to look at the benefits of ADD/HD, because they certainly exist![/QUOTE]
Have you actually been diagnosed? I find that it often happens that people who have never been diagnosed find that add has many "benefits' but everyone that I know who has actually been diagnosed has suffered from it.
Hi all, just wanted to mention that when I was on Adderall for one month before the Canadian government banned it (it changed my life and then the government made sure they changed it back) my tinnitus disappeared. I am now trying Dexedrine and the tinnitus is back though not full force.
ADD/HD has many benefits and disadvantages. Unlike other psychological disorders like schizophrenia and bipolar (which are very troublesome), ADD/HD'ers are usually very gifted in many areas.
I agree with the comment that ADD may have allowed creative thinking when having to learn to work around the problems most of the early years. However, the funny part of it is, that I was an only child and didn't think anything was wrong with me most of my life. I thought I was some creative, lazy daydreamer due to not having any little buddies growing up with no brother or sister.
i do agree in some way, we can understand a lot of things "normal" people can't but this disease is going to kill me if i don't get meds & a girlfriend
[QUOTE=scarygreengiant]Unfortunately, the store does not allow refunds or exchanges after 30 days.
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Yeah, and I think we've all procrastinated too long for that!

Like your ADD problems automatically go away when you're not in school.
People don't understand that it's a constant thing. Does cancer go away
when you're not in the hospital? No! I just get tired of being reprimanded for misinterpreting what people at work ask me to do. I am also tired of them giving me partial information and telling me to play "fill in the blanks to see what I want you to do". I am one that has always had to have my instructions all laid out for me in fine detail for me (with people saying I am "slow" in the background). I am sick of people saying "she never takes the initiative". It's kind of hard to take the initiative when I have the mixed up puzzle pieces called my thoughts & lacking the picture on the box to sort it all out. When I take initiave I squash the pieces to make them fit.
I am diagnosing myself with the adhd/i variety. That is, no squirmy, angry, bouncing off the walls, but a sort of waking into freefall or fog , until caffine -and some off-the wall-idea has me writing furiously in your trainwreck of an apartment , an art project launches from the kitchen table, or a book opens to the ultimately signifigant summation and I'm glued.