Are there any wealthy ADDrs?
....and if so..exactly what is the formulae to achieve said results?
Well there's that guy they mention in all the books and examples (maybe bc he's the ONLY one) that started that JetBlue airline.My husband has ADHD, suffered horrible in school and floundered for many years(in fact he waited on tables at night and surfed during the day until he was 30 years old) Then he started his own business, is extemely successful and we are very well off (and things keep getting better-knock wood). From where I stand this is how he makes it work for him.
He can only work for himself-he has more energy than three people put together so he can log long hours. His job is physical-although not so much any more. He is an awesome multi tasker and doesn't sit behind a desk, he can plan his day to be moving for most of it. He is very outgoing and loves people-a definite people person (I call him Chatty Bobby and sometimes it makes me crazy but most people like him and love his energy) He mostly just keeps on going like the energizer bunny!
I didn't mean to imply that the surfing and waiting tables was floundering-that was where he wanted to be then and when he retires he'll be doing the same thing. My point was to show you that he didn't start getting serious about his career until he was 30 ish-he is 43 now. He has achieved a lot in a short period of time if you ask me!I have the motivation to start a business, but no ideas, no cash for startup & bad credit from ex's 8(
I still wanna do the Willow thing but just haven't the money right now. I can sell a person a bridge if was tangible property to sell. 8 )
I've read somewhere that Prince Charles, the future king of England has ADHD*. If this is so, then he will probably be the worlds richest ADHDer... the magic formula being to be born with that silver spoon in your mouth - or in his case a diamond encrusted platinum spoon.
*Personally, I'm not convinced he's got ADHD - I think he's just a buffoon.
Mark -
I'll be a wealthy add'r someday. So you might as well count me among those. floofthegoof38490.4190046296All:
There are a lot of actors and personalities that have been reported to have had ADD. Ty PEnnington is the one that stands out to me.
I started my own business almost 6 years ago and the ADD gives me an edge. While working for others, I found my level of dedication, creativity and knowledge of lots of topics helped tremendously. My old boss used to say I knew a little about everything but didn't master anything. He thought it was an insult, I took it as a compliment. The key was that I didn't have to do it all myself but could rely on others to help. When it was up to me, it took severe concentration to get the job done but financial motivation is a powerful tool.
In my own business, the experience in diverse fields made it do'able. I dabbled in marketing, sales, radio, day laborer, retail, management and alot more. All of these jobs gave me the knowledge needed to do it on my own. I also came to the realization that in my own business, I could pass off alot more and concentrate on what I wanted to do.
Don't dwell on all the negative aspects of ADD, make some lemonade!
MM
Cool Floof..make me your secretary. 8)
Let's all go out tonight and get them lotto tickets..cuz if I win I will be sharing with my buddies. :)
1. Famous Athlete, Author & world leader with ADHD ADD Magic Johnson is a world class athlete with attention deficit disorder. Agatha Christie a famous author is said to have ADHD as well. Winston Churchill, English Prime Minister and World Leader is in this company as well. 2. Famous ADHD Scientists & Inventors Here are a few people who changed the world and they had ADHD. Thomas Edison, Albert Einstien, Alexander Graham Bell and Benjamin Franklin. Just think what the world would be like today without thier discoveries? I for one am a proud happy mother of an ADHD, Dyslexic, Dysgraphic child. Sure there are challenges but its all worth it. 3. Famous Business people with ADHD Henry ford had ADHD. Henry Ford invented mass production and started the Ford Motor Company.There was a special on ADD on one of the morning talk shows (Jane Pauley? I don't remember) and they had the dude from JetBlue and mentioned a slew of other famous people that had ADD.
Someone else said it, but the key seems to be to use your "abnormality" to it's advantage. There are many,many things I can do dramatically better than others because of the way my brain works. I wish more therapy and research was dedicated to this rather than just medicating the masses.
MM
Some, if not all oriental cultures give their students aptitude tests and based on the results that will be their career regardless of their interest or not. I am assuming this would prevent any issues arising from ADHD. I guess they would just end up being something below what their mental capacity is.Ha! I took one of those in High School, we all had to. I got all really impractical things...like actress, painter, writer, professional athlete. It was lame...but if I lived in Japan I might be a movie star by now. How sad Yeah, I took one of those too. The three suggestions they gave were dental hygenist, fashion designer and animal trainer. I never did figure out how they came up with those three because they seem entirely unconnected. [QUOTE=Tamaraw1969]...I also always wonder tremendously about the way American culture plays in. Like did such a fast paced environment slowly screw up our chemistry? Just seems interesting that back in my parents day (born in the 50's) nobody complained of these 'symptoms' but now they are all over the board. I would love a study regarding AD/HD in our country and maybe Japan compared to those in more laid back cultures like Brazil or France. If I win the lottery I'll fund research on it.
BTW, I'm not sure there is a corollation between income and ADHD, I make more than my friends who are unaffected, and we all graduated the same year from the same college, with similiar majors...also would be a good study though, as I may be an exception...I usually am. HA!
wickedmeowmer38491.5307175926I was 'raised' in the 50s, and had all the symptoms, but no one knew or recognized they were even 'symptoms.' And the environment/world was very slow in comparison with now. So I, personally, don't think that theory really works. That's the sad thing about all of us who weren't diagnosed until adulthoodthis is in response to the posts about ty pennington 3 pages back because I missed this conversation until now, but he does talk about his ADHD a lot. check out:
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/news/extrainformation/050205_ex_a dhd.html and http://www.keepkidshealthy.com/medicine_cabinet/adhd/adhd_ex perts_on_call.html
[QUOTE=chocoholic]Yeah, I took one of those too. The three suggestions they gave were dental hygenist, fashion designer and animal trainer. I never did figure out how they came up with those three because they seem entirely unconnected. [/QUOTE]
Are you serious? If so that is hysterical!
Chocoholic, you said that you did not know any ADHD people who topped 10 bucks an hour? Com'on!I must have created at least 50 businesses in the past 20 years. Almost all of them were innovative and ground breaking and "suceeded" if i had the right type of support struccture. If i caould delegate, they were fine. Where i worke dwith poeple who could relate ot my life, they destroyed my finances by making me out to be a lazy...etc.
I turned to inventing and now have loads of designs, many ready up to prototype stage and have gathered intereest. University innovation centres, business services, etc have all passed the business plans.
Guess what - i cant get them off the ground ! My family is totally unsupoprtive and refuse to be educated about ADHD. As far as they are concerned, it just another wacky tihng im doing. Despite concrete proof.
I just realised i am very strongly ADHD and suddently at 47 my life begins to make some sense. I am only using managment techniques and as i am strong in PC tech i use pda's calenders etc to try make my life better.
Its not much, but its making an impact.There is pain and suffering everyday as i try to explain to my family, who are not well educated, but in vain. They will keep holding me back until i break through this crazy barrier.
My attitude Our Creator made us like this to allow us to make special contributions to the world.
Love fixes everything, even ADHD
MisterMagic-UK
not wealthy by any means but I think I am on the right track. I am the most unorganized lawyer you will ever meet, but for some reason I got blessed with a mega competitive gene that kicks in when I go against another unsuspecting lawyer. I would be a complete failure if I wasnt competitive...
I make a very decent living (not rich, but i guess it comes to about +/hour) and I'm ADHD up the wazoolah. Struggling right now, but I'll come out of the situation ok (I hope!)
My formula for success: find a medication that helps you, but don't take so much that you become a zombie. Use it as a kick start for your day. Be motivated. DOn't let anyone or anything tell you what you can, or cannot do, especially your ADHD. Take responsibility for your actions, the good and bad, and know that only you can change them. Not your mom, not your dad: you are responsible for your future. And accept nothing less than success. No partial credit. Acheiving goals is REALLY tough, but the real world doesn't pay you for your efforts, just your acheivements.
Of course, without medication (like I am right now due to trying to have kids of my own) throws quite the wrench into the works. BUt I'm trying really, really hard - not succeeding is very frustrating. I'm gonna keep trying. No one else is going to try for me.
galagirl, have you tried supplements in the place of your medicine? I believe you can take DHA supplements, and those helped before I was on meds.it almost seems that making wealth requires a few characteristics i don't enjoy.
1) heightened sense of self-worth.you really have to believe in your ability and absolute right to amass wealth.
2) you have to complete things. either yourself, or have people along with you that can wrap things up and get them together when they need to be done.
3) stability. the kind i'm talking about is the stability to go after it day after day until the project is 'in the can'. (a film reference, not toilet talk.) my experience is that my shifting moods hurt me more than help me. at any random point in any day, i'm ready to take off in a new direction, drop whatever i was doing, just change course for no apparent reason. other than a sense of boredom.
these are just three areas that i believe i struggle with. and i am not wealthy, nor do i think that will change without a miracle.
btw- mozart, while a musical genius, could not manage money at all. he wrote many pieces just to pay his debts. also, he could memorise complex musical pieces after just one exposure. he could see it, or hear it once and reproduce it faithfully.
it might have been to his advantage that his talent was recognised early on, and that his family was in a position to foster it. otherwise, he would have just been another half-crazy, hyperactive, kid that would have grown up to do nothing but be a victim of his impulses..
[QUOTE=galagirl]Thank Heidimarie! Hmm, thats very weird and interesting. I was definitely an early walker. Actually, I was unable to crawl for a time when I was a baby because of a cast on my right leg, to correct a femoral introversion. I went practically straight to walking, before 10 months of age. I knew my ABC's and could sing and talk at 16 months, so my parents just thought I was an early at everything child. I might want to give that book a try. What an incredibly weird coincidence.
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I had casts on my legs, too. I had club feet, or pigeon toes. I wore casts from 3 to 9 months, then a bar on my shoes. So I never really crawled. The exercises in the book are helping me in such a great way. I remember to do so many things I never remembered before, and this is without meds. I hope it will help others, too. The book says you should crawl for 6 months and you have to crawl properly, no dragging a leg for example, to mature the reflex.
I think it is a totally amazing answer to many people's dx of ADHD.
With ADHD you can be wealthy - but damn it takes so much self-control (or someone with you that can handle the control part). I did very well with my corporation for a while handling several thousand kilometers of territory doing computer repair, consulting, training and sales. In my best year I brought home an after-tax income of 177,000 CDN (about 154,000 US).
My big problems? I had a non-Type "A" personality. I didn't have the inner strength to keep up with what needed to be done. I drank Pepto like Pepsi. Also - I was so involved in trying to make my personal relationship work I let everyone else slide.
If I'd had a strong partner who could have kept me on track and a good home life - I could have tripled my yearly income. And made a gastro-enterologist extremely extremely rich on my ulcers.
It can be done - just not by me. Good luck all who try - and hope your stomach is stronger than mine was.
I think Ty has a site at:GlenW - exactly.
I'm a chemical/computer engineer!!! I'm programming chemical processes to make medicine and plastics for people and companies from australia to taiwan to the US. Its hard, hard work. My first few years I had the determination to prove that no one could tell me what i could and could not do. And I was doing great. One of the top engineers in the division. Now without the meds, I find the work soooooo exhausting... staying on track is physically painful... and you can bet that my reputation is gonna start to suffer soon.
my point is, that I can do it, but should I? shouldn't i just change to a career that will be easier on my body? I think i will. If i can gather the courage for a career change, which is scary enough in itself.
Reizende, why don't you get a job in sales? There's lots of money in it if you have that talent -- ad sales, real estate, whatever. Dealerships are always looking for people to sell cars -- the hours are bad, but it's a place where you could get sales experience.Thank Heidimarie! Hmm, thats very weird and interesting. I was definitely an early walker. Actually, I was unable to crawl for a time when I was a baby because of a cast on my right leg, to correct a femoral introversion. I went practically straight to walking, before 10 months of age. I knew my ABC's and could sing and talk at 16 months, so my parents just thought I was an early at everything child. I might want to give that book a try. What an incredibly weird coincidence.
We are actually a little pre-trying. We haven't started trying yet. I'm letting BC get out of my system first. ;-) My doctor agreed that its best to not be taking stimulants (i was on ritalin) when trying to get pregnant. BUt I can't WAIT to be pregnant. I'm dying for a little one. Can't wait. :-)
I tried some green tea this morning and it could be a placebo effect but I feel a little more focused than i have been this week.
The guy who owns Jet Blue has Adult ADD and so does the guy from[QUOTE=EastWest]Oh my God-Ty Pennington-you are right-has he ever come out and said he has ADHD? My husband and Ty could be twins separated at birth! [/QUOTE]
Just FYI about Ty:
Ty Pennington to Host ADHD Program
(21 Sep, 2005) - Contributed by Tom Harrison
Celebrity carpenter Ty Pennington, who was diagnosed with attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder as a child, will host
ADHD Experts on Call on September 22 from 8 am to midnight EDT. The program is sponsored by
Shire Pharmaceuticals Inc.
"I know what's it's like to grow up with ADHD and how important it is for parents, caregivers and patients to have access
to accurate information," said Pennington, who hosts ABC's Extreme Makeover: Home Edition.
"I hope that by ... sharing how support and treatment has made a difference in my life, I'll help other kids and families
understand that there are people out there ready to help them, and that it's possible to live a productive life with ADHD,"
he added.
ADHD experts, English- and Spanish-speaking physicians, school nurses, educators and advocates, will answer calls at
the toll-free telephone hotline, 1-888-ASK-ADHD. In addition, a confidential, one-on-one forum will be available on the
Internet at http://www.adhdexpertsoncall.com/ throughout the day.
Real Handicap
ADHD affects approximately 3 to 7 percent, or approximately two million, school-age children in the US. A neurological
brain disorder, it manifests as a persistent pattern of inattention and/or hyperactivity-impulsivity that is more frequent and
severe than is typically observed in individuals at a comparable age and maturity.
ADHD symptoms can have a profound effect on a child's quality of life and can be serious enough to interfere with
academic accomplishments. Children with ADHD also may have problems maintaining friendships, focusing on sports
and other after-school activities, and relating well within their own families.
A diagnosis requires that these behaviors create a real handicap in at least two areas of life, such as school, home or
social settings.
Untreated ADHD may have long-term adverse effects on academic performance, vocational success and socialemotional
development. It also may heighten risk for drug abuse, antisocial behavior and poor self-esteem, research
suggests. Genetics are thought to play a role. Many children diagnosed with ADHD have a first-degree relative with the
disorder.
There is no cure for ADHD, but physicians, parents, teachers and nurses are finding ways to help children with the
condition adapt to their academic, social and work environments.
Adults with ADHD
ADHD is not confined to children; an estimated 4 percent of the US adult population also may be affected.
Its repercussions may have limited adults from reaching their full academic and occupational potential, and diminished
their satisfaction with themselves and their relationships, according to a recent national survey.
Among its findings:
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- Adults with ADHD are three times more likely to suffer from stress,
depression or other problems with emotion;
- Adults with ADHD are more likely to engage in harmful or antisocial
behaviors, like smoking and drug use;
- Adults with ADHD have less stable relationships than those adults
without ADHD, as reflected in higher rates of divorce and/or separation
(twice the likelihood); and
- Adults with ADHD tend to report lower educational achievement and are
less likely to be high school or college graduates.
- US household income losses due to ADHD total nearly billion each
year.
Where to Turn
The experts participating in ADHD Experts on Call cannot provide specific medical advice for patients or parents, or
recommend a particular course of action, but they will provide helpful information on a variety of related topics:
- How teachers may approach parents if they suspect a student has ADHD;
- How parents can approach teachers about their child's ADHD-related
needs;
- How to manage ADHD as an all-day disorder -- before, during and after
school;
- Proper diagnosis and appropriate treatment of ADHD in children and
adults; and
- Common myths and misconceptions about ADHD.
"While this program doesn't replace a physician visit, parents and adult patients can learn valuable information about
ADHD symptoms, diagnosis, support groups and treatment options that can help them better understand the disorder,"
said Dr. David Goodman, Director of the Adult Attention Deficit Disorder Center of Lutherville, Md.
"Despite the widespread prevalence of ADHD, many parents, patients, and caregivers are confused by conflicting
information about the disorder and don't know where to turn for help," he noted.
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I guess i can consider myself 'wealthy', i have a job that pays six figures, own a number of very profitable apartments and the stockmarket hasn't been bad to me.